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Windows 7: Windows users face massive update bloat, tough choices

25 Oct 2016   #21
3Colors

64-bit Windows 7 Professional
 
 

If only the security package is installed through the website, the package of patches this month will continue to display on the WU ? Since it contains other non-critical patches and then not being installed will still be shown as a patch available(5330).


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25 Oct 2016   #22
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by 3Colors View Post
If only the security package is installed through the website, the package of patches this month will continue to display on the WU ? Since it contains other non-critical patches and then not being installed will still be shown as a patch available(5330).
Yes, it will still display that months "Security Quality Update" in WU.
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25 Oct 2016   #23
3Colors

64-bit Windows 7 Professional
 
 

What a nightmare. With W10 it was already passable. But now is more complicated
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25 Oct 2016   #24
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by 3Colors View Post
What a nightmare. With W10 it was already passable. But now is more complicated
The naming of the updates doesn't help matters.

The Security-only quality update should just be called a security-only update (omitting the quality), and the Security Quality Update should be called a Security AND Quality update.

Also, we have the "Preview of Security Quality Update". Which is a preview of next months recommended updates before they get rolled into next months full package.
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25 Oct 2016   #25
3Colors

64-bit Windows 7 Professional
 
 

I do not know why they came up with that. When he finished offering W10 was supposed to all be back to normal. It was fine as before. They forgot the phrase "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".
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25 Oct 2016   #26
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

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They forgot the phrase "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".
100% agree!

MS logic is that they want to make it easier for people on clean installs, so they just install one patch, then be up to date.
This won't make a difference though unless they've fixed the slow update scans on a new install.

Unless they fix that, it'll still take hours!
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25 Oct 2016   #27
3Colors

64-bit Windows 7 Professional
 
 

Although this change is uncomfortable for some (myself included), the idea is good as you say for those starting from scratch.

Instead of seeing 100 or 200 patches now it will be seen for months and well packaged. But the dilemma is that there is a patch causes a conflict for certain PC settings. If it is urgent to fix the solution is more harmful because it would imply uninstall the entire package and be exposed to security risks.
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25 Oct 2016   #28
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by 3Colors View Post
Although this change is uncomfortable for some (myself included), the idea is good as you say for those starting from scratch.

Instead of seeing 100 or 200 patches now it will be seen for months and well packaged. But the dilemma is that there is a patch causes a conflict for certain PC settings. If it is urgent to fix the solution is more harmful because it would imply uninstall the entire package and be exposed to security risks.
Yep, for people who want to get up to date quickly, and not skip updates - it's a blessing. They would still have to install a couple of patches in advance to get WU working properly though.

For people who want to pick and choose patches as before - it's the total opposite and will take a LOT more work.
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25 Oct 2016   #29
3Colors

64-bit Windows 7 Professional
 
 

What are you thinking to do Brds7t7 ? Support for W7 ends in 2019. I can tolerate as everyone here have a list of patches are not installed but they are all as optional or recommended. But see the Windows update that is pending to download the "security package" (plus extras) is another matter. As to no longer sleep peacefully, like right now XP

I do not know. I think give in to this change because right now my mind is on other things that added to all this is already a lot. Some here have already installed packages and so far so good. Except a user who had to uninstall it by finding certain problems :

Anything undesirable in KB3185330 or KB3188740?
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25 Oct 2016   #30
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Hi,
Indeed Brds7t7 has been a wealth of updating information
Now post outside the new section so we might rep you mate
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