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Windows 7: May 12th 2015 Windows Updates Security Bulletin Details

17 May 2015   #81
groze

W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
In a normal update world the updates would either load at 2am or during inactivity
The issue I hate is when I want to shut down and run and there might be a update shield and so I have to wait and see if the update errors out.... causing a unwanted delay in leaving.

The only problem with a 2am update or install my computer is turned off and unplugged.


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17 May 2015   #82
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Agreed I shut down every night too
10 has it's scheduled maintenance crud so it's just another annoyance to deal with
But you can alter the updating in group policy in win-10tp last I checked giving local admin the choice to take control of the when and what to download and install.

Will it work it's anyone's guess at this early stage
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17 May 2015   #83
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

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Sounds like you have this box checked in update settings,
Correct. But it still shows "Important".
This just highlights the confusion. I previously would still go with important/recommended on an equal footing by default and maybe consider optional on merit. My strategy now is make a system image before update and do not just rely on a restore point. This must make the average PC user very frustrated and consider a MAC alternative (not me mind you).
I shut off System Restore a long time ago because I never could get it to work in Win 7. I depend on Imaging instead; it's always been reliable for me. I always make an image before and after installing updates or making any other major changes, such as installing new software or changing settings. It's cheap insurance.
I also stopped using System Restore to revert software/update changes a while ago and just use the Windows Image backup weekly instead, it's never let me down.

The only reason I keep System Restore turned on is it's handy to see which software has changed since the last system image. I can open SR and quickly see the list of what has changed, so I'll know what to update after the restore. But I keep it set to 1% so that it takes up minimal space on my HDD.

I always make an image before installing MS updates.
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17 May 2015   #84
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

I manually install all my updates so knowing which ones need reupdating after an image restore isn't a problem for me. Besides, I have software—Glary Utilities and Avast free—that will tell me what software needs updating after a restore.
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17 May 2015   #85
Callender

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 
Keeping files after rolling back system.

I agree that updating software after rolling back to a system image backup isn't a problem at all. As for System Restore - it's disabled.

My method for comparison of personal files that might be lost when rolling back.

Mount the system image backup. Copy contents of system image backup user folder on system image backup, example: (Drive Letter)\Users\Username to another non-windows drive - on my machine I'd use Drive D.

Restore the image.

Use Copy Changed Files to copy only files that are missing or have changed from (Drive Letter)\Users\Username backup that was created on drive D to current drive (Windows Drive)\Users\Username

May 12th 2015 Windows Updates Security Bulletin Details-copy-changed-files.jpg

Sounds complicated but it isn't once you get used to it!


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17 May 2015   #86
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
I manually install all my updates so knowing which ones need reupdating after an image restore isn't a problem for me. Besides, I have software—Glary Utilities and Avast free—that will tell me what software needs updating after a restore.
Never used Glary, I'll have to take a look at that. As for Avast I find it only has about 10 apps I use in it's list of outdated software, so I never really use it.
Windows SR lists every bit of software that's changed.

I use a different backup system (Clone) for my D: (Data) partition. I don't include anything from that in my system image so never need to restore anything on my Data drive after restoring an image. Plus, it keeps my image sizes and times down.
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17 May 2015   #87
Computer0304

Windows 7 Professional 32-bit/Windows 8 64-bit/Win7 Pro64-bit
 
 

Hmm, I guess I'm different as I don't do entire system images though as I don't have the time to. I only do a backup of my files when I change them as usually I only use the computer to surf the web. Also, I have never had a problem with System Restore yet except with a program that got reinstalled incorrectly through the restore which I fixed.
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17 May 2015   #88
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
I manually install all my updates so knowing which ones need reupdating after an image restore isn't a problem for me. Besides, I have software—Glary Utilities and Avast free—that will tell me what software needs updating after a restore.
Never used Glary, I'll have to take a look at that. As for Avast I find it only has about 10 apps I use in it's list of outdated software, so I never really use it.
Windows SR lists every bit of software that's changed.

I use a different backup system (Clone) for my D: (Data) partition. I don't include anything from that in my system image so never need to restore anything on my Data drive after restoring an image. Plus, it keeps my image sizes and times down.
I used to use Secunia PSI to check for outdated programs but it became as slow as a dead turtle so I gave up on it.
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17 May 2015   #89
DavidE

Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
I used to use Secunia PSI to check for outdated programs but it became as slow as a dead turtle so I gave up on it.
What is slow as a dead turtle? How many minutes, hours ???

PSI is not really a program update checker.
It checks for missing security patches and out of date end of life programs.
I run it occasionally to see what it finds, runs in a matter of minutes for me, on old hardware with OS's installed years ago.

I never tried Glary, I'll have to check that out.

If you want to try the most comprehensive update checker I've found, check out SUMo.
There is a learning curve to use and understand it.
It may report more than you want to know about.
There is a SUMo portable version, so no install needed.
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17 May 2015   #90
Callender

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Ditto on SUMO if you can get the clean version.

Still using the old PSI v2.0 for a check every few weeks. Usually a scan takes a couple of minutes.
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