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Windows 7: Microsoft sets stage for massive Windows 10 upgrade strategy

09 Dec 2015   #31
Wandering one

Win7 sp1 Pro 64bit / XP sp2 Pro (games only)
 
 

I have always had updates set to OFF and/or NEVER CHECK. This was originally done because I want to know before something is done to MY (not M$'s) computer, also makes it easier as am always on WIFI. I go once a week or so to 'all programs / update' and click on the 'check for updates' button and that gives a current list of all available updates. Have never been more than 3 or 4 days late for an update and that in itself is a very rare occasion.
As for setting to 'notify and let me download' I think somewhere on the EULA it says that if M$ thinks that you should have an update it will be downloaded and installed without further notice.

As a side note to this thread, has anyone noticed the 'most users on 7 Forum'? Looks like coffee time the morning after that 10 was dumped on a lot of unsuspecting computers.


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10 Dec 2015   #32
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by groze View Post
Can you watch Netflix, and Amazon video on Linux?
I'm not a subscriber, so I don't think that I've ever gone to those sites in Windows or Linux.
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10 Dec 2015   #33
Borg 386

Win 7 32 Home Premium, Win 7 64 Pro, Win 8.1, Win 10
 
 

I have some speculation about why they are being so pushy about everyone getting 10. Be aware, it's just speculation, but here's my take.

Right now the big trend is grabbing everyone's personal data so they know peoples habits, likes, dislikes, what they buy & other things about them. How much of the world uses Windows systems? 95% I believe, give or take a few percent points. Given that MS can now acquire this data on people, they have the largest data collection avenue open to them, more then any other company.

Given that people will pay big $$$$ to get this data, I would wager that with a database as large as this, MS will never have to worry about selling another OS. The main money will be made from the continuous updates to personal data that they are collecting. Not just a one time collection of personal data, but a continuous update of personal data that changes with the individual through the years.

It's only a thought, but it seems to me they just hit the jackpot for selling personal data. There could be another underlying cause or 2 why the big push is on. More then likely there is.
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10 Dec 2015   #34
scr

1. Windows 7 Home Premium sp1 - 64bit 2. Windows 7 Pro sp1 - 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Borg 386 View Post
I have some speculation about why they are being so pushy about everyone getting 10. Be aware, it's just speculation, but here's my take.

Right now the big trend is grabbing everyone's personal data so they know peoples habits, likes, dislikes, what they buy & other things about them. How much of the world uses Windows systems? 95% I believe, give or take a few percent points. Given that MS can now acquire this data on people, they have the largest data collection avenue open to them, more then any other company.

Given that people will pay big $$$$ to get this data, I would wager that with a database as large as this, MS will never have to worry about selling another OS. The main money will be made from the continuous updates to personal data that they are collecting. Not just a one time collection of personal data, but a continuous update of personal data that changes with the individual through the years.

It's only a thought, but it seems to me they just hit the jackpot for selling personal data. There could be another underlying cause or 2 why the big push is on. More then likely there is.

Not to put my tin foil hat back on but.. That's what I figured it was all along. MS never has and never will give anything away for free. The objective has always been the "data" and it's value. In my opinion MS has become a massive data miner and will rent that data out to the highest bidder. More data the higher the rent. Therefore the big push to Win 10 in the most unprecedented manner ever known. MS has put all it's eggs in the 10 data basket. If Win10 goes the route of 8 MS is toast. If it's not the data then there is something else we don't know about. yet.

I am seriously considering not doing any more MS updates and leaning more in that direction every month. I have always had automatic updates off and have updated manually. I realize that there is a risk involved but the question is which risk is greater MS or the bad guys. I'm not sure there's a difference between the two any more.

Make anything shiny enough and people will go for it.
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10 Dec 2015   #35
groze

W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
 
 

Scr,
I wouldn't go that far yet. I was going to install KB971033. I decided against it. The reason it seems to stop gwx or windows 10 from downloading but haven't been able to confirm this totally. My windows 7 home partition is an oemslp from dell. I did a clean install of windows 7 sp1 using the disk dell sent me. As I said in another post, one of the windows 7 updates prevents KB971033 from installing. If I remove that one update KB971033 will install. I don't know if removing or not installing KB971033 will work on windows 7 system that require you to activate. Windows 7 OEMSLP systems are pre-activated.

Here is what I have hidden


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10 Dec 2015   #36
scr

1. Windows 7 Home Premium sp1 - 64bit 2. Windows 7 Pro sp1 - 64bit
 
 

Groze, Thanks for the info. I haven't reached the point of no updates yet but as I said I'm getting closer. So far I've been able to keep 10 off both my systems which are HP's minus the HP stuff. I created an image after I got all the HP stuff off and updated Windows so I have a pretty clean backup.

