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Windows 7: Windows Live Mail 2012 will not connect to Outlook.com

10 May 2016   #21
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
I'd use Outlook if it was free or very low cost and going to continue with support.
I've been using
WLM Version 2011 (Build 15.4.3555.0308)
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and it has met my needs. If WLM 2012 is going south then I guess so will WLM 2011.

Some people above are questioning the future support for Thunderbird!
So what client should you use and how do you migrate from WLM???
Well, if they are getting rid of POP/IMAP then I'm pretty much stuck with access through the browser only, which will be a pain as I have more than one account. Work, personal, mailing and 2 Gmail accounts which are all accessed using WLM 2012. Apparently we'll still be able to access Gmail though, but I might as well just use my browser if I can no longer use WLM to access my hotmail.


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10 May 2016   #22
FerchogtX

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit Build 7600 / Microsoft Windows XP Professional SP3
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DavidE View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Brds7t7 View Post

Might give Thunderbird a whirl. I have Office 2007 but I've never been that keen on Outlook. WLM was a lighter alternative.
It hasn't been updated for a long time so guess it's retirement was on the cards.
Not interested in any subscription based software though.
I got rid of WLM 2012 a while ago because some of my MS email accounts had been converted, and some hadn't been converted.
I switched to Mozilla Thunderbird portable available at
Portable App Directory | PortableApps.com - Portable software for USB, portable and cloud drives
Then you could test it without installing the program.

It's more complicated configuring than WLM, but it works well for me, and i like it better than WLM.
It's not that complicated, even more, you can set it up like the mail app (So it doesn't download the full contents, instead, everything is online, ala Outlook.com cell app) Yes... SMTP servers are still frustrating (gmail and yahoo are way faster and respond better), but it's way better once you get used to it.

I switched to thunderbird about a month and half ago, I don't regret it. I was fed up with all the sluggishness and slowness of the Outlook.com web interface (It's slow in every browser and system, it's just... uuuuuuuggghhh!!).

Just for entertaining, I also replaced the .... arg... stupid cellphone app too with Bluemail... I was just tired of Microsoft not adding support for extenal SD cards (YOu cannot attach anything from a external SD card, because the app can't NEVER access to that...) And Bluemail also supports another services, like Gmail and yahoo, so I just use one app for everything. Quite convenient
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10 May 2016   #23
FerchogtX

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit Build 7600 / Microsoft Windows XP Professional SP3
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Brds7t7 View Post
Well, if they are getting rid of POP/IMAP then I'm pretty much stuck with access through the browser only, which will be a pain as I have more than one account. Work, personal, mailing and 2 Gmail accounts which are all accessed using WLM 2012. Apparently we'll still be able to access Gmail though, but I might as well just use my browser if I can no longer use WLM to access my hotmail.
Wait... WHAT?
No...
NO!

That's a nightmare! They cannot get rid of IMAP access... Please God no! The web interface is slow as hell, it's a pain to check stuff and accounts one by one!

Probably they will just get rid of POP3, getting rid of IMAP will break not only Thunderbird, but also many more email clients, not to mention mobile apps that are good alternatives to that crappy official one.

If they try to get rid of IMAP, that means they are trying to force people into their official apps, or the web interface, both plagged of adds... And that IS A DIRTY move, as mud...

Why M$, why are you ruining everything?


EDIT:

Aparently, M$ will not drop support for POP/IMAP, just that special Windows Live/Outlook Syncronization... a protocol only used for the Windows Live Mail Application.

Will this change affect Thunderbird? ? mozillaZine Forums
Windows Live Mail 2012 end of Outlook support - gHacks Tech News

My God, I was scared! Good news everyone, Jump on the Thunderbird Bandwagon!
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10 May 2016   #24
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by FerchogtX View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Brds7t7 View Post
Well, if they are getting rid of POP/IMAP then I'm pretty much stuck with access through the browser only, which will be a pain as I have more than one account. Work, personal, mailing and 2 Gmail accounts which are all accessed using WLM 2012. Apparently we'll still be able to access Gmail though, but I might as well just use my browser if I can no longer use WLM to access my hotmail.
Wait... WHAT?
No...
NO!

