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Windows 7: August 2016 update rollup for Windows 7 SP1

25 Aug 2016   #31
Bertison

Windows 7/64 HPremium.
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by LevelBest View Post
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Think this has been said, at least by me:

Access "Change Settings" from Control Panel. Set Updates to "Check for updates but let me choose whether to download and install them."
When each update is listed, RIGHT click first. Select "More Information." Take a close look at what it is and what it does. Accept or reject it by leaving the check mark in the box, move on to next, repeat for all listed updates.

After this is completed, right click the ones unchecked, one by one, choose "Hide Update."

Download and install only the ones you want. It takes a little work, and a little thought.

Yes, I already do this. Unless I've misunderstood MS are now going to (from October I believe) issue one update a month which will contain a number of updates which you won't be able to see. The usual MS blurb via 'information' is that an update will resolve a number of issues - it's usually very vague. At least when I can see 'update for IE11' I know that's what I'm getting.

LevelBest
With the greatest respect, I don't think that you do "..already do this." If you carefully scroll down and check the details on the MS window that opens when you select "More Information", you can find all the information you need, to make a decision about installing or rejecting a specific KBxxxxxx update. Makes no difference whether it is an 'Important' or an 'Optional' update, all the information is there under "More Information." I have sometimes discovered that an Optional is actually more important to my needs, than some of the Important ones.

EDIT: the "rollups" are useful IMO. It is just as easy to pick them apart in "More Information."


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26 Aug 2016   #32
LevelBest

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit (Service Pack 1)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Bertison View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by LevelBest View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Bertison View Post
Think this has been said, at least by me:

Access "Change Settings" from Control Panel. Set Updates to "Check for updates but let me choose whether to download and install them."
When each update is listed, RIGHT click first. Select "More Information." Take a close look at what it is and what it does. Accept or reject it by leaving the check mark in the box, move on to next, repeat for all listed updates.

After this is completed, right click the ones unchecked, one by one, choose "Hide Update."

Download and install only the ones you want. It takes a little work, and a little thought.

Yes, I already do this. Unless I've misunderstood MS are now going to (from October I believe) issue one update a month which will contain a number of updates which you won't be able to see. The usual MS blurb via 'information' is that an update will resolve a number of issues - it's usually very vague. At least when I can see 'update for IE11' I know that's what I'm getting.

LevelBest
With the greatest respect, I don't think that you do "..already do this." If you carefully scroll down and check the details on the MS window that opens when you select "More Information", you can find all the information you need, to make a decision about installing or rejecting a specific KBxxxxxx update. Makes no difference whether it is an 'Important' or an 'Optional' update, all the information is there under "More Information." I have sometimes discovered that an Optional is actually more important to my needs, than some of the Important ones.

EDIT: the "rollups" are useful IMO. It is just as easy to pick them apart in "More Information."


I definitely DO have my settings to allow me to choose which updates to install. Yes, I am aware of the information available but don't find that to be reliable. You often find the real truth of the matter on forums such as this. I don't believe I've ever seen an update which has the information "this is a telemetry patch so we can monitor what you're doing on your PC". With one single roll up, you're not going to know what is being installed.

LevelBest
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26 Aug 2016   #33
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

KB3179573 appears as optional. I have generally only installed "important" updates for some time now. Most of the important updates are security updates so I install them. I always make a system image before and run an sfc after.

Unfortunately even contrary to MS definitions I have had a recommended/ optional update which really was important. I forget which one it was but ironically it affected being able to do updates.
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26 Aug 2016   #34
Bertison

Windows 7/64 HPremium.
 
 

LevelBest, I'm sorry but I can always find all the relevant info I need in "More Information". There is also usually a link on that page which can access further info.

For example, today I have an Optional Update which, after accessing "More Information" turns out to be for Windows 7 Help, applicable to a specific Network Card. On the surface, it does not apply to me, but closer examination reveals a lot of 7 Help, so I will download that.

