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09 Oct 2016   #21
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

Can't say 100% about drivers, I'm assuming they would continue to be separate and fall under the optional category as before.

I think bundling those in with the rollups could be a big mistake.

I don't use Windows 10 so not sure how the driver updates work on the OS. Are they included in 10's rollups?


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09 Oct 2016   #22
Callender

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

As far as I know setting "SearchOrderConfig" disables WU driver search/ installation.


From my machine:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\DriverSearching]
"SearchOrderConfig"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\DriverSearching\Plugin]
"WUSearchLibrary"="chkwudrv.dll"

Who knows if these settings will be obeyed under the new WU system. I guess we will find out this week.
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09 Oct 2016   #23
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Callender View Post
As far as I know setting "SearchOrderConfig" disables WU driver search/ installation.


From my machine:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\DriverSearching]
"SearchOrderConfig"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\DriverSearching\Plugin]
"WUSearchLibrary"="chkwudrv.dll"

Who knows if these settings will be obeyed under the new WU system. I guess we will find out this week.
Hi Callender,

Just wondering if those reg settings do the same as this:

More on Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 servicing changes-capture-04.jpg

Or are they two separate settings?


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09 Oct 2016   #24
Callender

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Brds7t7 View Post

Hi Callender,

Just wondering if those reg settings do the same as this:

Attachment 392587

Or are they two separate settings?
As far as I know it's the same thing. Applying the settings in your screenshot "should" create the registry entry.

I can't say for certain though.

EDIT: Well because I did not personally create those registry enties I guess they must have neen created by choosing the same options as you to disable driver updates via windows updates some time ago. Too long ago to remember!
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10 Oct 2016   #25
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

Thanks Callender!

Nice easy to understand article posted on gHacks today:

Say good-bye to individual patches on Windows 7 and 8 - gHacks Tech News
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10 Oct 2016   #26
Seffrid

Windows 7 Home Premium 64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Brds7t7 View Post
Thanks Callender!

Nice easy to understand article posted on gHacks today:

Say good-bye to individual patches on Windows 7 and 8 - gHacks Tech News
Yet another article misleads users over the concept of "a single update". There will still be assorted separate updates in addition to whichever of the two cumulative updates you opt for. Disabling the updating service completely won't simply mean you don't get the cumulative update it also means you won't get any of the other updates for e.g. Office, Skype, Silverlight, MSE and so on, so if you're getting your cumulative update from the MS Update Catalog you'll need to track down those other updates as well or choose to go without the lot.
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10 Oct 2016   #27
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

How is it misleading? It does state in the article there will be a separate security update which isn't available through Windows Update. Which is true.
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10 Oct 2016   #28
Sky Ranch

Windows 7 Home 64-bit
 
 

Just to avoid any confusion on my part, these rollups consist of important and recommended (if "give me recommended updates the same way I receive important updates" is enabled), but do not include optional updates? And if recommended updates is not selected, the rollups will include only important updates?

Thanks.
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10 Oct 2016   #29
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Sky Ranch View Post
Just to avoid any confusion on my part, these rollups consist of important and recommended (if "give me recommended updates the same way I receive important updates" is enabled), but do not include optional updates? And if recommended updates is not selected, the rollups will include only important updates?

Thanks.
The rollups will be the same, no matter what you select with regards to "Install recommended the same as important". I don't think that will apply to the rollups. Otherwise there would have to be two rollups available through Windows Update, which MS has said won't be the case. The security only rollup will not be available through WU.
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10 Oct 2016   #30
Sky Ranch

Windows 7 Home 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Brds7t7 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Sky Ranch View Post
Just to avoid any confusion on my part, these rollups consist of important and recommended (if "give me recommended updates the same way I receive important updates" is enabled), but do not include optional updates? And if recommended updates is not selected, the rollups will include only important updates?

Thanks.
The rollups will be the same, no matter what you select with regards to "Install recommended the same as important". I don't think that will apply to the rollups. Otherwise there would have to be two rollups available through Windows Update, which MS has said won't be the case. The security only rollup will not be available through WU.
Thanks, Brds. Much appreciated.

If that's the case, I wonder if the "Give me recommended updates the same way I receive important updates" option will cease to exist in the image below:


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