| Windows 7: Windows 7 And The Bad Economy |
21 Mar 2009
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#1 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 Newport, South Wales, UK |
Windows 7 And The Bad Economy Latest Sales figures show Apple sales falling ... Quote: Windows 7 And The Bad Economy Will Kill Apple Sales Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer believes the bubble is about to burst on Apple in a big way as the global economy continues to suffer a synchronized meltdown.
Apple has racked up some impressive sales numbers in recent years on the back of the success of its iPod and iPhone products in the consumer space. However, with confidence shattered, job losses mounting, tightening credit markets, and fear engulfing the purchasing decisions of consumers and corporations alike - luxury purchases are increasingly looking a thing of the past.
“Apple gained about one point, but now I think the tide has really turned back the other direction,” Ballmer said in a Webcast earlier this week. “The economy is helpful. Paying an extra $500 for a computer in this environment — same piece of hardware — paying $500 more to get a logo on it? I think that’s a more challenging proposition for the average person than it used to be.” Full Story .... Windows 7 And The Bad Economy Will Kill Apple Sales ~ Tackling Technology | My System Specs |
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21 Mar 2009
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#2 | | Windows 7 Professional 64-bit |
He could be right because Apple charge over the odds for their stuff | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number self built OS Windows 7 Professional 64-bit CPU Intel E8400 3GHz Motherboard Intel DX48BT2 Memory Kingston PC3-10700H 4Gb Graphics Card XFX Radeon HD 5850 BlackEd. Sound Card Asus Xonar DG Monitor(s) Displays 2x Samsung SM-T220HD 22" Screen Resolution 1680x1050 on two monitors Keyboard Microsoft Comfort Curve USB Mouse Razer Diamondback 3G PSU Thermaltake ToughPower 850w Case Thermaltake Armor Cooling Scythe Mugen II Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 2 120gb 3.5" (OS)
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21 Mar 2009
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#3 | | Vista Ult 64 bit Seven Ult RTM x64 Maine, USA |
I think it depends a lot on how long the economy is down. Apple won't go out of business, but market share will drop if the economy stays bad long enough. Most apple fans will simply put off buying a new comp. rather than give up their OS. They mention that Apple is down 16.7%, but no mention of how much MS is down. There have been MS layoffs so things must be down considerably there also. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell XPS420 OS Vista Ult 64 bit Seven Ult RTM x64 CPU Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 2.40 gigahertz Memory Crucial Ballistix 4x2GB PC2 6400 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS 256 MB Sound Card Creative SB X-Fi audio Monitor(s) Displays HP w2207 + HPvs15 Screen Resolution 1680x1050 + 1024x768 Keyboard Microsoft Comfort Curve Mouse MX Revolution Hard Drives 2-WD5000AAKS-500 GB
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21 Mar 2009
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 Newport, South Wales, UK |
Hello Swarf
Hello Gary,
The strange thing is that In the same period quoted in this article PC sales actually rose - I did actually post the details in answer to another post but can't find my source at the moment. Of course PC doesn't mean Microsoft directly but in real terms good for PC is Good for MS | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Real World Computing (Me + a little help from Acer) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1035T 2.6 GHz Motherboard Aspire M3400 Memory 4Gb PC10600 DDR3 1333 MHz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 315 512MB Sound Card OnBoard - Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Philips 32" HDTV, (HDMI) + 26" TV (VGA) Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 @60Hz + 1360 x 768 @60Hz Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) Mouse Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) PSU Stock (400W) Case Acer M3400 Cooling Stock Hard Drives 500 GB Seagate ST3500418AS SATA II
1 TB Hitachi HDS5C1010CLA382 SATAII
1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F1 HD103SI SATA II (external)
Plus various other (client ) HDDs as needed Internet Speed Temporaray 3G Dongle Antivirus Avast Browser Chrome Other Info USB Capture + Webcam(s) Bamboo Digitizer tablet
Also run Acer AspireOne 530h Netbook, Dual Core Atom + 1GB (Win7 Ult x86) Plus various test systems for new projects |
21 Mar 2009
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 Newport, South Wales, UK |
| My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Real World Computing (Me + a little help from Acer) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1035T 2.6 GHz Motherboard Aspire M3400 Memory 4Gb PC10600 DDR3 1333 MHz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 315 512MB Sound Card OnBoard - Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Philips 32" HDTV, (HDMI) + 26" TV (VGA) Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 @60Hz + 1360 x 768 @60Hz Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) Mouse Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) PSU Stock (400W) Case Acer M3400 Cooling Stock Hard Drives 500 GB Seagate ST3500418AS SATA II
1 TB Hitachi HDS5C1010CLA382 SATAII
1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F1 HD103SI SATA II (external)
Plus various other (client ) HDDs as needed Internet Speed Temporaray 3G Dongle Antivirus Avast Browser Chrome Other Info USB Capture + Webcam(s) Bamboo Digitizer tablet
Also run Acer AspireOne 530h Netbook, Dual Core Atom + 1GB (Win7 Ult x86) Plus various test systems for new projects |
21 Mar 2009
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#6 | | Vista Ult 64 bit Seven Ult RTM x64 Maine, USA |
Hi Nigel,
Thanks for reminding me. I had forgotten about that. A senior moment. The graphics there look very good for MS. I think the final release of Windows 7 will also give PC sales a boost. Market share wise, I'm thinking PC's will gain back the losses of the recent past and then some. As the article says, no netbook for Apple will cost them in this economy. Most people don't need a powerhouse machine to surf the net and send email. If I didn't want to do video editing, I would probably still be using W2K on my old machine. It did what I wanted otherwise. Had to reboot it more than Vista or 7, but that wasn't a big enough problem to spend $1000+ to fix. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell XPS420 OS Vista Ult 64 bit Seven Ult RTM x64 CPU Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 2.40 gigahertz Memory Crucial Ballistix 4x2GB PC2 6400 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS 256 MB Sound Card Creative SB X-Fi audio Monitor(s) Displays HP w2207 + HPvs15 Screen Resolution 1680x1050 + 1024x768 Keyboard Microsoft Comfort Curve Mouse MX Revolution Hard Drives 2-WD5000AAKS-500 GB
WD5000AAV-500 GB external Other Info Wacom Intuos 2 Graphics Tablet
Experience Index=5.5 |
21 Mar 2009
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 Newport, South Wales, UK |
The Apple enthusiasts will buy Apple kit as long as Apple make it, and the Apple haters will never buy from them.
