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Windows 7 - Article from 2008 that needs a revisit |
04-09-2010
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Article from 2008 that needs a revisit I know it's old, but it's still good news that needs re-reporting.
A lot of people I think will benefit from this information...,.... Debunking Common Windows Performance Tweaking Myths - Windows - Lifehacker Quote: The Windows registry is a massive database of almost every setting imaginable for every application on your system. It only makes sense that cleaning it out would improve performance, right? Sadly it's just a marketing gimmick designed to sell registry cleaner products, as the reality is quite different... registry cleaners only remove a very small number of unused keys, which won't help performance when you consider the hundreds of thousands of keys in the registry. This isn't to say they are completely useless, of course. I'd still recommend cleaning the registry when you are trying to troubleshoot a problem caused by uninstalling buggy software that leaves entries behind, but even then you should be very careful to use a reputable application like previously mentioned CCleaner and review the entries before deleting anything. Ed Bott weighs in with a stronger opinion: I’d go a step further: Don’t run registry cleaner programs, period. I won’t go so far as to call them snake oil, but what possible performance benefits can you get from “cleaning up” unneeded registry entries and eliminating a few stray DLL files? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Built OS Win 7 Ultimate 32bit CPU C2D E6600 2.4Ghz Motherboard Intel D965WH Memory 4G Kingston KHX5400D2 Graphics Card EVGA GTX 570 HD SC (012-P3-1573-KR) Sound Card On-Board Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 226BW Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 PSU Corsair TX750W Case In-Win C589 Cooling Stock Intel Cooling Hard Drives 2 x 250 Seagate Barracuda
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04-09-2010
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#2 | | Vista and Windows7, sometimes Ubuntu and Fedora |
This indeed a good reminder. Many people still believe in this registry cleaner myth. And Ed Bott is a pretty good authority in those matters. I would be interested what people like Mark Russinovich would say. Maybe someone who has access to him can find out. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway - 2 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista and Windows7, sometimes Ubuntu and Fedora CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to 2.5GHz Quad Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse terrible devices, who wants them Hard Drives 5x HDD, 2x SSD, 6x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
04-09-2010
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I think it has alot to do with the fact that older versions of Windows used to ask you if you wished to delete .dll files when there weren't any applications using them anymore. Because of this people think that leaving them will cause irreparable damage to their computer. "If the computer tells me to do it, it must be really important!" | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Apple Macbook Pro (April 2009) OS W7 Ult. x64 | OS X CPU Intel Mobile Core 2 Duo 2.93Ghz [T9800 Penryn] Motherboard NVIDIA nForce 730i Rev. B1 [Mac-F2268EC8 (U2E1)] Memory 4096MB Samsung DDR3 Dual Channel [PC3-8500F 1066Mhz] Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT 512MB [G96M Rev. C1] Sound Card SB X-Fi Surround 5.1 USB | Onboard Realtek (Disabled) Monitor(s) Displays Acer x223wbd 22" | Apple Anti-Glare 17" (Disabled) Screen Resolution {Current} 1440x900 {Acer} 1680x1050 {Apple} 1920x1200 Keyboard Logitech G-15v2 [PN 920-000379] Mouse Logitech G-9 [PN 910-000338] PSU Magsafe Case Aluminum/Unibody (MBP52) Cooling 2 x 6000 RPM Fans Hard Drives {Internal}
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04-10-2010
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Indeed a good read. Wouldn't mind having a sevenforum guide that excludes all those myths. I've read here a lot that the number of processors at startup needs to be set, also read a lot about disabling services. I think disabling the following services are the only good ones:
Computer Browser
Remote Registry
Tablet PC Input Service | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number homemade OS W7 Pro 64 CPU Intel E7400 @ 3.5 GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EG45M-DS2H Memory 4x2GB DDR 2 800 G-skill Graphics Card onboard Sound Card onboard Monitor(s) Displays 1 21" LCD PSU OCZ400MXSP Case Coolermaster RC-690 with three 12" fans Cooling OCZ Vendetta Hard Drives WD Black Caviar, 750 GB in RAID 1, 32 MB cache Internet Speed DSL |
04-10-2010
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit |
Quote: Make Vista Use Multiple Cores to Speed Up Boot Time  This bogus tip made the rounds recently and almost everybody got caught including Lifehacker and big brother site Gizmodo... although commenters called it out quickly on both sides, and the editors updated the posts. (That's yet another reason to always participate in the comments here.) According to this tip, you were supposed to use MS Config to modify the "Number of processors" drop-down on the Boot tab. The problem is that this setting is only used for troubleshooting and debugging, to be able to determine if there is a problem with a single processor, or for a programmer to test their code against a single core while running on a multi-core system. Windows will use all your processors by default without this setting. I remember reading this advice in a thread here. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit CPU Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz Motherboard ASUS P4P800-VM Motherboard Chipset: Intel 865G + ICH5 Memory 2.50 GB RAM Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS Sound Card SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio (Chip) Monitor(s) Displays ViewSonic VX 1962 wm Screen Resolution 1680 X 1050 Keyboard Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 v10 USB Mouse Logitec optic USB Cooling Fan based Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 80 GB
