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Windows 7: Windows 10 telemetry secrets: Where, when, and why Microsoft collects

23 Feb 2016   #1
Brink

64-bit Windows 10 Pro
 
 
Windows 10 telemetry secrets: Where, when, and why Microsoft collects

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How does Windows 10 telemetry really work? It's not a state secret. I've gone through the documentation and sorted out the where, when, and why. If you're concerned about private documents accidentally leaving your network, you might want to turn the telemetry setting down.

Telemetry is not a four-letter word.

You wouldn't know that to listen to the relentless hammering of the technology by Windows 10 critics, who see it as a form of "spying" on the part of Microsoft. Unfortunately, many of those critics have used unreliable data , compounded by a misunderstanding of the basic technology, to form their opinions.

In this article, I want to take a closer look at the way that telemetry works and the data it collects. This article relies primarily on my own testing, using a number of Microsoft-provided tools as well as third-party utilities.

My research also included discussions with engineers as well as reviews of some thorough but obscure documentation. The most useful resource I found is a detailed technical paper written for IT pros and published in the TechNet Library: Configure telemetry and other settings in your organization...


Read more: Windows 10 telemetry secrets: Where, when, and why Microsoft collects your data | ZDNet


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23 Feb 2016   #2
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Thanks Shawn.

What I don't see is what the default setting are. Where most users of Non Enterprise will be at. Can non Enterprise users make Enhanced or Basic choices?
Is their a choice just to say no to all the telemetry?
I do believe that Microsoft is trying very hard to make the telemetry as secure as possible but a opt out completely choice would be nice.
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23 Feb 2016   #3
Painter

W7Pro/64
 
 

W10 Enterprise users can turn most of the data collection off, whereas non-enterprise users can only turn some of it off. On W7, enterprise users out-number other users approximately 8-1, so when they migrate over to W10, the user base will then become the equivalent 8-1 split.

Therefore by 2020, if the policy on privacy does not change, around 10% of the user base will provide the bulk of the data used to secure, improve and make W10 a more enjoyable experience. No solicitation allowed on business property may be part of the reason.
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23 Feb 2016   #4
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
I do believe that Microsoft is trying very hard to make the telemetry as secure as possible but a opt out completely choice would be nice.
Some could view this activity as malware/spyware. When forced on you it is at least an invasion of privacy.
The Enterprise user (SME + big business) wouldn't tolerate it and apparently don't have to.
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23 Feb 2016   #5
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Painter where did you get the 8 to 1?
Eight Enterprise users to every one non Enterprise user.
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23 Feb 2016   #6
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 
Smoke Screen

The solution to the Telemetry issue isn't an "off" switch.

If MS was really concerned about user privacy, the Telemetry system would have been a separate download that users could install if they wanted to participate.
MS could have offered any sweeteners they wanted (e.g. free copies of the Enterprise version of Office).

The problem is that Telemetry is being used as a smoke screen.

With W8, it was used to justify the claim that "no one" used the W7 Start Menu, so MS "had" to introduce the Metro screen.
In reality, MS was already going to bolt a phone UI onto Windows and the so-called Telemetry data was used as cover for that decision.

With W10, MS has managed to get everyone arguing about Telemetry and that has successfully distracted everyone from asking what all of the other network data is.
Windows 10 and telemetry: Time for a simple network analysis | ZDNet
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26 Feb 2016   #7
FerchogtX

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit Build 7600 / Microsoft Windows XP Professional SP3
 
 

Well, why it was so hard for Microsoft to tell what they were collecting and how? This is comprehensive.

Now the part that still worries me, how will they ensure data like passwords (stated in the EULA) and other stuff will be out of hackers reach? And the most important, from negligent workers inside the company? (There can be, any company has this kind of issues)

Not that I'm totaly against cloud stuff, I mean, I use Mozilla's Sync to keep my settings across my PC's, I support the use of telemetry in Firefox (if you wanna) because I know what they collect and what for, I use Onedrive to store some documents I need cross-plattform.

Until Microsoft can guarantee the data they collect is totally secure, I'm still disabling telemetry, WU, and Defender. Sorry M$...
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26 Feb 2016   #8
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Did Firefox give you a 100% guarantee
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26 Feb 2016   #9
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Their is no 100% guarantee's with anything.
The only thing I can do, is be watchful and choose what I want to do.
In my opinion most users don't do those things. They just boot and except what ever.
Don't know and don't care, just poke and go.
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26 Feb 2016   #10
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

I used to have a poke and go thing going
Now it's poke and sleep
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