Where the swing to apple has occurred in the past year or so is with the people who just want a computer and Apple's marketing both, positive and by association with the iPod and iPhone, and negative anti Vista have been effective.
Now that money is tighter and the positive windows 7 buzz is starting to get into the wider world I think that Apple will fall back to their "normal" niche market share.
Apple themselves don't class themselves as a Computer company anymore but as a consumer electronics manufacturer so I suppose that indicates what apple consider their most important product iPod & iPhone
Time will tell | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Real World Computing (Me + a little help from Acer) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1035T 2.6 GHz Motherboard Aspire M3400 Memory 4Gb PC10600 DDR3 1333 MHz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 315 512MB Sound Card OnBoard - Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Philips 32" HDTV, (HDMI) + 26" TV (VGA) Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 @60Hz + 1360 x 768 @60Hz Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) Mouse Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) PSU Stock (400W) Case Acer M3400 Cooling Stock Hard Drives 500 GB Seagate ST3500418AS SATA II
1 TB Hitachi HDS5C1010CLA382 SATAII
1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F1 HD103SI SATA II (external)
Plus various other (client ) HDDs as needed Internet Speed Temporaray 3G Dongle Antivirus Avast Browser Chrome Other Info USB Capture + Webcam(s) Bamboo Digitizer tablet
Also run Acer AspireOne 530h Netbook, Dual Core Atom + 1GB (Win7 Ult x86) Plus various test systems for new projects |
21 Mar 2009
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#8 | | Windows 8 Pro x64 Delhi , India |
Well in Microsoft Vs Apple or i would say Windows Vs Mac we should not forget the open source. French police: we saved millions of euros by adopting Ubuntu
A recent report has revealed that France's national police force has saved an estimated 50 million euros since 2004 by adopting open source software and migrating a portion of the organization's workstations to Ubuntu Linux. They plan to roll out the Linux distro to all 90,000 of their workstations by 2015.
Source : French police: we saved millions of euros by adopting Ubuntu - Ars Technica
Looks like the open source wonder is already saving millions in this bad economic times. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Customised OS Windows 8 Pro x64 CPU i5 Processor 2320 3.0GHz Motherboard Intel DH67BL Memory 8 GB DDR2 Graphics Card Internal Intel HD Sound Card Realtek Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 22inch LED Monitor Screen Resolution 1920 * 1080 Keyboard Logitech Wireless K220 Mouse Logitech Wireless K220 PSU Cooler Master Glite Power 350w Case Cooler Master Cooling Cooler Master Glite Power Hard Drives 1TB Seagate, 2TB Seagate, 2TB WD Internet Speed 2 MBPS Other Info Microsoft Office 2010 Pro Plus |
21 Mar 2009
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#9 | | W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi Hafnarfjörður IS |
Some Netbooks are even given away "FREE" (provided you take out a 3-G mobile connect phone subscription). These "Free netbooks" are usually (but not always) windows XP equipped.
"Free" of course is not quite "Free" but there are some good deals to be had like this -- and of course you can get incredibly cheap hardware "if you roll your own".
With Apple -- it's usually buy it as it comes or "Tough Womens Body parts" .
Have to say just for great LOOKS Apple does a grand job but if you need something Cheap and functional Windows has it --and in this market that is what counts.
Apple won't go out of business -- same way as Ferrari won't either but both will be "Niche Players".
Cheers
(OT -- Man United messed it up big time again today -- Now Liverpool have a REAL chance on Sunday to catch up)
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22 Mar 2009
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#10 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9 In the Crust |
Apple makes some great products, but ruins it by charging about 500% what it is worth. If you compare a PC and a Mac with the same specs (give or take a little) and the PC is not made by Dell, then the Mac is DEFINITELY more expensive. (varies)
I didn't actually do the math (too lazy to really look), but if someone wants to check it out, please let me know (or I will let you know if I get around to doing it).
While I use an iPod Touch and its GREAT, I did jailbreak it so I can get something really good on it. The App Store kind of sucks.
Good music player too.
~Lordbob | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Hera OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9 CPU Intel i5-2500k Motherboard ASUS P8P67 Pro Memory 2x 4Gb Corsair VENGEANCE DDR3-1600 Graphics Card NVidia GeForce N260GTX Twin Frozr Sound Card Realtek HD OnBoard Audio Monitor(s) Displays ASUS 24" Monitor Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Razer Tarantula Mouse Razer Lachesis PSU Cooler Master Real Power Pro 750W Case Cooler Master Haf 932 Cooling Fans Hard Drives G.SKILL Phoenix Series 60GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
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