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Windows 7: Windows 7 And The Bad Economy

22 Mar 2009   #11

Desktop: Windows XP Media Centre Edition SP2 32BIT Notebook: Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 32BIT
 
 

I wouldn't doubt it!

Apple products are over-priced and OS X doesn't have half the options as a Windows machine does. The only products that have EVER had any advantage over a competing product would be their iPod line... They take portable music too a whole new level.

As far as computers are, leave it at Windows. Although the fact I want to become a DJ I'm purchasing an OS X computer from Apple in the near future, their a lot better for music production and such from what I've heard.

Still,
Being 15 and knowing the difference between the Apple Computers and the Generic Windows Computers, you gotta compare. It'd be a whole different game if they put OS X and such on regular PC's but nope, you need to pay extra for a crappy computer that isn't even as easily upgraded as the next.

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22 Mar 2009   #12

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I use Windows for precisely the opposite reasons that Mac users use Macs. I like to fiddle with my computer. I don't want to have to buy peripherals and software from Apple. I like finding the best hardware to go with the best software for the best price and making it all work together. I will confess that I have purchased hardware that I knew in advance had quality software and drivers over another cheaper and perhaps better (at least on the spec sheet) option. So in that regard I am paying some homage to the OS I've chosen. There's more software choice for Windows which doesn't necessarily mean better software than Apple but statistically would indicate a tendency there toward. There are definitely less costly hardware options simply because seemingly only the premium hardware brands provide Mac support that works. I don't own a console game machine. Because of that, I appreciate the gaming options available within the Microsoft ecosystem. I've been known to sneak onto a CounterStrike:Source server and pwn the k1dd13s time and again even at my relatively advanced age. I also have a constrained technology budget and an unconstrained desire for said technology. Apple choices would curtail my options and that's why I'm a PC :-)

Oh, yeah. And I used to work as a software engineer for a top tier Apple ISV some years ago. Apple would think nothing of screwing the their ISVs whenever they got the chance as they, at least at that time, saw us as "leeches" and "meddlers". The only righteous choice comes from Apple or Adobe and if you can't do what you want with the solutions available there you probably shouldn't be doing it anyway.
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22 Mar 2009   #13

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by aoneofakind View Post
I wouldn't doubt it!

Apple products are over-priced and OS X doesn't have half the options as a Windows machine does. The only products that have EVER had any advantage over a competing product would be their iPod line... They take portable music too a whole new level.

As far as computers are, leave it at Windows. Although the fact I want to become a DJ I'm purchasing an OS X computer from Apple in the near future, their a lot better for music production and such from what I've heard.

Still,
Being 15 and knowing the difference between the Apple Computers and the Generic Windows Computers, you gotta compare. It'd be a whole different game if they put OS X and such on regular PC's but nope, you need to pay extra for a crappy computer that isn't even as easily upgraded as the next.
They are known as multimedia computers (video and picture editing) but they don't do much else.....

And you can put OSx on your PC with a Virtual PC. That way you can use a REAL computer to work on.

~Lordbob
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22 Mar 2009   #14

Windows 7
 
 

Ya Apple is overpriced,
But look at what they're giving you.
Top of the line equipment.
But what really sells a Mac is, just the whole Mac.

You see, OS X was put on a Mac and Mac only, so apple knew what kind of OS they should be making. They knew what drivers OS X was going to use and wasn't. They knew if OS X was capable of running on that machine.
So with that they gave a stable OS and a computer.
This also gives better Customer Support.
So much less headaches.

But if Microsoft did the same thing, I'm sure they would have a really good OS and computer.
Vista isn't so bad, I was using it, until I switched to Windows 7.
Sure there were some bugs, but i didn't find much that really annoyed me.
But I have had friends that bought PCs with Vista built into, where as the Machine shouldn't be running XP.

I think that is one of the major reasons why Vista didn't work for most people.
Microsoft didn't know what drivers were need so they just threw them all into the installation, and they didn't know what computer Vista was going to be installed on.

I heard rumors of Microsoft Stores, don't know if its true, or if they are going to start making they're own computers, but they should really start thinking of it.
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22 Mar 2009   #15

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ChudaPati09 View Post
Ya Apple is overpriced,
But look at what they're giving you.
Top of the line equipment.
But what really sells a Mac is, just the whole Mac.

You see, OS X was put on a Mac and Mac only, so apple knew what kind of OS they should be making. They knew what drivers OS X was going to use and wasn't. They knew if OS X was capable of running on that machine.
So with that they gave a stable OS and a computer.
This also gives better Customer Support.
So much less headaches.

But if Microsoft did the same thing, I'm sure they would have a really good OS and computer.
Vista isn't so bad, I was using it, until I switched to Windows 7.
Sure there were some bugs, but i didn't find much that really annoyed me.
But I have had friends that bought PCs with Vista built into, where as the Machine shouldn't be running XP.

I think that is one of the major reasons why Vista didn't work for most people.
Microsoft didn't know what drivers were need so they just threw them all into the installation, and they didn't know what computer Vista was going to be installed on.

I heard rumors of Microsoft Stores, don't know if its true, or if they are going to start making they're own computers, but they should really start thinking of it.
First off, Apple computers are NOT made top of the line. Get over it. (Not saying that M$ computers are any better, and some are worse)

Second, they released Vista too early. Their driver data base was not as built up as it should have been, and there were other problems that are resolved in Seven (often Seven is viewed as what Vista SHOULD have been).

Third, the M$ Store, (I think) is true? I have heard it too, but I don't remember.

~Lordbob
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23 Mar 2009   #16

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lordbob75 View Post
First off, Apple computers are NOT made top of the line.
+1 They can be high-end, but do not enjoy a cutting edge monopoly.

Quote:
Second, they released Vista too early.
Announced it far too early, promised too much and then delivered too little upon release


Even though Apple Computing products are ridiculously overpriced, they kind of have to be. They have to make the same amount of money from one customer that MS makes off two. (you get the idea )

A bad economy will only put a temporary dent in sales.
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23 Mar 2009   #17

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

Macs look nice, but its about time people saw them for what they are. I've never been interested in their hardware due to the fact I could build the same PC for far cheaper.

But, I don't see them vanishing, people like them too much, and aside from their PC side of things, the iPod will keep them alive if nothing else.
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