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Windows 7: AMD Back In The Game

13 Nov 2008   #1
Bare Foot Kid
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W 7 64-bit Ultimate
 
 
AMD Back In The Game

AMD back in the game with impressive Shanghai debut!

Almost one year to the day after Phenom debuted on the desktop and fell flat on its face, AMD is back with its 45nm Shanghai refresh. Calling this processor launch "important" would be a colossal understatement; AMD's ability to continue as a going concern in the x86 market fundamentally depends on how well Shanghai performs. AMD has spent the last twelve months rather pointedly not talking about Shanghai; the only topic it discussed less was asset smart.

AMD hasn't revealed all the details on what it revamped in Shanghai, but here's what we know. Shanghai is 65nm Barcelona respun on 45nm technology. It carries 6MB of L3 (up from 2MB), and it will officially support DDR2-800 (Barcelona topped out at DDR2-667). AMD has added support for a power-saving technology it calls Smart Fetch (we'll discuss that in a moment), and improved virtualization performance. The processor's integrated memory controller also got a few upgrades, and can now split itself into two 64-bit channels, as opposed to always being stuck in 128-bit mode. Doing so allows the processor to perform simultaneous read/writes, though maximum bandwidth through either channel is obviously just half of the standard total. AMD also improved how frequently Shanghai can query CPUs in other sockets—if I've understood correctly, this is only useful to companies deploying two-socket solutions and up.

Fetch, Shanghai, fetch.

Smart Fetch is AMD's new power-saving technology that allows the chip to completely power down cores that aren't in use. No word yet on whether or not this feature will make it into Deneb, the upcoming desktop flavor of Shanghai, but I'd bet it will, probably as part of a revamped "Super Cool'n'Quiet Deluxe Extreme WTF Edition, now with Silicon-on-Peanut-Butter technology." AMD is touting Smart Fetch as an example of why an exclusionary cache design, in which L1/L2 aren't duplicated in L3, is better than an inclusive cache hierarchy, in which L1/L2 data is duplicated in L3. Intel's cache structure is inclusive, AMD's is exclusive, and the two of them have been fighting over which is better since K7 debuted in 1999. We'll let them argue over it, and look at smart Fetch instead.
Smart Fetch kicks in when a Shanghai core is ready for beddy-bye. Instead of dropping the CPU into a sleep state, Smart Fetch reads the sum totals of its L1 and L2 cache, then drops that data into L3, presumably flagging it in a way that tells the other cores not to write data into those blocks. The appropriate core is then powered off completely, which saves power. When the processor needs the core to power up again, Smart Fetch hurries off, grabs the requisite blocks of L3 cache, and rewrites them into L1/L2.

Read more at the source.


Later Ted


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13 Nov 2008   #2
kunzy

XP, W7 7000
 
 

any word on when it and the Deneb will be released? Or what socket size they will use?

I'm a fan of AMD so im a little yay on the inside.
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14 Nov 2008   #3
NormCameron

Vista X32. Windows 7 32bit
 
 

I like AMD too and it's nice to see them coming out with something good.
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15 Nov 2008   #4
swarfega

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
 
 

My next upgrade will be to Intel's new I7.
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15 Nov 2008   #5
NormCameron

Vista X32. Windows 7 32bit
 
 

That would be nice. I'm not due for a year or so as I just built an Athlon Dual Core 2.8ghz system to run Windows 7 on. "She who pays the Bills" says that's my lot for as far into the future as she can see. However I have a feeling everything on the Beast will have a catastrophic failure in about 12months.
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15 Nov 2008   #6
StackOverflow

Windows Vista Ultimate SP1 x64, Windows Vista Ultimate SP1 x86, Fedora 9 i386, Ubuntu 8.04 x86_x64
 
 

What's the I7?
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15 Nov 2008   #7
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x2 Windows 10 Enterprise x64, Ubuntu
 
 

Hi StackOverFlow

It's the New Intel processor

Intel Core I7 Review - Overclockers Club

First review I found best to read them all and decide yourself
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15 Nov 2008   #8
StackOverflow

Windows Vista Ultimate SP1 x64, Windows Vista Ultimate SP1 x86, Fedora 9 i386, Ubuntu 8.04 x86_x64
 
 

Yeah, I got a new profile pic with it. Thanks.
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15 Nov 2008   #9
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x2 Windows 10 Enterprise x64, Ubuntu
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kunzy View Post
any word on when it and the Deneb will be released? Or what socket size they will use?

I'm a fan of AMD so im a little yay on the inside.
Deneb Details ...
AMD 45nm Press Kit | Media Resources & Images

Enjoy
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15 Nov 2008   #10
kunzy

XP, W7 7000
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 View Post

O.o
good stuff
thanks
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