| Windows 7: Why there's no 64-bit Silverlight from Microsoft |
18 Jan 2010
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#1 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Hampton VA |
Why there's no 64-bit Silverlight from Microsoft Why there's no 64-bit Silverlight from Micorsoft... yet Quote: In February 2009 we e-mailed Scott Guthrie, corporate vice president of Microsoft's .NET Developer Division, and asked him if Silverlight 3 would have a 64-bit version. He told us no, as other browser plugins (and most browsers) don't support 64-bit. Silverlight 3 was released in February 2009 and indeed was only available for 32-bit browsers.
Soon after the Silverlight 4 beta arrived (unsurprisingly, only in a 32-bit version), we spoke with Brian Goldfarb, director of the Developer Platform and Tools Group at Microsoft, about the company's priorities for developing future versions of the plugin.
"The simple answer is no, we are not supporting 64-bit browsers," Goldfarb told us. "Users are running 32-bit browsers because of plugins. It's all about sequencing and timing. We're absolutely going to do it; we're just not going to do it yet." Based on the data Microsoft was seeing, 64-bit browser support just wasn't worth the effort, Goldfarb told us.
"I don't know at what version, but it will happen," he said. "My customers are asking for other features. We need to bring people into the 64-bit world, but the tradeoffs aren't worth it right now. Businesses aren't asking for 64-bit." Source - Why there's no 64-bit Silverlight from Microsoft... yet
This might also answer why there's no 64-bit plug-in for Adobe Flash (yet) as well | My System Specs |
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18 Jan 2010
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case New England |
You would think after now 5yrs. time of having a 64bit edition of Windows with each version since XP Pro 64 and Silverlight being the latest item for Windows Live some type of plugin would be available. MS has been providing the 64bit platform while hardly anyone else is stepping upto the plate! | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case CPU AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 on new mini tower Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Mushkin on 2nd build Graphics Card MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower Sound Card Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer - Realtek onooard 2nd case Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer P191W 19" widesscreen - HP 20" widescreen mini towe Screen Resolution 1440x900 native - 1600x1024 on 7 Pro x64 build Keyboard Microsoft Recusa Razor - MS Comfort 3000 on second build Mouse MS Trackball Explorer - A4TECH dual scroll wheel trackball PSU Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second Case Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower Cooling Zalman CNPS9900A Hard Drives Primary Ultimate x64 build-
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18 Jan 2010
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Hampton VA |

Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk MS has been providing the 64bit platform while hardly anyone else is stepping upto the plate!  While I understand what you're saying, it's kind of hard to argue about 64-bit browser plug-in support when Microsoft themselves said they won't support it (yet).
If Microsoft won't supply a 64-bit version of their own plug-in to support their own 64-bit browser, well... | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by me OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-950 (3.06GHz) OC to 3.8GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 rev 1, F6 Bios Memory 12 gig Corsair DDR3 Dominator GT Memory (3X 4GB) Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD6950 2gig (Sapphire) Sound Card X-Fi Titanium Fatality Pro Monitor(s) Displays HP ZR22w 22" LCD Monitor Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech Wireless Wave Mouse Logitech Performance MX PSU Antec Signature - SG-850 Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Noctua NH-C12P SE14 Hard Drives Primary - OCZ Vertex 4 SSD (256GB). Storage - OCZ Vertex 2 SSD (120GB) & 2TB WD Caviar Black. Internet Speed High Speed Cable Other Info Memory Timings - 1600MHz @ 8-8-8-20-1T @ 1.640 volts |
19 Jan 2010
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case New England |
Plugins isn't the only thing being left out of the loop! This has been going for some time apparently. Neowin.net - Microsoft: No plans for 64-bit Silverlight 3
Just that first line alone from the old article seems to sum things up for the #4 beta version as well. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case CPU AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 on new mini tower Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Mushkin on 2nd build Graphics Card MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower Sound Card Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer - Realtek onooard 2nd case Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer P191W 19" widesscreen - HP 20" widescreen mini towe Screen Resolution 1440x900 native - 1600x1024 on 7 Pro x64 build Keyboard Microsoft Recusa Razor - MS Comfort 3000 on second build Mouse MS Trackball Explorer - A4TECH dual scroll wheel trackball PSU Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second Case Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower Cooling Zalman CNPS9900A Hard Drives Primary Ultimate x64 build-
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 6.0 = 2
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 3.0 = 2 (OS drives)
WD 1tb Green Power sata = 2 1 external
usb flash drives = 18
Second 7 Pro x64 mini tower-
WD Caviar SE 500gb sata II single drive presen Internet Speed 30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi |
19 Jan 2010
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#5 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 QC, Canada |
I think there would be more 64-bit browsers IF there was a 64-bit Flash.....