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Western Digital "My Book" external hard drive 750 GB Internet Speed 3.01 Mb/s download 0.64 Mb/s upload |
04-10-2010
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Thanks for reviving the post very interesting, and helpful,
Regards.....Peter | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built Pc OS Wins 7 Ultimate 32bit CPU Penpium (R) Dual-Core CPU E5200@ 2.500 Motherboard Asustek P5KPL/1600 Memory 4 GiG DDR2 Graphics Card NVIDIA Geforce 9800 Sound Card VIA High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Sony Screen Resolution Height 900 / Width 1440 Mouse Standard Optical Case Standard Hard Drives 1 x 500gb Hitachi ATA Device (IDE)
1 x 500gb Hitachi Sata |
04-10-2010
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Computer Browser
Keep in mind that this can cause a problem if you are networking and sharing resources with other PC's. Quote: The browser service maintains a list of the domain name or workgroup name the computer is in, and the protocol being used for each computer on the network segment being served by the computer running the browser service. On each network segment, a master browser is elected from the group of computers located on the segment that are running the browser service. Description of the Microsoft Computer Browser Service
Technically, it has been theorized that you can disable this service on all PC's but one and that one will remain always the Master Browser. I am not sure I completely agree with that though. My understanding is there is more to the Browser service than just delegating.
Remote Registry
Tablet PC Input Service
The impact of these services are really very small.
However, for a security reason, disabling the Remote Registry could be useful.
Quite honestly, I have yet to see any real world benchmarks that say tweaking 7 is needed in any way shape or form, other than for the sake of doing it. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Built OS Win 7 Ultimate 32bit CPU C2D E6600 2.4Ghz Motherboard Intel D965WH Memory 4G Kingston KHX5400D2 Graphics Card EVGA GTX 570 HD SC (012-P3-1573-KR) Sound Card On-Board Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 226BW Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 PSU Corsair TX750W Case In-Win C589 Cooling Stock Intel Cooling Hard Drives 2 x 250 Seagate Barracuda
2 x 500 Seagate Barracuda (Raid1) |
04-10-2010
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#8 | | Vista and Windows7, sometimes Ubuntu and Fedora |
Quote: Tablet PC Input Service Isn't that the one that makes the snipping tool work in Vista? I think in Windows 7, it is no more required for the snipping tool to work. That was a funny connection anyhow. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway - 2 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista and Windows7, sometimes Ubuntu and Fedora CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to 2.5GHz Quad Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse terrible devices, who wants them Hard Drives 5x HDD, 2x SSD, 6x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
04-10-2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by whs Quote: Tablet PC Input Service Isn't that the one that makes the snipping tool work in Vista? I think in Windows 7, it is no more required for the snipping tool to work. That was a funny connection anyhow. Works in Windows 7. Weird connection, though. It seems only disabling remote-registry really makes sense after thinking about what was said here.
I guess my standard PC recommendation would be 8 GB of RAM, and SSD. So, chasing a few promille of power is not necessary anyway. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number homemade OS W7 Pro 64 CPU Intel E7400 @ 3.5 GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EG45M-DS2H Memory 4x2GB DDR 2 800 G-skill Graphics Card onboard Sound Card onboard Monitor(s) Displays 1 21" LCD PSU OCZ400MXSP Case Coolermaster RC-690 with three 12" fans Cooling OCZ Vendetta Hard Drives WD Black Caviar, 750 GB in RAID 1, 32 MB cache Internet Speed DSL |
04-11-2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by whs This indeed a good reminder. Many people still believe in this registry cleaner myth. And Ed Bott is a pretty good authority in those matters. I would be interested what people like Mark Russinovich would say. Maybe someone who has access to him can find out. I read something a few months ago where Mark had similar views to Ed.
It might have been in a Lifehacker article.
I haven't used a registry cleaner on Windows 7 for at least a year after one made mess of my PC. Windows 7 is still fast as ever. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Me OS Windows 7 64-bit CPU Intel Core i7 950 Motherboard Asus P6X58D-E Memory OCZ 3 x 2GB DDR3 1600Mhz PC12800 Platinum Graphics Card Sapphire ATI HD5770 Vapor-X OC Ed 1G GDDR5 Sound Card on board Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 2443BW Screen Resolution 1920 x 1200 Keyboard Logitech Internet 350 Mouse MS Wireless Laser Mouse 5000 PSU Corsair HX-650 Case Coolermaster Centurion 5 II Cooling Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus Hard Drives OCZ Vertex III Max IOPS SSD;
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