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Windows 7: When it comes to Windows 10 privacy, don't trust amateur analysts

11 Feb 2016   #1
z3r010

 
When it comes to Windows 10 privacy, don't trust amateur analysts

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Another day, another sensational report from Forbes. Oh my goodness, is Windows 10 really "phoning home" thousands of times a day? Nope. in fact, anyone who has even a basic understanding of how networks work should cringe at this shoddy report.

Gordon F. Kelly of Forbes is at it again, whipping up a frenzy over Windows 10. This time he claims to have found SHOCKING EVIDENCE that Microsoft's telemetry is collecting STAGGERING amounts of data from Windows 10 users.
Read more:- When it comes to Windows 10 privacy, don't trust amateur analysts | ZDNet


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11 Feb 2016   #2
Golden
Microsoft MVP

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Now that is a well written and factual article, which is a welcome change from all the horse shite that has been posted about W10 lately.
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11 Feb 2016   #3
z3r010

 

Tbh after reading that article by Gordon F. Kelly of Forbes yesterday, it was that bad I wondered if Gordon F. Kelly was the new pen name for Randall C. Kennedy.
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11 Feb 2016   #4
Golden
Microsoft MVP

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I'm looking forward to CheesusCrusts supporters posting here soon.....and if only he spells his name correctly, I'll ask for him to be touched by His Noodley Appendage.
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11 Feb 2016   #5
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Personally I don't care for either site
10 is what it is no more or less.
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11 Feb 2016   #6
Clairvaux

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (OEM)
 
 

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And of course, those connections are not all about telemetry. The most important one is the Software Licensing Service, which checks the state of Windows activation periodically. By dropping those connections, Mr. Crust is not allowing those activation and validation checks to complete. Windows gets very cranky when that happens, which could explain why there were more than 1,700 connection attempts to a handful of addresses in a single range of IP addresses managed by Microsoft.
And this is supposed to be reassuring ? Microsoft checks 1 700 times in 30 hours (or 8) if your copy of Windows is legit, and we are supposed to think this is all fine and dandy ?

It's all right for Ed Bott to find holes in Crust's experiment and expose them, but what about attempting to replicate this experiment without the alleged (and quite possible) flaws ?

Ed Bott is a nice chap and he does tremendously helpful work, but he does have a history of towing Microsoft's line. I remember when he insisted, in an exchange with 7 Forums contributor Kari and others, that moving Users folder on D: drive was unsupported and foolish and dangerous because Microsoft Said So. It's been a long time now, an untold number of people have done just that with no trouble at all (me included), and even the "Microsoft said so" part is quite debatable.
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11 Feb 2016   #7
Painter

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It is just a matter of two people who write tech articles for a living who have a particular bias. Neither produced their OWN test results. One supported a 3rd party contributor and the other was skeptical. When these writers can produce info from a reputable source or provide their own test scenarios, I think it is best to just regard their position as merely an opinion.
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11 Feb 2016   #8
indianacarnie

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Golden View Post
Now that is a well written and factual article, which is a welcome change from all the horse shite that has been posted about W10 lately.
Agreed!
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11 Feb 2016   #9
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

I'm a silly simple person.

I read such things and that is about it. Because I really don't know what is sent back to Microsoft and why.
I'm think that Microsoft monitors many things that the normal user either doesn't know how to or doesn't want to know how to monitor.

Just a guess on my part but I think most user just want everything Automatic. Just let Microsoft check things and update them if need be.
To me that is today's mass market. That mass market is what Microsoft is reaching out to. It works for Apple.

I'm guessing again but I believe that the members that so far have posted in this thread like to know what is going on with their computer and choose what and when something happens. Me and those post above are not the masses. Their will be billions of people using W-10 if things go like Microsoft want them to. Another guess; most of them don't care or even want to know what Microsoft or other companies are doing in their systems.
I try to keep in clear in my head, all 3 brain cells, why would Microsoft want to monitor a billion plus systems.

1. To keep things updated properly. Sure could be.
2. To check for security problems. Yes that could also be.
3. To monitor where a user goes on the internet. Possibly.
4. To use this information for marketing reasons. Possible. Many apps do such things if allowed.
5. To steal important data. I don't think so. In fact I very much doubt Microsoft at this date would do such a thing.

The facts as I see them are simple also. Most users don't know and don't care what Microsoft does or doesn't do as long as their computer work.
If they don't have to work to keep their system working is fine with the masses.
Microsoft is marketing to billions of user that don't care and not to people like me who do care what happens and when to their computers.

I have taken my steel pot off my head and put it in my lap. So kick me if you have to.
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11 Feb 2016   #10
Clairvaux

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (OEM)
 
 

This is not only about Windows 10 or even Microsoft. It's a worrying general trend. Consider "intelligent" meters mandated by electricity providers. They allow the utility company (which in many places is state-owned) to monitor what you're doing at home. Add to this the parallel trend of using your electricity bill as a tax vehicule. You get the drift... possibilities are endless. Be sure that many people are looking into them right now.
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