That's a nightmare! They cannot get rid of IMAP access... Please God no! The web interface is slow as hell, it's a pain to check stuff and accounts one by one!

Probably they will just get rid of POP3, getting rid of IMAP will break not only Thunderbird, but also many more email clients, not to mention mobile apps that are good alternatives to that crappy official one.

If they try to get rid of IMAP, that means they are trying to force people into their official apps, or the web interface, both plagged of adds... And that IS A DIRTY move, as mud...

Why M$, why are you ruining everything?

EDIT:

Aparently, M$ will not drop support for POP/IMAP, just that special Windows Live/Outlook Syncronization... a protocol only used for the Windows Live Mail Application.

Will this change affect Thunderbird? ? mozillaZine Forums

My God, I was scared! Good news everyone, Jump on the Thunderbird Bandwagon!
That's good to know!

Well, if they aren't dropping IMAP/POP then we should be able to carry on using WLM 2012, it will just need all the accounts reconfigured to work.
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10 May 2016   #25
FerchogtX

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit Build 7600 / Microsoft Windows XP Professional SP3
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Brds7t7 View Post
That's good to know!

Well, if they aren't dropping IMAP/POP then we should be able to carry on using WLM 2012, it will just need all the accounts reconfigured to work.
Fortunately, the second link includes instructions to change that setting in WLM 2012, you just change from Live Sync to IMAP or POP, that does the trick according to them.

So yeah, those are WONDERFUL news!!!
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10 May 2016   #26
FerchogtX

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit Build 7600 / Microsoft Windows XP Professional SP3
 
 

I swear this is the last one XD

For the people setting up their IMAP accounts in TB, if you feel syncronization is slow, a thing that worked for me is:



This will, instead of download all mails from your account, just retrive information headers and content directly from the server. You will also save a lot of space (my stuff was taking about 5 GB in my HDD... ouch!, now it hardly takes 40 MB, easy to backup). This also speesdup reading and working with your emails and applies with Outlook.com, Gmail and Yahoo accounts, I ignore if other supported servers work too as I don't have accounts on any other server.
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11 May 2016   #27
Callender

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by FerchogtX View Post
I swear this is the last one XD

For the people setting up their IMAP accounts in TB, if you feel syncronization is slow, a thing that worked for me is:



This will, instead of download all mails from your account, just retrive information headers and content directly from the server. You will also save a lot of space (my stuff was taking about 5 GB in my HDD... ouch!, now it hardly takes 40 MB, easy to backup). This also speesdup reading and working with your emails and applies with Outlook.com, Gmail and Yahoo accounts, I ignore if other supported servers work too as I don't have accounts on any other server.
You might like this old forum post:

Thunderbird Links don't work
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12 May 2016   #28
FerchogtX

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit Build 7600 / Microsoft Windows XP Professional SP3
 
 

Fantastic!
That's a good thing to keep!

Thanks for that post
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12 May 2016   #29
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

Looks like they'll definitely be continuing to support POP/IMAP.
I just setup a new test account and got the new outlook layout (all my previous ones are still on the old layout). So there is no reason we will have to stop using WLM 2012, it will just be a case of removing and re-adding the accounts with IMAP or POP whichever you prefer.

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Callender View Post
You might like this old forum post:

Thunderbird Links don't work
Some nice info there Callender!


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12 May 2016   #30
FerchogtX

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit Build 7600 / Microsoft Windows XP Professional SP3
 
 

Yep, WLM 2012 will still work with Outlook, Brds7t7.

However, all users or this app, be warned, if you use IMAP or POP, automatic contact and callendar syncronization will not work as it used to be. Cannot be helped since M$ tied those to email sync with their private protocol. But at least, you can still use WLM to check your mails, which is a big win over the bloated Outlook.com web interface.
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