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  1. Posts : 529
    windows 8.1 Pro x64
       #150

    guys try and work this out as I wondered how my pc is using 4.2gig of ram.

    All my apps ram utilisations adds up to 2.2 gig.
    My file cache is just 134 meg (thought was way bigger since windows reports 2 gig cached).
    This is 2.3-4 gig used.

    Task manager reports 4.2 gig physical ram used, 4.6 gig commit (400 meg swapped). The breakdown of ram usage is
    total 6143
    cached 2021
    available 2058
    free 28

    seems cached is misleading and is ram put on standby for cache use and is actually available to apps.
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  2. Posts : 3,427
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       #151

    yes it is, what your seeing is the effects of "superfetch" it caches what isnt in use (as epty ram is useless ram) but if an app needs it it will just write it over the top, you should pay attention to whats "available" not free, having said that, if your apps are only 2.2Gig, then i reckon your OS is using about a gig more ram than it should (based on my own figures, mine eventually settles down to about 1.1 in use including AV)
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  3. Posts : 3,300
    Win7 Home Premium 64x
       #152

    Hmm I agree with severdsolo, Mine is usually 1.4g. 2.2 is alittle high.

    Edit: mine has little running at startup. Your programs that are set up might be fine, just more resources used.
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  4. Posts : 529
    windows 8.1 Pro x64
       #153

    well here is my info from task manager.

    and I just closed opera and firefox so was a gig higher usage before this.

    3.57gig physical ram used. 4.38gig commit

    1st column is name of process, 2nd column is working set delta, 3rd column is private working set, 4th column is commit size.

    I am providing all these as I am not sure exactly shows the real ram usage. All figures in kbytes.

    iexplore.exe 203,916 150,336 189,000
    iexplore.exe 170,204 128,492 157,304
    iexplore.exe 163,112 121,328 151,916
    iexplore.exe 158,340 126,960 160,280
    outlook.exe 158,008 71,172 84,068
    explorer.exe 137,704 59,716 106,716
    acrord32.exe 124,956 87,124 118,880
    winword.exe 107,608 31,548 43,452
    securecrt.exe 90,952 70,532 74,908
    mmc.exe 78,988 48,300 78,592
    securecrt.exe 78,224 52,692 59,608
    ekrn.exe 56,124 47,968 49,432
    iexplore.exe 47,640 14,000 20,072
    svchost.exe 45,788 23,696 31,536
    consolcu.exe 42,732 28,020 33,212
    nvcplui.exe 41,124 13,756 16,440
    excel.exe 40,052 7,144 16,964
    iexplore.exe 39,616 9,680 11,888
    iexplore.exe 38,576 9,124 10,436
    iexplore.exe 38,324 9,624 13,592
    mirc.exe 37,936 8,364 11,944
    csrss.exe 37,916 9,372 10,140
    iexplore.exe 36,564 9,292 10,644
    iexplore.exe 36,248 7,764 9,360
    iexplore.exe 35,988 8,472 9,912
    securecrt.exe 33,396 9,532 13,888
    notepad.exe 30,364 8,368 11,816
    notepad.exe 29,704 7,600 10,928
    wlcomm.exe 29,264 14,040 20,712
    notepad.exe 28,996 8,500 12,592
    svchost.exe 28,888 16,840 22,620
    mmc.exe 26,756 4,144 9,044
    iexplore.exe 25,520 6,980 9,828
    ctxfispi.exe 24,676 14,256 19,956
    egui.exe 24,660 5,508 8,036
    svchost.exe 24,628 14,464 22,080
    taskmgr.exe 20,404 5,028 6,488
    keepass.exe 19,492 5,480 6,492
    svchost.exe 18,268 8,624 10,908
    msnmsgr.exe 17,880 13,360 82,408
    svchost.exe 17,172 6,404 8,496
    lwemon.exe 15,182 4,004 5,164
    taskhost.exe 15516 2788 8296
    svchost.exe 15404 7876 10856
    volpanu.exe 15156 6776 11628
    svchost.exe 14324 5668 6864
    notepad.exe 14020 1272 1520
    lsass.exe 12560 4900 5540
    spoolsv.exe 12020 4920 6984
    svchost.exe 11660 7068 7620
    notepad.exe 11444 1124 1384
    flashutil10d.exe 11096 3324 3620
    notepad.exe 10768 1168 1424
    notepad.exe 10632 1124 1376
    notepad.exe 10624 1248 1500
    notepad.exe 10112 1124 1380
    alwaysontop.exe 9340 1224 2632
    svchost.exe 9144 3500 4456
    ctxfihlp.exe 8888 2284 2788
    services.exe 8828 4664 5272
    jusched.exe 8316 2272 2628
    dllhost.exe 7992 2528 3176
    rundll32.exe 7580 2140 2688
    winlogon.exe 7332 2304 2876
    conhost.exe 7192 1444 1872
    splwow64.exe 7124 2728 3248
    rundll32.exe 6384 1868 2156
    system 6032 72 120
    lsm.exe 5804 2124 3064
    activator.exe 5568 1104 1344
    7 taskbar tweaker x64.exe 5556 1268 1508
    dumetersvc.exe 5536 3256 7716
    svchost.exe 5104 1396 1808
    psxss.exe 5024 2072 2688
    notiman.exe 4952 1044 1248
    csrss.exe 4672 1824 3216
    dumeter.exe 4420 1220 7420
    ctaudsvc.exe 4152 1016 1308
    wininit.exe 4076 1136 1480
    nvvsvc.exe 3480 1124 1272
    cmd.exe 2864 928 2240
    ielowutil.exe 1484 652 1365
    smss.exe 1072 380 456
    system idle process 24 24 0

