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Windows 7: Windows 10 upgrades reportedly appearing as mandatory for some users

17 Oct 2015   #11
jamis

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by plodr View Post
I hid some of those files and I wrote down what was hidden on September 15th. On October 15th when I checked my list had gone down by 3. I spent last night looking through optional updates and two of the ones, specificallyKB2952664 and KB3035583 had been moved from hidden to optional!
I did not make the changes.
Don't assume that everyone who had this happen is a clueless computer user. MS is changing settings on computers.

Note here Microsoft antagonizes users with intrusive new Windows 10 upgrade tactics | Computerworld
an item that appears in optional was selected by Windows Update. It was not selected by the computer owner.
I also noted that those two updates have reappeared on the update list even though I had hidden them. This has happened more than once. I assume that MS has been reissuing them, either because there were changes to them, or they are trying to slip them past the consumer. However, I just keep hiding them and have never updated them. I have had several instances where the update settings have been mysteriously changed on my PCs, both XP Pro and W7 HP, without my input.


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17 Oct 2015   #12
meebers

Windows 7 Professional X64 Service Pack 1
 
 

I have found myself in the position of not being able to install any W7 updates at all. Currently 19 important and 6 optionals. When I select install, it reverts back to showing me the updates again. I want to hold off the change to W10 for another 6 months. I already have 1 computer on 10240 RTM and one on the current insider edition.

QUESTION: How can I get my W7 machine to install updates again?? Several others have reported the same issue.? Tx

On my W8.1 machine, I have this in the restore section of win updates


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17 Oct 2015   #13
Indianatone

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate and numerous virtual machines
 
 

I just love the way that some users just dismiss the possibility of the user being forced into installing Windows 10. I can tell you I had the registry set to NOT Upgrade on my 4 main machines and also all the offending updates removed prior to this Patch Tuesday and there was no sign of Windows 10 on any of my machines except in the Virtual Machines I have been testing. At about 10 PM Tuesday decided it was time to go to bed and I thought I'll shut my machines down as I had not had chance to look up the updates for this Patch Session. On my 4 main machines the option was INSTALL WINDOWS 10 Get Started on Windows Update or shut down and install updates.
So I can tell you as a fact my settings were hijacked, reset and numerous Windows 10 updates were installed without my knowledge. In fact 3 of the machines had also downloaded Windows 10 and I have never reserved a copy. To me this was the last straw for Microsoft and I am out. They won't care but family and friends will no longer get support from me on Windows issues as I am done. I am migrating to Mint. It is already on my laptop and I'll be setting it up later on my main machines over the holidays to run Linux Mint and Windows in a secure virtual machine. I want no part of Microsoft's Windows Service. They are my machines and I decide what goes on them and when. Also I have nothing to hide so if the FBI NSA or whomever what to trawl through my machines go ahead, just ask me first.
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17 Oct 2015   #14
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Yep that's whack :/
I haven't loaded the last round yet might go the other direction and pretend it's 2020 already
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17 Oct 2015   #15
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

From post #13
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Also I have nothing to hide so if the FBI NSA or whomever what to trawl through my machines go ahead, just ask me first.
Sounds like me.
I will go one better.
Just knock on my door and I will let the agencies in and make fresh coffee. Let them sneak and peak all they want on my systems. They will get bored before the coffee runs out. They can also read all 20 or 30 emails I get a year if they care to. Just ask.
If I have something to hide it's hid so well I don't know where or what it is.
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17 Oct 2015   #16
scr

1. Windows 7 Home Premium sp1 - 64bit 2. Windows 7 Pro sp1 - 64bit
 
 

I don't have anything to hide either. If I did a computer would be the last place I would hide it.
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17 Oct 2015   #17
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

You are right scr.
A computer is a piss poor place to hide anything.
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17 Oct 2015   #18
pokeefe0001

Windows 7 x64 Pro
 
 

For a long time I was allowing the GWX maintenance to install, but then manually disabled the GWX trigger tasks. But an October re-re-re-release of KB3035583 apparently change the way GWX and its triggers work. After installing it I could find no way to disable the GWX triggers, and Windows Update no longer showed the regular list of Win7 maintenance - only the option to upgrade to Win10. I assume that was what the original poster mentioned. A System Restore took care of that, but now I know to be doubly careful when installing Window maintenance.

As mentioned earlier in this thread (among many other threads), the vast majority of Windows users don't care about computers, don't think they need to care, and don't have the background to understand even if they did care. The computer is a tool that allows them to do what is important to them. And it may not be a problem to them if the tool suddenly becomes Windows 10. (Except, of course, the upgrade isn't "sudden".)

But a small minority of Windows users - those on this forum, for instance - do care about the operating system on our computers, and don't like Microsoft trying to shove Win10 on us. Too bad Microsoft doesn't care what we think.
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17 Oct 2015   #19
UsernameIssues

W7 Pro SP1 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Indianatone View Post
I can tell you I had the registry set to NOT Upgrade...
I would be interested to know what registry setting(s) you have set.
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17 Oct 2015   #20
scr

1. Windows 7 Home Premium sp1 - 64bit 2. Windows 7 Pro sp1 - 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pokeefe0001 View Post
For a long time I was allowing the GWX maintenance to install, but then manually disabled the GWX trigger tasks. But an October re-re-re-release of KB3035583 apparently change the way GWX and its triggers work. After installing it I could find no way to disable the GWX triggers, and Windows Update no longer showed the regular list of Win7 maintenance - only the option to upgrade to Win10. I assume that was what the original poster mentioned. A System Restore took care of that, but now I know to be doubly careful when installing Window maintenance.

As mentioned earlier in this thread (among many other threads), the vast majority of Windows users don't care about computers, don't think they need to care, and don't have the background to understand even if they did care. The computer is a tool that allows them to do what is important to them. And it may not be a problem to them if the tool suddenly becomes Windows 10. (Except, of course, the upgrade isn't "sudden".)

But a small minority of Windows users - those on this forum, for instance - do care about the operating system on our computers, and don't like Microsoft trying to shove Win10 on us. Too bad Microsoft doesn't care what we think.
The only time Microsoft is interested in what their users think is when the stockholders are thinking they aren't happy with the last dividend check they received. As long as the cha ching of the income is ringing loud they could care less. I'm still not clear as to how their making money on 10 but you can safely bet they are or soon will be.
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