To me, Flash block all advancement. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom build OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 CPU Core i7 950 3.06 GHz Motherboard Gigabyte X58A-UD3R Memory Corsair XSM3 6GB 1333MHz DDR3 9-9-9-24 Graphics Card Asus nVidia GeForce GTX460 Factory Overclocked Sound Card HT-Omega Claro 7.1 Monitor(s) Displays Asus VW246H 24" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech K350 Mouse Logitech M510 PSU Xigmatek NRP-PC702 700W (cable hell) Case Lian-Li Lancool PC-K62 Cooling Stock fans for PC case, Cooler Master Hyper N520 for CPU Hard Drives 1x90GB OCZ Vertex 2 SSD (System, internal)
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19 Jan 2010
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#6 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 - Mac OS X 10.6.4 x64 North Carolina, United States of America |
Actually the real problem here is that no one wants to step up to the plate and offer 64-bit plug-ins...
Sun doesn't, Adobe doesn't, Microsoft doesn't...until someone does the telemetry is of course going to favor only 32-bit...seeing as folks want to use their plug-ins... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Compal JFT02 (Custom Build Laptop) OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 - Mac OS X 10.6.4 x64 CPU Intel Core 2 Duo T9300 2.5 GHz Motherboard JFT02 Memory 4GB Kingston DDR2-800 Graphics Card NVIDIA Geforce 8600M GT (512MB Model) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays WUXGA Standard Laptop Display Screen Resolution 1680*1050 Keyboard Standard Laptop 105 Key-Keyboard Mouse Synaptics Touchpad PSU Standard Laptop Power Supply Case Standard Laptop Case Cooling Standard Laptop Cooling Hard Drives Toshiba 320GB 5400RPM Laptop HD Internet Speed Verizion Online DSL 3360/864 kbs (dl/up) |
19 Jan 2010
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#7 | | Windows 7 Enterprise (x64); Windows Server 2008 R2 (x64) Earth - I wish I was on Risa |
If Microsoft would offer Silverlight in 64bit they will put Adobe out of business. Everyone I know in the Corp world has gone Window 7 64bit and wants IE 64bit because of security and because all the servers are now Windows Server 2008 R2 Terminal Server (64bit ONLY). TS is wonderful and more deployment means we in Corp need 64bit plug-ins. I don't know where MS gets its information from but they have not asked us or my fellow Crop friends. Between all of us that’s over 100,000 64bit installs, many trying to use IE 64bit as their only web browser. We are stuck with 32bit because of Flash and Silverlight. Come on Microsoft give us 64bit plug-ins. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell OP760 OS Windows 7 Enterprise (x64); Windows Server 2008 R2 (x64) Memory 8GB Monitor(s) Displays 2 Dell 19" LCD Screen Resolution 1280x1024 Keyboard Dell Mouse Dell Optical Internet Speed 40meg |
19 Jan 2010
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#8 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 - Mac OS X 10.6.4 x64 North Carolina, United States of America |

Quote: Originally Posted by WindowsStar If Microsoft would offer Silverlight in 64bit they will put Adobe out of business. Everyone I know in the Corp world has gone Window 7 64bit and wants IE 64bit because of security and because all the servers are now Windows Server 2008 R2 Terminal Server (64bit ONLY). TS is wonderful and more deployment means we in Corp need 64bit plug-ins. I don't know where MS gets its information from but they have not asked us or my fellow Crop friends. Between all of us that’s over 100,000 64bit installs, many trying to use IE 64bit as their only web browser. We are stuck with 32bit because of Flash and Silverlight. Come on Microsoft give us 64bit plug-ins. I think you mean...come on everyone
Seriously like I said above...it will only take one of them to step forward to see all the major plugins go 64-bit...
