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Windows 7: Windows users face massive update bloat, tough choices

23 Oct 2016   #11
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Brds7t7 View Post
If they wanted to end fragmentation then why still have two separate updates, one for Security only and one that also contains the other updates? How is that going to end fragmentation?
Most users won't know how to get the Security Only Update.
True, a lot of home users might not. But there are business environments who access the updates other ways and will have had time to prepare for this.

It will reduce fragmentation that's true, but it certainly won't end it. The only way to do that is just push out one update for everybody without leaving any other option for security-only updates.


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23 Oct 2016   #12
RoasterMen

Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
 
 

My main drive will be doing a lot of hard work when that starts. I'll be limiting updates for Windows 10 once these updates appear on my PC.
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23 Oct 2016   #13
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Brds7t7 View Post
If they wanted to end fragmentation then why still have two separate updates, one for Security only and one that also contains the other updates? How is that going to end fragmentation?
Most users won't know how to get the Security Only Update.
I was hinting if you know the process then maybe enlighten us.
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23 Oct 2016   #14
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

Published here every month:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/894199

Direct link here:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3192391

MS update catalog links here:
Microsoft Update Catalog

There is no automated way to get these security-only updates though.

Edit: I might look into making a batch script each month and adding/updating each months Security-only rollups into it for easy installation on a new install. Will most likely do the same for Windows 8.1 too. Means I'll have to collect a lot of updates (although not as many as it would have been before the rollups).
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24 Oct 2016   #15
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

Thanks
So if I understand correctly you hide all updates (my setting - tell me & let me download) then hide them. Then go here
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then install???

If you leave security updates for a couple of months will the new ones include the older "required" security updates.

I apologize for my ignorance since I haven't been following all this required rigamarole.
I have concerns that there may be other non security updates required.

Yours in some confusion - MJF.


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24 Oct 2016   #16
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

When it comes to the security-only updates you have to install each months. Say if you skip September and just install October then you'd be missing September's security updates.

That link I posted for KB3192391 only has this months security updates.

You will need to check the first link I posted each month for the security-only quality update - not to be confused with the monthly security quality update (yes this is badly named and confusing, it should be called a Security AND quality update).

If you want to install other recommended updates then your choices are "all or nothing" once they become fully cumulative, and all past patches will be bundled in

If you want to avoid any recommended updates then you will have to hide (or ignore) each months "Security Quality Rollups" from Windows Update.
Then manually download and install that months security-only updates

This whole thing would be much easier if they made the security-only updates cumulative too. As we could just install one update and be up to date security wise.
Unfortunately, they've chosen not to do that.
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24 Oct 2016   #17
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

That's what I thought so you may as well do as I do:
1) wait a little while for the failure dust to settle (eg. 1-2 weeks) before installing updates.
2) make a system image
3) install the rollups
4) wait a little while including doing an sfc /scannow and see if there are any problems
5) if problems occur then perform a system reimage and decide what to do

Life couldn't be simpler could it
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25 Oct 2016   #18
MeOnMine

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 OEM
 
 

I can't find a "September Security only update".
Was there one ?
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25 Oct 2016   #19
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MeOnMine View Post
I can't find a "September Security only update".
Was there one ?
No, I was just using it as an example. The Security-only rollups only started this month.
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25 Oct 2016   #20
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
Life couldn't be simpler could it
It's going to be a lot of fun doing clean installs now for anyone who wants to skip certain updates. That's when the real headaches will begin!
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