Windows 10 has overtaken XP

ThrashZone said:

BorisTheAnimal said:

ThrashZone said:

Yea I wonder if Microsoft will ever publish how many 7 keys they deactivated so far without the people being able to use 10.
I don't believe 10 was ever forced
People are naturally curious and this is the click click next generation :)

Sure it became forced, updates that you "have" to install and stuff like that, in the beginning yar they weren't that pushy with W10 but now it looks like you can't even turn a computer on without a popup saying you are getting an update whether you want to update or not.

Nothing except for kb3112343 has been classified as Important yet,
So "forced" is just a misunderstanding of the windows update settings options
If it were forced we would all be on win-10 and SevenForums would be closed

I guess the "forced" term is in one sense aimed at those who have updates on automatic, got told in due course (or decided for themselves) that it was time for the upgrade, then when they tried to revert to their previous version within the permitted timeframe found the rollback didn't work.

In another sense, of course, it's just a way of describing the pressure MS is putting users under to make the upgrade, as in "Do you want to upgrade? Answer "Now" or "On shutdown"."

Here's something I've been wondering about lately - do (or should it be 'can'?) people with Windows 10 actually do anything 'normal' with their computers? You know - like playing games, watching DVD's or BluRays, doing emails, surfing the Web, etc. - just the usual stuff that people have been doing with computers for years.

Or, do they spend most of their time trying to sort out problems - like this latest one:

Windows 10 forced update KB 3135173 changes browser and other defaults | InfoWorld

Just browsing the Windows 10 forums, it seems to like most people with Windows 10 are spending a lot of time dealing with 'bugs' - ones that came with Windows 10 and new ones like in the link above.

And, I'm wondering whether that really is another MS mistake, like the 'mistake' a few months back where some people suddenly woke up one morning and found W10 installed on their computers supposedly without any action whatsoever on their part.

The more cynical among us were probably thinking that someone at MS 'jumped the gun' there with the plan to get W10 onto as many computers as they can. Maybe it was just a test? With MS now supposed to be pushing W10 onto anyone with W7 or 8.1 with automatic updates turned on one could certainly be excused for believing it was a test.

I can understand the insiders wanting to play with new builds of W10 as soon as they become available, they obviously enjoy what they're doing and it does help MS iron out some the many bugs that are always present in any new operating system.

But, I'm sure most 'normal' users just want to use their PC's for all of the usual daily things they like to do and they don't want to spend large amounts of time dealing with bugs. Especially ones that seem to pop up every time there's a major update for W10.

CarlSD said:

Here's something I've been wondering about lately - do (or should it be 'can'?) people with Windows 10 actually do anything 'normal' with their computers? You know - like playing games, watching DVD's or BluRays, doing emails, surfing the Web, etc. - just the usual stuff that people have been doing with computers for years.

Or, do they spend most of their time trying to sort out problems - like this latest one:

Windows 10 forced update KB 3135173 changes browser and other defaults | InfoWorld
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Based on the people that I support, normal equals not changing any settings or apps. This update might not be noticed by them. If they want to watch a DVD or Blu-ray, they use one of their TVs. I can't remember the last DVD I watched on a computer. We must live in different worlds.

I'm not defending MS's updates. In fact, it is those very updates that drove me to tell those that I support to buy Apple products. Then they can live with security flaws for years before they are patched. It becomes a choice between the lesser of two evils: risk infections or risk applying patches.