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Windows 7: Specific upgrade paths to get to all versions of Windows 10

03 Jun 2015   #81
groze

W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
 
 

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I think what GabeAui means you need to upgrade to windows 10 first, then using you windows 10 key you could download the iso image using that recovery website. However, that would leave oem installs out in the cold because from what I read the keys to download a windows 7 image only works for retail and there has been other issues.

However, I could be wrong.
Who said it and where? Documentation please?

I said I think & I could be wrong. Twitter is limited, so GabeAui can't really go into full details.

I read windows 7 post people could only use retail keys to download the Windows 7 retail at Microsoft recovery site, oem keys didn't work to download an iso image but retail keys did but there were issue even with some retail keys. I haven't seen anywhere you can download an iso image for windows 7 if you are using an oem.


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03 Jun 2015   #82
Arc

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What I read is that .... Here are the specific upgrade paths to get to all versions of Windows 10 | Windows Central
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Microsoft will offer a free upgrade to Windows 10 for qualified Windows 7, Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8.1 devices in the first year.
So all the qualified users will be able to upgrade. Once it is upgraded, it will be subject to clean reinstalls via ISO. Nobody said it yet that the OEM users will not be able to perform a clean reinstall using an ISO image. Those are only panic, some attempts to find something that is not said.

OEM users will not be at any loss at all, because OEM license will be continued for lifetime of the device with its all rights.
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03 Jun 2015   #83
ThrashZone

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
For them free will never be free enough.
As a final example of free for those who can't understand the concept of what free is without conditions,
Linux is free and unconditional.
Win-10 is not free it is a upgrade it requires a prior version of windows 7 or 8.1

I don't know why that has been overcomplicated or seen as negative waves it is only fact.
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03 Jun 2015   #84
Arc

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post

Win-10 is not free it is a upgrade it requires a prior version of windows 7 or 8.1
And that is why it is a free upgrade.

How people migrated from XP to Vista?
How people migrated from Vista to 7?
How people migrated from 7 to 8?

By paying for the license of the new OS.

Now there is an avenue to migrate to 10, not by paying for the now OS but by having a qualified previous version.

There will be terms and conditions for the upgrade. Panicking without knowing it is negativity. If the terms and conditions does not suit me, I will not accept the offer. Fair and simple.

Linux is a different story, it is a part of the Open-Source Movement. It will be nothing but stupidity to compare it with a commercial product like windows.
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03 Jun 2015   #85
ThrashZone

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Rationalize it anyway you want too,

If 10 is indeed free why worry about a retail license = because it's not free.

And for the record 8 was free to me but it still requires a previous version to be activated in a traditional manner,
Or use Shawn's .bat file to get around it to install clean.

Yea I didn't want to throw down the Linux card but is the only example of a free os.
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03 Jun 2015   #86
Arc

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If 10 is indeed free why worry about a retail license = because it's not free.
10 is indeed free, my question is how my retail license will be transformed. If the deal does not suit me, I will not accept it. But my 8.1 laptop will definitely be upgraded accepting the offer.

Acceptance or rejection of an offer is on me only. I will wait for it before taking the final decision, but I will not panic.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
And for the record 8 was free to me but it still requires a previous version to be activated in a traditional manner,
Or use Shawn's .bat file to get around it to install clean.
I am not a serious user of 8 or 8.1, did not have/use it before the new laptop came (and I use it for typewriting anywhere and carrying only) so I dont know more of it. But, as far as I know, 8 was never free. Initially there was a cheap upgrade, but it was never free for users. Though 8.1 was a free upgrade for legit 8 users. May be you have some privilege to get 8 for free, which commoners did not have.

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Yea I didn't want to throw down the Linux card but is the only example of a free os.
Linux is Open Source.
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03 Jun 2015   #87
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

You missed Robin's free win-8 pro upgrade raffle then
I got one from her in the vip section a year ago or so,
it sits collecting dust on a flash drive = unused.

Sorry you guys feel I'm being negative I can't change the way your translators are reading my posts unfortunately

It's all good in the end we'll all be happy with what we have I'm sure only of that
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03 Jun 2015   #88
Arc

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
You missed Robin's free win-8 pro upgrade raffle then
I got one from her in the vip section a year ago or so,
it sits collecting dust on a flash drive = unused.
That is a gift from a friend, which is far far away from the concept of a free OS.
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03 Jun 2015   #89
groze

W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
 
 

Thrash I understand what you are saying.


However, people are trying to figure if you upgrade to windows 10 using a windows 7 or 8.1 retail version will you be able to keep the transferable right with windows 10 or do you have to downgrade to windows 7 first then buy a windows 10 retail version. (Others, if I got that wrong please correct me).
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03 Jun 2015   #90
alphanumeric

Windows 10 Education 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by groze View Post
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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by groze View Post
I think what GabeAui means you need to upgrade to windows 10 first, then using you windows 10 key you could download the iso image using that recovery website. However, that would leave oem installs out in the cold because from what I read the keys to download a windows 7 image only works for retail and there has been other issues.

However, I could be wrong.
Who said it and where? Documentation please?

I said I think & I could be wrong. Twitter is limited, so GabeAui can't really go into full details.

I read windows 7 post people could only use retail keys to download the Windows 7 retail at Microsoft recovery site, oem keys didn't work to download an iso image but retail keys did but there were issue even with some retail keys. I haven't seen anywhere you can download an iso image for windows 7 if you are using an oem.
On the other side of the coin here, Create installation media for Windows 8.1 - Windows Help you can get 8.1 install media without having to enter any product code. It will use Windows 8.0 and 8.1 keys even OEM embedded keys. Microsoft could easily set one up like this for Windows 10.
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