| Windows 7: ACTA leak: ISPs to be bound by new rules |
08 Mar 2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by Lee I think we knew or least had an idea this just might happen. We have seen Pirate Bay, and Mininova, come down. It looks as if Canada's ISO Hunt is next on the blocks. Whether, we think it is unfair is not the issue; the issue is that there are copyright laws in almost every country, and these laws are there to protect those who put a great deal of time and money into a project. The effort may be a song, a book, an invention, or just a toy. Albeit it took someone time to put it together, hence, they should be protected from individuals who would steal that idea.
No matter how you word it, and attempt to make it right stealing someone else's intellectual work is wrong. 
Quote: Originally Posted by RST101 Sorry I don't agree.
Copyright infringement has been going on for as long as material has been produced. Is it any different to recording tv shows off the television? Is it any different from recording the chart hits off the radio when you were a kid? Absolutely not.
This is not about protecting the artists and their work this is about lining the wallets of the people the are signed too. Most of the time the artist doesn't even see a penny of what they recoup from their bullying tactics and more often than not don't even know that their name is being used in this campaign to target vulnerable people.
So is it ok to destroy someone life with fines of millions of pounds/dollars for the download of a single movie/film that is not worth the price we pay for them?
I agree the artist needs to be paid but it the corporations behind these artist that are the issue here.
By the way the pirate bay is still up and running and not down. people need to stop ignoring the obvious(lee). as i have stated time and time again during the years when music piracy was at it's highest so were music sales at their highest. now this year music sales are down and guess what music piracy is down this year. for the last two years movie piracy has seen their largest years and guess what the movie industry has had the two most profitable years ever. i do not buy coincidence. like it or not controversy sells. piracy is the new pr because it is controversial. rst101 is right. | My System Specs |
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08 Mar 2010
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#12 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64. Ellesmere Port, UK. |

Quote: Originally Posted by Lee As I said, thieves will always find a way to prove they are right, and no better what everyone else is wrong. They will attempt to prove themselves to be nice people by finding a way to lie their way out of a situation regardless of how wrong it is. "It is not fair that Microsoft makes all that money, and I don't get any of it, so I will steal their property, and that goes for Adobe, and Corel, etc.." "They owe the people (me) for just being here." Get my point.
So have you never recorded shows of tv or the chart hits when you were younger? Maybe on cassette tapes from your mates bedroom? Because if you never you must be the only person in the world not to have done so.
I guess were all thieves according to your logic. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build. OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64. CPU i5 760 @ 4.2Ghz. 1.18v Motherboard Gigabyte - H55M-USB3 Memory 4g Corsair xms3 ddr3, 1600Mhz. Graphics Card Gigabyte GTX-560Ti soc edition Sound Card Asus Xonar Dx - Logitech Z5500. Monitor(s) Displays Acer 22" LCD Wide screen 1680-1050 -Samsung 42" Plasma.... Screen Resolution 1680/1050 -----1920/1080p. Keyboard Logitech G15-v2 Gaming. Mouse Microsoft Sidewinder X8. PSU XigmaTek 80plus NRP-PC702 - 700w dual 30a. Case Venus Gamers Midi Tower Case with LED Display Cooling Arctic Freezer 7 Pro Rev 2... x2 Arctic F8 case fans........ Hard Drives 2x 2TB Seagate Go Flex,
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08 Mar 2010
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#13 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 Cromer Norfolk UK |
every body has done it at some point, whether its taping something off tv etc. as previously mentioned,
have you ever tried to get a refund on a piece of software? good luck. to use the car analogy, if the manufacturor puts a new piece of software into your car (as so many cars are 90% computer nowadays) and it results in the car being undrivable, the manufacturor have to replace/refund under warranty, companies who sell dogy buggy software for PC have no such obligations, its just:
SOftware Company "tough, should have read the EULA"
Me: "but its on the inside of the box, i had to buy it to read it"
SC "and thats our problem why?",
so i can see the "piracy as marketing" thing, but i cant justify it if said pirate has no intention of buying the software, that admittedly is wrong | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz Motherboard Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz Memory 8GB 1333Mhz DDR3 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Realtek Monitor(s) Displays Acer Al1980, Screen Resolution 1360*768 Keyboard Alba USB Mouse IT Works Wireless USB PSU 750W Cooler Master Case Cooler Master Haf X Cooling Cooler Master Hyper TX3 Hard Drives 500GB SATA WBC
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08 Mar 2010
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The masses and majority lose money and rights because of the minority and few. | My System Specs | | |
08 Mar 2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by dmex The masses and majority lose money and rights because of the minority and few.  the minority and few being the greedy companies, RIGHT................... | My System Specs | | |
08 Mar 2010
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#16 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64. Ellesmere Port, UK. |

Quote: Originally Posted by Staple Head 
Quote: Originally Posted by dmex The masses and majority lose money and rights because of the minority and few.  the majority and few being the greedy companies, RIGHT................... RIGHT!