KB971033 Is installed from back in June which is when I did all the updates as I purchased this computer in late May so I could get Win 7 Pro but decided to do a factory restore in June to create the image I spoke of. While I have given thought to a reinstall from a Win 7 DVD I'm not sure I'll do it yet. I'm going to get a SSD for each machine but that is at least 5 months down the road. I'm in the middle of a major life style change right now and on hold till spring.
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11 Dec 2015   #37
OvenMaster

Win7 Pro 32bit; Zorin OS 9 Core (in VM)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Borg 386 View Post
I have some speculation about why they are being so pushy about everyone getting 10. Be aware, it's just speculation, but here's my take.

Right now the big trend is grabbing everyone's personal data so they know peoples habits, likes, dislikes, what they buy & other things about them. How much of the world uses Windows systems? 95% I believe, give or take a few percent points. Given that MS can now acquire this data on people, they have the largest data collection avenue open to them, more then any other company.

Given that people will pay big $$$$ to get this data, I would wager that with a database as large as this, MS will never have to worry about selling another OS. The main money will be made from the continuous updates to personal data that they are collecting. Not just a one time collection of personal data, but a continuous update of personal data that changes with the individual through the years.

It's only a thought, but it seems to me they just hit the jackpot for selling personal data. There could be another underlying cause or 2 why the big push is on. More then likely there is.
I say it's three-letter government agencies. Read the latest flaps about wanting to ban encryption on various computer news sites. Uncle Sam wants you(r information) and this is by far the easiest way to get it.
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11 Dec 2015   #38
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Uncle Sam doesn't want encryption for a reason along with other countries.


1. Terrorist would use encryption and it would make it impossible to catch them in a timely fashion.
Finding this information after the shootings and or bombings from the perpetrators computers really doesn't help.

2. Smugglers of guns, drugs, chemicals, people, and many other things would also use encryption to hide their activities.

3. Those with ill-gotten money from illegal activates would also use encryption to hide the movement of their money. One way of catching the bad guys is following the money.

Like most things in life, it's like a playing card; their is two sides.

When companies monitor my internet use then I get unwanted email, phone calls and junk snail mail.
When the government monitor my internet use I get no such things.
They just leave me alone.

For those that don't want anybody or anything to monitor their use of the internet, your plum slick out of luck as long as you use the internet.
At this point and time in the computer world it's not a good or bad thing. It's just a fact that you and I will be watched on the internet.
I'm thinking that 99.9% of us don't really need encryption. I can't think of anything in my personal life I ever needed to encrypt.
I not a criminal and I'm not a terrorist and I still believe in one woman at a time so I have no need to encrypt.
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11 Dec 2015   #39
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
Uncle Sam doesn't want encryption for a reason along with other countries.


1. Terrorist would use encryption and it would make it impossible to catch them in a timely fashion.
Finding this information after the shootings and or bombings from the perpetrators computers really doesn't help.

2. Smugglers of guns, drugs, chemicals, people, and many other things would also use encryption to hide their activities.

3. Those with ill-gotten money from illegal activates would also use encryption to hide the movement of their money. One way of catching the bad guys is following the money.

Like most things in life, it's like a playing card; their is two sides.

When companies monitor my internet use then I get unwanted email, phone calls and junk snail mail.
When the government monitor my internet use I get no such things.
They just leave me alone.

For those that don't want anybody or anything to monitor their use of the internet, your plum slick out of luck as long as you use the internet.
At this point and time in the computer world it's not a good or bad thing. It's just a fact that you and I will be watched on the internet.
I'm thinking that 99.9% of us don't really need encryption. I can't think of anything in my personal life I ever needed to encrypt.
I not a criminal and I'm not a terrorist and I still believe in one woman at a time so I have no need to encrypt.
I would not want my personal finances to be viewed by every Tom, Dick, and Hacker. It would be a good way for my money to go bye-bye faster than it already does. Encryption and privacy does have its place, no matter how innocent one may be.
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11 Dec 2015   #40
Iforgot

Win7 64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Borg 386 View Post
I have some speculation about why they are being so pushy about everyone getting 10. Be aware, it's just speculation, but here's my take.

Right now the big trend is grabbing everyone's personal data so they know peoples habits, likes, dislikes, what they buy & other things about them. How much of the world uses Windows systems? 95% I believe, give or take a few percent points. Given that MS can now acquire this data on people, they have the largest data collection avenue open to them, more then any other company.

Given that people will pay big $$$$ to get this data, I would wager that with a database as large as this, MS will never have to worry about selling another OS. The main money will be made from the continuous updates to personal data that they are collecting. Not just a one time collection of personal data, but a continuous update of personal data that changes with the individual through the years.

It's only a thought, but it seems to me they just hit the jackpot for selling personal data. There could be another underlying cause or 2 why the big push is on. More then likely there is.
This does seem an outlook at what M$ maybe looking into..

Plus add their own search site "Bing".......

Data is worth a lot, just look at google profits..

With a possible user coverage that M$ has............ Think about it!!!

Just my POV.
Allan

As for encryption...
Personal info is one thing but the info for searches, interests, views is another.....
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