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Windows 7: Simplifying updates for Windows 7 and 8.1

20 May 2016   #141
johnny20

Windows 7 Home Premium 64
 
 

It's clear now, thanks. I wonder if the roll up includes all these framework updates or not?


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20 May 2016   #142
Urthboundmisfit

Win 10 Pro x64, Win 7 Pro x64
 
 

Yes it does... well all but a few anyway.
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20 May 2016   #143
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

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If you want to call a cpu or ram getting devoured as watching a pot boil than yes.
Especially when it is obviously hung up with no network or disk activity.
This usually renders dual core machines useless.
I was referring to users that manually start the search process and periodically check the status of the search.

I've watched Resource Monitor and Process Monitor during the high CPU and high RAM WU issue... and you are right, there is almost no hard drive activity. There is some. Not enough to light up the hard drive light, but some. The same is true for network activity. Wireshark shows very little activity for hours... not enough to show in Task Manager. I was hoping to see the WU process try different MS servers, but I could not make much sense out of the traffic that was flowing.
Default activity is for windows to call home shortly after startup and the trait is nobody is home causing people to switch to Never check for updates.

But yea not many people would notice unless a machine is really slowed
When it's messed up 50% for dual core and 25% on a quad core "if lucky" it could be 100% usage where someone would really notice a slow down.

Most browsers like Chrome/ Firefox/ PaleMoon soak up the rest of the resources pretty darn fast with only 2-3-4-5... tabs open and the rest is soaked up by svchost
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20 May 2016   #144
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Default activity is for windows to call home shortly after startup and the trait is nobody is home causing people to switch to Never check for updates.

But yea not many people would notice unless a machine is really slowed
When it's messed up 50% for dual core and 25% on a quad core "if lucky" it could be 100% usage where someone would really notice a slow down.

Most browsers like Chrome/ Firefox/ PaleMoon soak up the rest of the resources pretty darn fast with only 2-3-4-5... tabs open and the rest is soaked up by svchost
On my main PC, the CPU and Motherboard temperatures jump by ~10 degrees C.
It took a few hours to get this month's updates.
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20 May 2016   #145
legacy7955

win 7 home premium 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
If you want to call a cpu or ram getting devoured as watching a pot boil than yes.
Especially when it is obviously hung up with no network or disk activity.
This usually renders dual core machines useless.


Ding, ding, ding! The daily double winner!


This is EXACTLY what happened to me!

I will say that installing the latest Windows Update Client version seems to help.
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21 May 2016   #146
Painter

W7Pro/64
 
 

Followup to my question (post 110). It was not posted here, it was a private response.

The Disk Cleanup Wizard in W7 does not recognize the "SP2" (convenience rollup) with a separate plugin.
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21 May 2016   #147
BrianR1

Windows 7 64 bit
 
 

I have Win 7 home 64 bit and have had nothing but problems with updates. I also just did clean install on another drive, got through some of the updates and then poof, couldn't get the last 100. Do I need to remove all my current updates to install this rolling update package?
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21 May 2016   #148
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

It is an msu, so probably will just install those you haven't already got. Try it and see.Likely to take quite a while.

You could use simplix instead
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21 May 2016   #149
Urthboundmisfit

Win 10 Pro x64, Win 7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post

You could use simplix instead
I just completed my first Simplix integration and am about to test it in a VM, very impressive... integrated 224 packages in 1:05 and another 10-15 mins to Optimize .WIM.

Did you fix the error you described here? Was it what I described in my reply to you here or other?
Also see my reply to johnny20 here:

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What am I missing?
If you install the convienience rollup (I would in your position) first install KB3020369 (Servicing Stack update, prerequisite for rollup) and recommend installing KB2670838 (Platform Update, also a prerequisite for IE11) IE11, latest Cum Sec Update for IE11, KB3138612 (Latest Update Client) KB3145739 (updates Win32k.sys) & KB3153199 (Latest Kernel-Mode Drivers) BEFORE installing KB3125574.

HTH
Using the above sequence, be it installing or integrating, has helped me avoid the Windows Update woes that have plagued so many. 6-7 minutes first run WU on a fresh install/fresh test VM and subsequent checks take approx 2-4 minutes

HTH.
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22 May 2016   #150
Urthboundmisfit

Win 10 Pro x64, Win 7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Urthboundmisfit View Post

I just completed my first Simplix integration and am about to test it in a VM, very impressive... integrated 224 packages in 1:05 and another 10-15 mins to Optimize .WIM.
Very nice! Installed in VM flawlessy had to install just a few problem & non-integratable updates. It did not install the Windows 10 Telemetry & Upgrade updates as promised. Disk Cleanup resulted in slight problem by removing both KB3072630 & KB3139923... 3072630 was actually superseded by 3139923 but it removed both,as it turns out 3139923 actually issued a V-2 after the pack was created so alls well there. SFC /Scannow returned no integrity violations. Windows Update performed quickly & efficiently, no problem there.

All in all I was very impressed with Simplix and will begin using it regularly

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