Microsoft: Don't Download Windows 7 from Torrents

Well we keep trying even if you forgot a few!

As far as a buggy leak and then immediate response with an MS warning to follow you could say that the contraversy started could easily act as free publicity or simply a well spoken common sense plea not to trust what is seen on torrents since many appear to be flooding into the beta forum and being told ... "sorry!"

All this stuff is unsupported since it wasn't directly approved as the 7000 builds were for public consumption! The only people that should even be considering jumping on any random "leak" or whatever are experienced users who already know enough to dump any bogus or bug filled bloinder they run across while the novice would get stumped!

For those who signed up originally for testing the 7000s the MS caution then was to protect your existing main OS like seeing 7 go on a separate drive or system in case of... "ccccrashhhh..." !!! Grrr...!!!

Now download something thats been through the hackmill and bug infested like one 7057 apparently. The RC1 would work here over jumping for joy on the next one other then a quick look to verify it one way or ....

D****noid is usually a reputable place but it does have its up and downs like almost every semi-private torrent site...
the thing is getting the download from the D***noid itself than from a third party website...

me thinks these people are getting smarter at concocting a Win7 build and its getting more dangerous downloading builds without checking a reputable site (or just checking the sig on the files should be enough...:))
and if you have a MD5 or SHA hashes even better

not only that but it seems that i remember that i posted similiar new back when they were in anticipation of the 7000 build...
Avoid Those Windows 7 Downloads
which says the same...:)

The problem often seen is not those who had originally signed for the beta testing but the numbers afterwards wanting to know how to get it! For the most those will be the ones that will rush blindly at the first torrent found and then return asking to how to fix things from a bad install or some buggy hack!

On a system here seeing 7 side by side with both XP and Vista alike you can make some serious comparisons and explain why 7 is now set as the default OS. When I find something that works I tend to stick with it.

As for the 64bit 7057 apparently found with hidden bugs that would have impressed by how authentic it looked from the start. The information on that mentioned before was well hidden bugs found in it. Still no bugs got onto the 7000 build still going strong there! It must have come directly from.... (fill in the blank space )

jimbo45 said:

Hi all.

Well for one I'm saying THANKS to guys / gals who let this stuff out into the wild.

I've ZERO sympathy for people who say "It's wrecked my computer - what do I do" -- as these people shouldn't be beta testing in the first place.

Checking the SHA1 / MDSUM should also be second nature -- it's usually possible to get these as the serious "leakers" will supply this information anyway -- or it can often be obtained from legit sites like reading blogs on various Microsoft / Technet sites. Neowin is also a decent source of info.

In any case had W7 been a real dog you can 100% guarantee NOBODY would have bothered faking it since the original would have done the talking.

Obviously people trying to fake it realize it's a product that people want.

What depresses me about the whole business is the really LOW level of expertise shown by the fakers and the "victims" alike

1) The image processing techniques are absolutely AWEFUL -- to any serious hacker out ther -- please go and enrol on at least Photoshop 101 course.

2) Get some knowledge of how the licensing and system info of Windows works. There's utterly no point in hiding expiration / product ID's either.

3) At least on your fake ISO's have a legitimate build string -- it's easy enough to find out from "your friendly MS employee" -- Amazing what a few jars of ale in a nice pub can do.

Is the education system in most countries really as bad as it appears these days or is it just me being slightly older where we really had to study for exams without the use of Google etc etc.

Well I suppose since 100,000's of people are STILL being taken for a ride via the "Nigerian Banker" or "Canadian Lottery" scams then anything is possible.

However with the current abysmal low level of fakery I'm really surprised anyone has actually been caught out yet.

C'mon hackers -- give someone a decent challenge -- let me see a REALLY GOOD FAKE that even I'm if not taken in by am at leased impressed with.

The obvious stuff is too boring to even bother with.

Cheers
jimbo

lmao think of the little ones starting to try out win-7...

other than that you can really tell whether or not its a good build or not...

now one thing that i believe they cannot fake is the signature...

why you ask?
its because everyone would be in a uproar once this is found out (as there is no publicly known bug in the RSA algorithm which would make it the first attack on SHA-1 and RSA)
it would take a massive amount of computing power and time to find the secret key used to certify the setup.exe (especially since they are using 2048 sha-1 cert... and not the 1024 ver which with enough computing power can be cr***ed)

wguimb said:

They are correct, it is a risk. BUT those like me who desire to test something fairly recent HAVE to get our bits using leaks BECAUSE Sinofsky hasn't given us anything since 7000!!! Ok, I feel better now. :)

I was about to post something similar. We know that we are putting ourselves at risk by downloading "leaked" builds. It's up to us if we want to install it. If Microsoft is that concerned, open up the alpha/beta testing to the public. That will never happen, because then they couldn't sell TechNet subscriptions.

Honestly, I think this is a reaction to the 7106 build, and the homebrewed versions of it.

Edit: late, as usual :P

I'm awaiting until Microsoft post the RC version on Technet to update from 7000.

I just got done backtracking one article claiming the release of the 7105-106-107 and even 7110 milestone builds to one thread on a Russian site revealing nothing newer then the 7077 build! The only thing seen there to supposedly represent the RC1 was...



In other words they didn't much to show for anything newer at this time.

As far as the 7057 build being referred to that came with everything intact in iso form not a bunch of rar files. Everything looks normal until a scan while booting from an OS on an entirely separate drive on another system revealed some rather nasty items.