    few notes

    1 - ordered by working set delta
    2 - stopped typing , inside numbers as was slowing down too much
    3 - notepad.exe is metapad I replaced the basic one and yes am running multiple instances.
    4 - is a 64bit system and most of these processes are 32bit

    anyone adding these up will notice none of the 3 columns come anywhere near close to the reported total usage so I am curious if I have a memory leak somewhere, perhaps in a driver.
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  5. Posts : 565
    Windows 7 Home Premium x64
       #154

    chrysalis said:
    well here is my info from task manager.

    and I just closed opera and firefox so was a gig higher usage before this.

    3.57gig physical ram used. 4.38gig commit

    1st column is name of process, 2nd column is working set delta, 3rd column is private working set, 4th column is commit size.

    I am providing all these as I am not sure exactly shows the real ram usage. All figures in kbytes.

    iexplore.exe 203,916 150,336 189,000
    iexplore.exe 170,204 128,492 157,304
    iexplore.exe 163,112 121,328 151,916
    iexplore.exe 158,340 126,960 160,280
    outlook.exe 158,008 71,172 84,068
    explorer.exe 137,704 59,716 106,716
    acrord32.exe 124,956 87,124 118,880
    winword.exe 107,608 31,548 43,452
    securecrt.exe 90,952 70,532 74,908
    mmc.exe 78,988 48,300 78,592
    securecrt.exe 78,224 52,692 59,608
    ekrn.exe 56,124 47,968 49,432
    iexplore.exe 47,640 14,000 20,072
    svchost.exe 45,788 23,696 31,536
    consolcu.exe 42,732 28,020 33,212
    nvcplui.exe 41,124 13,756 16,440
    excel.exe 40,052 7,144 16,964
    iexplore.exe 39,616 9,680 11,888
    iexplore.exe 38,576 9,124 10,436
    iexplore.exe 38,324 9,624 13,592
    mirc.exe 37,936 8,364 11,944
    csrss.exe 37,916 9,372 10,140
    iexplore.exe 36,564 9,292 10,644
    iexplore.exe 36,248 7,764 9,360
    iexplore.exe 35,988 8,472 9,912
    securecrt.exe 33,396 9,532 13,888
    notepad.exe 30,364 8,368 11,816
    notepad.exe 29,704 7,600 10,928
    wlcomm.exe 29,264 14,040 20,712
    notepad.exe 28,996 8,500 12,592
    svchost.exe 28,888 16,840 22,620
    mmc.exe 26,756 4,144 9,044
    iexplore.exe 25,520 6,980 9,828
    ctxfispi.exe 24,676 14,256 19,956
    egui.exe 24,660 5,508 8,036
    svchost.exe 24,628 14,464 22,080
    taskmgr.exe 20,404 5,028 6,488
    keepass.exe 19,492 5,480 6,492
    svchost.exe 18,268 8,624 10,908
    msnmsgr.exe 17,880 13,360 82,408
    svchost.exe 17,172 6,404 8,496
    lwemon.exe 15,182 4,004 5,164
    taskhost.exe 15516 2788 8296
    svchost.exe 15404 7876 10856
    volpanu.exe 15156 6776 11628
    svchost.exe 14324 5668 6864
    notepad.exe 14020 1272 1520
    lsass.exe 12560 4900 5540
    spoolsv.exe 12020 4920 6984
    svchost.exe 11660 7068 7620
    notepad.exe 11444 1124 1384
    flashutil10d.exe 11096 3324 3620
    notepad.exe 10768 1168 1424
    notepad.exe 10632 1124 1376
    notepad.exe 10624 1248 1500
    notepad.exe 10112 1124 1380
    alwaysontop.exe 9340 1224 2632
    svchost.exe 9144 3500 4456
    ctxfihlp.exe 8888 2284 2788
    services.exe 8828 4664 5272
    jusched.exe 8316 2272 2628
    dllhost.exe 7992 2528 3176
    rundll32.exe 7580 2140 2688
    winlogon.exe 7332 2304 2876
    conhost.exe 7192 1444 1872
    splwow64.exe 7124 2728 3248
    rundll32.exe 6384 1868 2156
    system 6032 72 120
    lsm.exe 5804 2124 3064
    activator.exe 5568 1104 1344
    7 taskbar tweaker x64.exe 5556 1268 1508
    dumetersvc.exe 5536 3256 7716
    svchost.exe 5104 1396 1808
    psxss.exe 5024 2072 2688
    notiman.exe 4952 1044 1248
    csrss.exe 4672 1824 3216
    dumeter.exe 4420 1220 7420
    ctaudsvc.exe 4152 1016 1308
    wininit.exe 4076 1136 1480
    nvvsvc.exe 3480 1124 1272
    cmd.exe 2864 928 2240
    ielowutil.exe 1484 652 1365
    smss.exe 1072 380 456
    system idle process 24 24 0

