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Windows 7: Windows users face massive update bloat, tough choices

21 Oct 2016   #1
Borg 386

Win 7 32 Home Premium, Win 7 64 Pro, Win 8.1, Win 10
 
 
Windows users face massive update bloat, tough choices

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Windows 10’s cumulative updates have ballooned in size, and a similar bloat will also affect the Windows 7 updates that Microsoft revamped this month.
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Updates increase in size because they are cumulative; October’s 989MB update for 1511 included not only new fixes, but also those in every prior update. September’s, in turn, included new fixes as well as those in August’s and July’s and June’s and....

And so on and so on.
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In fact, Microsoft expects that Windows 7’s updates, like those for Windows 10, will get bigger.

“The rollups will start out small, but we expect that these will grow over time to something close to the convenience roll-up size,” said Nathan Mercer, a Microsoft product marketing manager, in the August announcement of the change to Windows 7’s update scheme.

The “convenience roll-up” Mercer mentioned was about 477MB in size (for the 64-bit version). Microsoft issued the roll-up in May.

In another answer, Mercer got more specific. “Eventually [the Windows 7] Monthly Roll-up will grow to around the 500MB size,” he said.
Windows users face massive update bloat, tough choices | PCWorld


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21 Oct 2016   #2
HammerHead

win 7 X64 Ultimate SP1
 
 
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Do we update or do we not update (Win7)?
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21 Oct 2016   #3
Jody Thornton

Windows 8 Professional x64
 
 

But wait, does that mean that the equivalent of each update bundled in is bigger, or that there are just more updates bundled together?

I'm on the original Windows 8, and so I just used the Security-Only update for the original Server 2012 (which is essentially Windows 8 Server). It updated with aplomb, and the IE update was bundled in as well. Down the road, the only separate update will be the .NET rollup and any Flash update. It didn't seem to be a lot of extras there.

I would suggest if you like Windows 7 the way it is, just install the Security-only and .NET rollups from the Security Bulletins page.
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21 Oct 2016   #4
torchwood

W7 home premium 32bit/W7HP 64bit/w10 tp insider ring
 
 

Allthough the Cumulative updates will grow in size.,

Windows Update process will continue as it allways has, it will prune out any previously installed KB's/hotfix's, during the evaluation and set-up stage, this can be seen in YOUR current CBS log.

So although the download may be 500Mb in size thats not whats actually installed.

Roy
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21 Oct 2016   #5
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

They can change the update model all they like. I've never installed every update which has been pushed out anyway. So I'll be sticking with the security only rollups for now.

If they wanted to end fragmentation then why still have two separate updates, one for Security only and one that also contains the other updates? How is that going to end fragmentation?

The main issue I have is this still won't address the slow update scans on new installs. You need to have a couple of patches installed to get Windows Update working out of the box these days. This issue hasn't been addressed and that's still the main Windows Update problem!

We will still see users complaining about updates not working on new setups.
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22 Oct 2016   #6
tannim

win7 home premium 64bit
 
 

So every time you download the new updates, you're re-downloading every other update you've already downloaded? That's a huge waste of bandwidth.
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22 Oct 2016   #7
Painter

W7Pro/64
 
 

If you choose to get updated through Windows Update, you do not have to install every single monthly rollup that is offered, because they are going to be cumulative. You could skip a few months at a the time and then when you decide to apply updates just install the current month's offering and your system will be fully up to date.

Security is always the concern, however security holes are usually around for quite a while before they are addressed by MS. If something super critical is found, there is going to be a lot of internet buzz about it, then it would be appropriate to get the monthly rollup installed that contains that fix, asap.

I know that that is not the way we have been trained to think about updating, however, monthly is just an arbitrary schedule. As the rollups grow in size and become an issue for those users on severely metered connections, they may find it more palatable to give over a good percentage of their bandwidth to MS to cannibalize just one month in three.
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22 Oct 2016   #8
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Brds7t7 View Post
If they wanted to end fragmentation then why still have two separate updates, one for Security only and one that also contains the other updates? How is that going to end fragmentation?
Most users won't know how to get the Security Only Update.
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22 Oct 2016   #9
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Hi,
Should ssd users be more concerned about all of these large updates
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22 Oct 2016   #10
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Brds7t7 View Post
If they wanted to end fragmentation then why still have two separate updates, one for Security only and one that also contains the other updates? How is that going to end fragmentation?
Most users won't know how to get the Security Only Update.
I'm one of them.
All my PCs have Home Premium and I thought there was a restriction on accessing security only updates.
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