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Windows 7: Windows 10 upgrades reportedly appearing as mandatory for some users

16 Oct 2015   #1
Borg 386

Win 7 32 Home Premium, Win 7 64 Pro, Win 8.1, Win 10
 
 
Windows 10 upgrades reportedly appearing as mandatory for some users

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Microsoft is reportedly making it harder for Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 users to avoid the upgrade to Windows 10.

Some users now claim that they no longer see an option in the Control Panel to install updates to their current version of Windows. Instead, a message says that the “upgrade to Windows 10 is ready,” and prompts users to “restart your PC to begin the installation.” Another user claims to have seen a countdown timer for installing Windows 10, with an option to reschedule but no way to call off the upgrade entirely.
Windows 10 upgrades reportedly appearing as mandatory for some users | PCWorld


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16 Oct 2015   #2
NoelDP

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Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)/Win10
 
 

It's amazing how many people that use computers can't/won't read what's in front of them
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16 Oct 2015   #3
jamis

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit SP1
 
 

I wonder how many of these people that are reporting these two issues have installed any/all of the W10 preparation updates? Conversely, has anyone that has not installed any of the W10 prep updates seen either of these two messages? FWIW, I have hidden all of the W10 prep updates and I have not seen either of these messages.
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16 Oct 2015   #4
Alejandro85

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by NoelDP View Post
It's amazing how many people that use computers can't/won't read what's in front of them
There is nothing to read, MS succeed in disguising the GWX virus and related things within the normal updates, not informing the user of what it really does. The fact that users normally used to trust Windows Update catched many people by surprise, after realizing that MS exploited that to distribute malware when it must only ship OS patches.
In no place it says something like "This program will offer a Windows 10 upgrade. Do you want to install it?".

That said, there is a lot of truth in that............ users don't read
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16 Oct 2015   #5
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

I know it's hard to believe that most users of computers don't read this forum or forums like this one. They really don't know what is going on and I believe they don't want to know.

They use auto Updates for everything. The system accepts every update of everything and they are happy campers until now.

Auto Updates and lack of knowledge of the user is exactly what Microsoft is depending on to push W-10.

Remember most users don't study, research, investigate ect. anything about their system.

Most of the computers users that I personally meet ask me question on how I can help them. My first question is; what operating system is installed.
Answer: They don't know.
How in the hell do you use a computer for over a year and don't know such things?
Answer: I don't know.

The fact of most users not wanting to learn is exactly what Microsoft likes.
They are easy pickings for infections, scammers and Microsoft.
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17 Oct 2015   #6
NoelDP

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)/Win10
 
 

That said - MS did screw up, and have admitted it. The W10 Update is an Optional one - but some moron decided to default it to being ticked for install in one of the updates!

This has apparently now been changed
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17 Oct 2015   #7
4wd

W7, W8.1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
Auto Updates and lack of knowledge of the user is exactly what Microsoft is depending on to push W-10.

The fact of most users not wanting to learn is exactly what Microsoft likes.
They are easy pickings for infections, scammers and Microsoft.
Excellent.
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17 Oct 2015   #8
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

I think one of the problems is, their is no cure for moronship.
Their seem to be many creating and distributing operating system and users of operating systems.
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17 Oct 2015   #9
scr

1. Windows 7 Home Premium sp1 - 64bit 2. Windows 7 Pro sp1 - 64bit
 
 

It's been my experience that the greater majority of users look at their computers and it's operation the same way they look at their refrigerator or TV. They just want it to work and have no interest in learning how or why it works. The concept that neither the refrigerator or TV has their personal and financial data in them escapes most people.

I sort of understand this concept. I have very little knowledge of how my truck works I just want it to work. I have no interest in learning how a diesel motor works either. I check what I know how to check and call someone when it's broken.

Fortunately for me I have always had a curiosity about computers. However, until I completely understood the importance of backups I must admit I was I afraid I would change something and break my computer. I still break it but disk images and this forum are the things that sets me free of that fear.
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17 Oct 2015   #10
plodr

Home Premium and Pro 32 bit and 64 bit (4 computers)
 
 

I hid some of those files and I wrote down what was hidden on September 15th. On October 15th when I checked my list had gone down by 3. I spent last night looking through optional updates and two of the ones, specificallyKB2952664 and KB3035583 had been moved from hidden to optional!
I did not make the changes.
Don't assume that everyone who had this happen is a clueless computer user. MS is changing settings on computers.

Note here Microsoft antagonizes users with intrusive new Windows 10 upgrade tactics | Computerworld
an item that appears in optional was selected by Windows Update. It was not selected by the computer owner.
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