    few notes

    1 - ordered by working set delta
    2 - stopped typing , inside numbers as was slowing down too much
    3 - notepad.exe is metapad I replaced the basic one and yes am running multiple instances.
    4 - is a 64bit system and most of these processes are 32bit

    anyone adding these up will notice none of the 3 columns come anywhere near close to the reported total usage so I am curious if I have a memory leak somewhere, perhaps in a driver.
    Most of what you have running are applications and not processes running in Windows by default. You have numerous Internet Explorer windows/tabs open, Adobe Acrobat, Word, Outlook, Notepad, Excel, mIRC...

    You are doing that to the computer itself.
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  6. Posts : 529
    windows 8.1 Pro x64
       #155

    I know they my applications. I listed it so people can see or maybe not see why high ram is utilised. Since we have people claiming its hard to use high amounts of ram.

    However do you have an answer as to why I am using around 4 gig of ram?

    add the total up for all the apps.
    then add the 134meg for file cache.
    then there is unaccounted memory, is there a 2nd cache for something else?
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  7. Posts : 27
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
       #156

    can any one see any problems with what i have running some of them i have no idea what there doing lol
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Most Windows 7 PCs max out memory.-untitled.jpg  
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  8. Posts : 565
    Windows 7 Home Premium x64
       #157

    chrysalis said:
    I know they my applications. I listed it so people can see or maybe not see why high ram is utilised. Since we have people claiming its hard to use high amounts of ram.

    However do you have an answer as to why I am using around 4 gig of ram?

    add the total up for all the apps.
    then add the 134meg for file cache.
    then there is unaccounted memory, is there a 2nd cache for something else?
    Are you serious? Look at a giant chunk of your top processes...

    iexplore.exe 203,916 150,336 189,000
    iexplore.exe 170,204 128,492 157,304
    iexplore.exe 163,112 121,328 151,916
    iexplore.exe 158,340 126,960 160,280
    outlook.exe 158,008 71,172 84,068
    explorer.exe 137,704 59,716 106,716
    acrord32.exe 124,956 87,124 118,880
    winword.exe 107,608 31,548 43,452
    securecrt.exe 90,952 70,532 74,908
    mmc.exe 78,988 48,300 78,592
    securecrt.exe 78,224 52,692 59,608
    ekrn.exe 56,124 47,968 49,432
    iexplore.exe 47,640 14,000 20,072
    svchost.exe 45,788 23,696 31,536
    consolcu.exe 42,732 28,020 33,212
    nvcplui.exe 41,124 13,756 16,440
    excel.exe 40,052 7,144 16,964
    iexplore.exe 39,616 9,680 11,888
    iexplore.exe 38,576 9,124 10,436
    iexplore.exe 38,324 9,624 13,592
    mirc.exe 37,936 8,364 11,944

    The running processes from applications YOU are running or programs you installed and have background processes are eating up 1.6GB RAM right there! Not sure why you have a Microsoft Management Console (mmc.exe) open either.
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  9. Posts : 529
    windows 8.1 Pro x64
       #158

    of course I am serious, thats 1.6gig but the rest add up to barely another few hundred meg.

    if you going to try and give me a maths lesson try adding the entire list together.

    You seem to have a problem with me running apps? arent I allowed to run mmc and applications on my machine?
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  10. Posts : 1,289
       #159

    chrysalis said:
    of course I am serious, thats 1.6gig but the rest add up to barely another few hundred meg.

    if you going to try and give me a maths lesson try adding the entire list together.

    You seem to have a problem with me running apps? arent I allowed to run mmc and applications on my machine?
    Little hint here Chrysalis, Your only showing and counting the Private Working Set column and it doesnt show the full allocation used by that process. It might be an idea to enable Memory - Working Set and Memory - Commit Size columns before you start having a go at others
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