The problem facing Win7 users now, is that MS is so determined to get as many of us to switch, that they use some underhand methods to make that possible. We have to work at stopping them. For instance, I installed GWX Control Panel last year: Ultimate Outsider - Software Downloads
If I make a mistake and happen to download a 10 feature, GWX CP kills it. I recommend it, after setting it up as recommended it works for me.
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26 Aug 2016   #35
LevelBest

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit (Service Pack 1)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Bertison View Post
[B]The problem facing Win7 users now, is that MS is so determined to get as many of us to switch, that they use some underhand methods to make that possible. We have to work at stopping them. For instance, I installed GWX Control Panel last year: Ultimate Outsider - Software Downloads
If I make a mistake and happen to download a 10 feature, GWX CP kills it. I recommend it, after setting it up as recommended it works for me.

That's pretty much the conclusion I'm coming to, that this is an attempt to ready computers for a Win10 upgrade. I guess you could take a chance and install the single roll out and be prepared to run a system image or just not install the single update. My concern is by not installing it, you could be missing out on vital security patches but by installing it, leave your computer vulnerable to an unwanted Win10 upgrade (never mind the telemetry patches). Feels a bit damned if you do, damned if you don't. I've not heard of GWX Control Panel. I shall have a look into that. If it's designed to reject Win10 patches, I wonder how it would cope with a single roll out. Would the panel recognise potential Win10 patches within one single roll up. Mmmm, interesting time Win7 users go into.
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26 Aug 2016   #36
DavidE

Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64
 
 

There are some programs that can check for missing security patches.
Here are the ones i periodically use to see what they find:

Secunia PSI
https://secunia.com/
Personal Software Inspector | Flexera Software

MBSA - Microsoft Baseline Security Analyzer
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/down...s.aspx?id=7558

Belarc Advisor
Belarc - System Management For The Internet Age. Software license management, IT asset management, IT security audits and more.

Others may know more programs or better ways to check.
I use these in addition to my real-time security programs.

I never let these or any programs auto-update, i just want to see what they report, and i choose what/when to update.

I've read some people believe MS is or will still try to upgrade/install Win 10 after the free upgrade offer ended.
I don't know if that's FUD, Fact, Rumor, or whatever.
I know i have System Image backups and i have my systems the way i want them.
If MS does sneak something new into one of my systems for a W10 update, i can restore a backup image.

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26 Aug 2016   #37
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

If it is the case that MS wants to try another upgrade push and force it on to our systems, all I can say is "Good luck with that MS!".

MS can try all the tricks they want, 10 is not getting on any of my systems until I find it suits my needs. If I choose to upgrade it'll be on my terms not on MS terms.

If it comes to that and I have to turn Windows update off, then so be it. I'll go back to doing what I did during the first upgrade offer, switching off Windows updates and downloading the security updates manually. No big deal!
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26 Aug 2016   #38
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Hi,
Yea that would be fun wouldn't it

They already showed the large full screen upgrade notice update

Not sure why everything is hyperlinking either
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3173040


Maybe they go with second chance full screen notice next
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26 Aug 2016   #39
TheLovleyGuy

Windows 8 64bit
 
 

Hi,

MS seems wants to make if anybody have updates set to (No Automatic Updates) on Windows 7, Microsoft Wants to make a push and install updates by itself.

I was restarting my PC and founded my PC installing a update , And after that My Default User Was Removed and Administrator User got activated.

I wiped my PC and Installed Windows 8, Now I am better with it for updates + Work

My Windows 7 was not having SP1 for a year and i was great until August. I could not log back to my user and my Default + My Users folder was just deleted, i made hidden files to ON and they where not there

Always when i make a Upgrade to Windows 10, I always found it downloaded , and my graphics was old so i could not launch games like (Minecraft) So i just downgraded and i am never going to Windows 10 with old graphics.

See the Attachment of Which is the best Windows,and reply to me if i am correct


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26 Aug 2016   #40
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Hi,
I don't need a txt file to tell me that
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