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Windows 7: It's time for Microsoft to fix the Windows 7 update slowdowns

18 Apr 2016   #31
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
You'd have to go through this process first for a clean install
Sticking with Windows 7? The forecast calls for pain | ZDNet...
Ohhh...kaaay. ZDNet suggests doing the following—

There is a workaround, as I discovered. Download two updates before starting the installation process, KB3083710 and KB3102810, and copy them to a USB flash drive. Install Windows 7 with SP1 and leave the network cable disconnected. Install those two updates from the flash drive before connecting to the network and running Windows Update for the first time, and you can cut that horrendous delay down to a matter of a few minutes.—

but doesn't tell HOW to do it. I couldn't see anywhere on the linked web pages where there was a download link. How does one download the updates, then put them on a USB stick? Once on the stick, how does one install the updates?

One pet peeve of mine is many geeks assume everyone knows every little detail and gloss over or leave out critical details not everyone will know.


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18 Apr 2016   #32
UsernameIssues

W7 Pro SP1 64bit
 
 

Lady Fitzgerald,
I could give you step by step instructions on how to do the steps that ZDNet suggested, but it would be a waste of time. The updates do not need to be on a USB flash drive. It just speeds things along if you disconnect from the Internet during the installation of the update to the WU client.

That said, I figured that you would avoid these WU client updates since they facilitate the installation of W10.
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18 Apr 2016   #33
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Use save as instead save & run
Point the save as to the flash drive or drag and drop from your downloads folder either one will work they are both stand alone installers.
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18 Apr 2016   #34
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by UsernameIssues View Post
Lady Fitzgerald,
I could give you step by step instructions on how to do the steps that ZDNet suggested, but it would be a waste of time. The updates do not need to be on a USB flash drive. It just speeds things along if you disconnect from the Internet during the installation of the update to the WU client.

That said, I figured that you would avoid these WU client updates since they facilitate the installation of W10.
As anal as I am about checking MS updates, first against my Specialized High Intensity Hit List, then individually checking the descriptions of any that survive the initial cull, I still managed to miss that those two are on my List. Mayhap I should have "stood" in bed?

I will keep in mind to disconnect from the internet before installing that massive update load after I build my new machine (assuming that Newegg actually sends me the ASUS X99-E WS/USB 3.1 MOBO I ordered last Wednesday; so far, all Newegg has done is take my money).

Thanks! I'd rep you if I could!
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18 Apr 2016   #35
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Those updates are innocent just take a deep breath and relax
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18 Apr 2016   #36
Callender

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by UsernameIssues View Post
Lady Fitzgerald,
I could give you step by step instructions on how to do the steps that ZDNet suggested, but it would be a waste of time. The updates do not need to be on a USB flash drive. It just speeds things along if you disconnect from the Internet during the installation of the update to the WU client.

That said, I figured that you would avoid these WU client updates since they facilitate the installation of W10.
I'd agree. Not having an internet connection is important. It should only be restored once fixes have been applied - Ideally after reconfiguring Windows update settings and rebooting.
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18 Apr 2016   #37
UsernameIssues

W7 Pro SP1 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Those updates are innocent just take a deep breath and relax
GEWB, Brds7t7 and other forum members disagree with your assessment of those WU client updates.


In April of 2015, the WU clients started installing Wu.upgrade.ps.dll. That facilitates the installation of W10 (and I'm fine with that).
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18 Apr 2016   #38
Callender

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Borg 386 View Post
BTW, I noticed that on both the 7 32 & the 7 64, the update KB3146706 is unchecked. Couldn't confirm it on the 64 till I got the updater to work, but it is unchecked there also.

I saw someone mentioned in a post it added to the boot times.
I had installed KB3146706 and got a couple of BSOD's on shutdown. Apparently if EMET is used it can cause application hangs especially if KB3147071 is also installed.

Actually I removed both updates - rebooted - and reinstalled KB3146706.

There have been no more problems.

KB3146706 causes additional 15 seconds to reboot process
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18 Apr 2016   #39
Borg 386

Win 7 32 Home Premium, Win 7 64 Pro, Win 8.1, Win 10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Callender View Post
I had installed KB3146706 and got a couple of BSOD's on shutdown. Apparently if EMET is used it can cause application hangs especially if KB3147071 is also installed.

Actually I removed both updates - rebooted - and reinstalled KB3146706.

There have been no more problems.

KB3146706 causes additional 15 seconds to reboot process
I saw it was unchecked & decided to leave it be for now, saw your post on it & EMET, which I am running on this OS. Thanks for the info on that. I'll get to checking for the other update & uninstall/reinstall both at a later time.

You know, when it comes down to everything, why are we being forced to jump though hoops just to get security updates? MS apparently doesn't care about it's 7 customers anymore or just hopes they'll switch to Ten.

The fix suggested by Thrash worked on the 7 64 lappy, I have yet to address the 7 64 on this PC, but I'm seriously investigating some of the tools in the link I posted (4 tools to update windows offline) to see about getting my updates another way.
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18 Apr 2016   #40
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

I haven't seen any win-10 stuff getting installed with those two.
I've only had to use the process with my little laptop.
My asus build's install went without any rasel-dasel but that was in a earlier/ simpler day long long ago 6 months now
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