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Windows 7: Firefox is blocking Flash by default

15 Jul 2015   #11
BlueGuy

W7 Ultimate 32-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by OvenMaster View Post
Flash update 18.0.0.209 seems to have fixed the issues for me. Now all Flash content plays flawlessly in Firefox without requiring any additional steps.


...... 2 days ago I was wondering why there was more than one flash update in a week, all the portable browsers I use were blocking the older copies as they 'aged'.


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15 Jul 2015   #12
RoasterMen

Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
 
 

Flash Player's been bugging me off. Can't Mozzila create their own instead? Flash Player is considered dead.
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15 Jul 2015   #13
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 
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It would be nice if it would just go away.

The trouble is, it is really easy to create animated content in Flash.
Unfortunately Flash projects are often a menace once they are deployed.

I've just finished an Adobe Edge module in my Web Design course.
It was a lot more difficult to create an entire website using Edge than using Flash.
Of course once I was almost finished the site, I realised I should have used a completely different approach.

Edge Tip
Build your basic website the normal way (I use Notepad++).
Build any fancy items (e.g. media players, slideshows, etc.) as individual components and then add them to the appropriate web pages.
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16 Jul 2015   #14
Diosoth

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by RoasterMen View Post
Flash Player's been bugging me off. Can't Mozzila create their own instead? Flash Player is considered dead.
How so? Lots of sites still use it. I think disabling Flash is going to be annoying for a lot of people since places like eBay's checkout system require it. And while I'm aware Unity has sort of overtaken it for browser game creation, it's mostly being wasted on simple junk like idle games that do not warrant having such a resource hog of an engine. I also think it'll take a lo tof work to replace it, since the only effective way would be for the new thing to support the old stuff. You won't get the entire internet to just switch to something new overnight, and how many companies are going to want to spend the money needed to overhaul their sites?

Not to mention that a lot of less-savvy types will probably just see Firefox being annoying by doing this and switch browsers to something that isn't shutting off their plugins.

As for Java... one word for why that's still around... Minecraft. The game prints money and keeps selling, you can blame that on Java being so widespread, and probably not updated too often on user's PCs so logn as their game runs fine. Not that I can much recall seeing it used in browsers much anymore since Flash came along.
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17 Jul 2015   #15
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Pretty odd eBay would require flash just for checkout :/
Just another good reason not to use eBay as far as I can tell

It is ironic now browsers are blocking flash
It took years for M$ to support flash starting with ie11
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18 Jul 2015   #16
HerrKaLeun

W7 Pro 64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Diosoth View Post
As for Java... one word for why that's still around... Minecraft. The game prints money and keeps selling, you can blame that on Java being so widespread, and probably not updated too often on
Maybe you are referring to private use only. but Java is used all over the place where you get a browser interface (or for device firmware). for example at my work the(server based - browser accessed) time keeping is JAVA based, all modern building automation systems (and their access via browser) are JAVA based. If JAVA disappeared, you probably would not have many powerplants or any other things running.

JAVA usually are good in updating, most problem is see are with the specific software and lack of quality control on vendor side. Can't blame JAVA for that.

I'm not an IT person, so i may just be talking out of my ass. But i know in the corporate word not having JAVA on your PC would prevent you from doing many things you take for granted.

Privately, you could chose to be without JAVA and just don't go to websites that use it. But at work you see how "eveywhere" JAVA is.

for Flash: I just de-installed all flash and just don't use websites that have it. Haven't come across one that required it. If i come across an important site, i may reconsider. Most feates that flashprovided are annoying an silly anyway. I think Apple didn't use Flash because they found their own way to make 100 fart noise apps, which are equally as useful as what i see was provided with Flash.
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18 Jul 2015   #17
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

I believe we're say Oracle is the problem not java script in general
Oracle has been on a quarterly update schedule for sometime and that's one of the main problems
Too many unfixed exploits for the stand alone Oracle platform Toolkit/............ which most people don't need.
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19 Jul 2015   #18
margrave

Size 12
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by RoasterMen View Post
Flash Player's been bugging me off. Can't Mozzila create their own instead? Flash Player is considered dead.
No, Mozilla cannot create their own.

Flash is more than just a program or a plugin. It's a widely use tool that took years to get to where it is. A Mozilla replacement, no matter how good, would initially have no market penetration. The uptake would take years. That's not something that Mozilla is positioned to do.

If Mozilla wants to do something (and who know whether), they could quarantine Flash in a sandbox to halt the security issue. Deny Flash access to everything except for its own rendering.
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19 Jul 2015   #19
RoasterMen

Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by margrave View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by RoasterMen View Post
Flash Player's been bugging me off. Can't Mozzila create their own instead? Flash Player is considered dead.
No, Mozilla cannot create their own.

Flash is more than just a program or a plugin. It's a widely use tool that took years to get to where it is. A Mozilla replacement, no matter how good, would initially have no market penetration. The uptake would take years. That's not something that Mozilla is positioned to do.

If Mozilla wants to do something (and who know whether), they could quarantine Flash in a sandbox to halt the security issue. Deny Flash access to everything except for its own rendering.
It can be gone as easy as pie of Oracle doesn't give a f*** about the bugs.
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19 Jul 2015   #20
jamis

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by OvenMaster View Post
Flash update 18.0.0.209 seems to have fixed the issues for me. Now all Flash content plays flawlessly in Firefox without requiring any additional steps.
Not for me. Flash v18.0.0.209 installed on 07/14/2015 just crashes when an attempt to use it in FF v39.

Update: Uninstalled Flash and re-installed v18.00.209 and it works fine in FF v39. Must have been a bad update.
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