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Windows 7: Windows 10 subscriptions aren't happening. Here's why.

18 Feb 2016   #1
Golden
Microsoft MVP

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Windows 10 subscriptions aren't happening. Here's why.

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One of the most persistent questions I hear about Windows 10 involves what happens when the free upgrade offer ends. Is Microsoft going to start charging subscription fees? After a close look at the company's financials, I'm convinced the answer is an emphatic no.
Windows 10 subscriptions aren't happening. Here's why | ZDNet


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19 Feb 2016   #2
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 

The trouble is MS can change the EULA anytime it wants.

In a couple of years time, "bean counters" and shareholders will start asking, "why is MS voluntarily giving up billions of dollars in revenue?"
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19 Feb 2016   #3
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

They already have trouble giving it away. Who do you think would subscribe.
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19 Feb 2016   #4
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 

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They already have trouble giving it away. Who do you think would subscribe.
Personally I can't see why anyone would use Facebook, but apparently they have a humungous number of users.

Once you can't get anything but W10 (and you have to use Windows) what choice will a person have but to "cough up" the fee?
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19 Feb 2016   #5
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

There are always alternatives. Windows does not own the world. And what does that have to do with facebook.
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19 Feb 2016   #6
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Now Microsoft and their buddies what us to believe that Microsoft is giving W-10 away because they have a super big heart. Bull bananas. Some how, some way they have a method of making money with W-10. Because it's free they can do just about anything with the EULA. In the same way Facebook can change the rules and methods any way they want and when ever they want.
If one doesn't like it then give W-10 back. Small problem. You just wasted a perfectly good Windows 7 COA key.

I think the thing to do is wait and see if Microsoft can sell W-10 and what will the EULA be like.
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19 Feb 2016   #7
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 

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There are always alternatives. Windows does not own the world. And what does that have to do with facebook.
You asked, "Who do you think would subscribe."
I responded, "Personally I can't see why anyone would use Facebook, ...".
The point is that there are millions of people who do stupid stuff everyday.

The average user is terrified of computers.

They aren't going to use a Linux Distro (or VM) unless someone sets the new system up so that it resembles the system they already use.

I always read comments on this and other forums, stating that Linux is too difficult to use.
This is obviously rubbish, if all a user ever does is start a browser and then logs on to Facebook.

I've said it before:
  • Basic Windows User = Linux Distros easy to use (e.g. double click an icon)
  • Intermediate Windows user = Linux Distros difficult to use (e.g. tinkering with the system)
  • Expert Windows user = Linux Distros easy to use (e.g. Command Prompt is the "same" as the Linux Terminal)
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19 Feb 2016   #8
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Thanks guys. I now see where that Facebook thing comes from.

Btw - I think that some Linux distros are easier than Windows. The difference is only that most people grew up with Windows and are familiar with it. The real difficulty with Linux is finding the distro that is right for you.
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19 Feb 2016   #9
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Thanks guys. I now see where that Facebook thing comes from.
I was probably being too oblique.

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Btw - I think that some Linux distros are easier than Windows. The difference is only that most people grew up with Windows and are familiar with it.
I'd say "less annoying" as opposed to "easier" (e.g. LM MATE vs W8).

It's similar to using GUI vs Command Prompt.
Performing an operation is (generally) less annoying using the GUI, than the Command Prompt.
Note:
OTOH, if you have to do an operation lots of times, then the Command Prompt can be far less annoying (even if you have to research the solution).
I guess it is a case of using "the right tool for the right job".

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The real difficulty with Linux is finding the distro that is right for you.
Agreed.

My friend spent ~6 years trying Linux Distros until he settled on Arch (although he is having some really weird issue with it now).

I'd occasionally used Ubuntu Live CDs for ~2 years, before I decided to setup a triple boot system (XP, W7 & Ubuntu 10.04).
In 2013, I needed to get a new Distro because my friend (mostly) and I couldn't get Ubuntu 10 to use my ATI graphics card.

The new Ubuntu was ruled out due to Unity and I chose Linux Mint, which I've used ever since.
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20 Feb 2016   #10
michael diemer

Windows 7 x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
They already have trouble giving it away. Who do you think would subscribe.

Once you can't get anything but W10 (and you have to use Windows) what choice will a person have but to "cough up" the fee?
One can always choose Linux, or, if a compleat computer idiot, Os X.
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