But it's not just about greed.
The power to control the people and what they buy. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build. OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64. CPU i5 760 @ 4.2Ghz. 1.18v Motherboard Gigabyte - H55M-USB3 Memory 4g Corsair xms3 ddr3, 1600Mhz. Graphics Card Gigabyte GTX-560Ti soc edition Sound Card Asus Xonar Dx - Logitech Z5500. Monitor(s) Displays Acer 22" LCD Wide screen 1680-1050 -Samsung 42" Plasma.... Screen Resolution 1680/1050 -----1920/1080p. Keyboard Logitech G15-v2 Gaming. Mouse Microsoft Sidewinder X8. PSU XigmaTek 80plus NRP-PC702 - 700w dual 30a. Case Venus Gamers Midi Tower Case with LED Display Cooling Arctic Freezer 7 Pro Rev 2... x2 Arctic F8 case fans........ Hard Drives 2x 2TB Seagate Go Flex,
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08 Mar 2010
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#17 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 Cromer Norfolk UK |
i seem to remember hearing of a case where the person being accused couldnt be convicted because they had their wireless security disabled so the prosecution couldnt prove their connection wasnt being hijacked | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz Motherboard Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz Memory 8GB 1333Mhz DDR3 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Realtek Monitor(s) Displays Acer Al1980, Screen Resolution 1360*768 Keyboard Alba USB Mouse IT Works Wireless USB PSU 750W Cooler Master Case Cooler Master Haf X Cooling Cooler Master Hyper TX3 Hard Drives 500GB SATA WBC
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08 Mar 2010
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#18 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64. Ellesmere Port, UK. |
I wonder whether ALL the proceeds of this single go to the suffering of haiti or whether the pockets get lined?
Answers on a postcard. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build. OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64. CPU i5 760 @ 4.2Ghz. 1.18v Motherboard Gigabyte - H55M-USB3 Memory 4g Corsair xms3 ddr3, 1600Mhz. Graphics Card Gigabyte GTX-560Ti soc edition Sound Card Asus Xonar Dx - Logitech Z5500. Monitor(s) Displays Acer 22" LCD Wide screen 1680-1050 -Samsung 42" Plasma.... Screen Resolution 1680/1050 -----1920/1080p. Keyboard Logitech G15-v2 Gaming. Mouse Microsoft Sidewinder X8. PSU XigmaTek 80plus NRP-PC702 - 700w dual 30a. Case Venus Gamers Midi Tower Case with LED Display Cooling Arctic Freezer 7 Pro Rev 2... x2 Arctic F8 case fans........ Hard Drives 2x 2TB Seagate Go Flex,
1x 1TB Seagate,
1x 640WD Black,
x16 Gig sandisc flash drive,
1x8Gig sandisc flash drive. Internet Speed Virgin Media - 50mb down- 8mb up. Other Info x2 Xbox 360 wireless controllers...
Dual layer optical disc drive...
Chrome 79million
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08 Mar 2010
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#19 | | Win 7 Pro x64, VM Win XP, Win7 Pro Sandbox, Kubuntu 11 Fruitland, Idaho |
Again RST101 you have proven my point. If I cannot prove it is right then I will blame someone else. I will point out how stupid they are my saying they recorded a movie or television show (sorry never owned a VHS or Beta machine).
If that doesn't work then lets point out the greedy corporations. If it wasn't for them we wouldn't need to steal their products. They set the prices to high, so in order for us lowly peasants to get some of their products we have to steal it that is the only way we will ever get what we want. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion a4302f OS Win 7 Pro x64, VM Win XP, Win7 Pro Sandbox, Kubuntu 11 CPU AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 640 @ 3.0 Gbz Memory 12GB 1066MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x4GB, 2x2GB Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 4350 HD Graphics/Audio with 512MB Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays 1. Dell 23" SP2307, 2. Mitsublishi 40" HDTV, Hannspree 25" Screen Resolution 1. 2048x1152, 2. 1920-1080, 3. 1920x1200 Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 2000 Mouse Microsoft Wireless Mouse 5000 Case Mid Tower Cooling Standard Fans - 5 fans (very quiet) Hard Drives Int: 1 120 Gig SSD i
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08 Mar 2010
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#20 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by Lee Again RST101 you have proven my point. If I cannot prove it is right then I will blame someone else. I will point out how stupid they are my saying they recorded a movie or television show (sorry never owned a VHS or Beta machine).
If that doesn't work then lets point out the greedy corporations. If it wasn't for them we wouldn't need to steal their products. They set the prices to high, so in order for us lowly peasants to get some of their products we have to steal it that is the only way we will ever get what we want. lee the only one that seems to be unable to have a civil conversation about the issue is you. this is the second tread that i have had to chide you on. | My System Specs | | ACTA leak: ISPs to be bound by new rules problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:54 AM. | |