It is sad...Microsoft has the chance to be first at something and get ahead of the internet market that has been a major goal for them since the browser wars began and like their very lazy competitor Adobe they put it off for another day... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Compal JFT02 (Custom Build Laptop) OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 - Mac OS X 10.6.4 x64 CPU Intel Core 2 Duo T9300 2.5 GHz Motherboard JFT02 Memory 4GB Kingston DDR2-800 Graphics Card NVIDIA Geforce 8600M GT (512MB Model) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays WUXGA Standard Laptop Display Screen Resolution 1680*1050 Keyboard Standard Laptop 105 Key-Keyboard Mouse Synaptics Touchpad PSU Standard Laptop Power Supply Case Standard Laptop Case Cooling Standard Laptop Cooling Hard Drives Toshiba 320GB 5400RPM Laptop HD Internet Speed Verizion Online DSL 3360/864 kbs (dl/up) |
19 Jan 2010
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#9 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Hampton VA |
From posted article... Quote: The 64-bit conundrum
That might sound like a vicious circle, and it is; if you are using a 64-bit browser, you need to use 64-bit versions of all your plugins, and plugin makers aren't particularly eager to make 64-bit versions until 64-bit browsers start being used with some frequency. There are three key plugins that need to offer 64-bit versions before mainstream users can switch. In order of least important to most important, these are: Silverlight, Java, and Flash. I think this says it all as to why no one has stepped up to the 64-bit plug-in yet. Whether we like it or not, many many users are using 32-bit browsers, just like there are many many users still using 32-bit OS's. I personally think that if Adobe were to step up, things would start to change. Until then, snails pace. As stated in the article, Adobe doesn't really care if Micorsoft beats them to the punch here, Quote: But support for 64-bit browsers isn't something that can really be touted as a competitive advantage at this point in the game; it simply wouldn't faze Adobe to see the competition offer it. and I would agree, seeing that Flash is the most widely used plug-in for browsers and will continue for some time.
Bottom line, I think it's Adobe who needs to put pressure on the competition. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by me OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-950 (3.06GHz) OC to 3.8GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 rev 1, F6 Bios Memory 12 gig Corsair DDR3 Dominator GT Memory (3X 4GB) Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD6950 2gig (Sapphire) Sound Card X-Fi Titanium Fatality Pro Monitor(s) Displays HP ZR22w 22" LCD Monitor Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech Wireless Wave Mouse Logitech Performance MX PSU Antec Signature - SG-850 Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Noctua NH-C12P SE14 Hard Drives Primary - OCZ Vertex 4 SSD (256GB). Storage - OCZ Vertex 2 SSD (120GB) & 2TB WD Caviar Black. Internet Speed High Speed Cable Other Info Memory Timings - 1600MHz @ 8-8-8-20-1T @ 1.640 volts |
19 Jan 2010
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#10 | | Windows 7 32 bit build 7600 |
I don't think you guys don't get the point. Let's say 64 bit was implemented. But a large install base of 32 bit users can do exactly what they did before at the same rate they did before without having to change anything, you have to remember, for every person on this site and working in the ICT business caring about how technology advances and knowing exactly how their machines perform, there's a hell of a lot more people out there who are content with going on facebook and typing up reports with word processing software and never doing anything else. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP OS Windows 7 32 bit build 7600 CPU Intel 7400 2.78 GHz 3MB L2 Cache Motherboard Some crappy chipset Memory 2 x 2048 PC2 Graphics Card ATI HD 4350 Sound Card See motherboard Monitor(s) Displays HP 2159m and AOC 2236 PSU Bad Case bad Cooling bad Hard Drives Some hitachi thing Why there's no 64-bit Silverlight from Microsoft problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:44 PM. | |