| Windows 7: Is Windows 7 finally halting the Mac migration? |
25 Apr 2010
|
#1 | | Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit. SP1. |
Is Windows 7 finally halting the Mac migration? Quote: Earnings information released by Microsoft yesterday point to there being a huge resurgence of interest in Windows 7, outpacing consumer interesting in Apple’s Mac platform. Is this a temporary blip, or is Microsoft back in fighting form?
Todd Bishop of TechFlashcombs through the details: In the financial data accompanying its earnings release, Microsoft said worldwide Windows consumer licenses grew by more than 35 percent in the recent quarter. By comparison, Apple this week reported an increase of 33 percent in Mac sales over roughly the same time period. That was impressive, too, of course, but Microsoft is growing from a significantly larger base of sales to begin with, making its higher growth rate considerably harder to achieve.
“Of course we’re going to outsell them on a unit basis, but on a rate basis, on a market share basis, we actually outgrew Apple Mac in the third quarter worldwide,” said Brad Brooks, a Microsoft Windows corporate vice president, referring to the quarter in the context of the Redmond company’s fiscal year, ending in June. Saying that Windows 7 is the catalyst for this reversal of the flow doesn’t really tell us much about what’s really going on here, and whether Microsoft is merely enjoying a brief honeymoon, or whether something more long term is happening here. More - Is Windows 7 finally halting the Mac migration? | Hardware 2.0 | ZDNet.com | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number LAPTOP. HP Pavilion dv7-4010TX . OS Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit. SP1. CPU Intel i7 -720QM.[1.6GHz Turbo Boost 2.8GHz. 6MB Cache.] Memory 8 DDR 3 RAM. 1066MHZ Graphics Card ATI 1024 MB. DDR3. Radeon HD5650 Monitor(s) Displays 17.3" High Definition Brightview LCD. LED Backlit. Screen Resolution 1600 x 900. Mouse Logitech Anywhere mouse. MX. Case Laptop / notebook. Hard Drives 640GB Internet Speed ADSL [ but too slow ] |
25 Apr 2010
|
#2 | | W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi Hafnarfjörður IS |
Hi there
I supect the current state of most economies might be driving this.
Nobody can deny that Apple Products often embody the sheer essence of "Coolness" but if you are wondering about whether it's "Roast Hind Leg of Dog" for your Sunday Dinner this weekend or something equally "appetising" then - a decent cheap PC or Laptop compared with an incredibly expensive (albeit really "cool looking" macbook pro) would probably end up in your shopping basket even if you wanted the Apple product.
A surprise however for confirmed Apple users and Mac fanboys is usually when they actually load up and run Windows 7 they quite enjoy it in spite of all those previous horror stories they've heard about Windows OS'es in the past.
Cheers
jimbo | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built OS W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi CPU Q9400 QUAD Motherboard P5QL-CM Memory 8GB Graphics Card On Motherborad Sound Card Realtek HD audio Monitor(s) Displays Apple Cinema display Mouse Toshiba wireless laser Hard Drives 4 X 1TB SATA Internet Speed > 20MB up |
25 Apr 2010
|
#3 | | |
I honestly don't think there was really any mass migration of people from Windows to Apple products. For the people who were moving, they moved because of fundamental differences with the product...and the perhaps untrue assumption that they would no longer have problems with viruses, malware, spyware, etc. I don't think these people are really going to be swung back to the Windows camp with Windows 7. It doesn't solve any of these fundamental issues that they are concerned with. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/2 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
25 Apr 2010
|
#4 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 I honestly don't think there was really any mass migration of people from Windows to Apple products. For the people who were moving, they moved because of fundamental differences with the product...and the perhaps untrue assumption that they would no longer have problems with viruses, malware, spyware, etc. I don't think these people are really going to be swung back to the Windows camp with Windows 7. It doesn't solve any of these fundamental issues that they are concerned with. Well, it's not as if you won't have issues with viruses and malware but if install AV and Anti-Malware on your mac just as you would your PC you'll end up having way less to worry about. This is simply because there are so many more viruses written for Windows due to the fact that the vast majority of people use Windows. I agree with the first assumption, that people aren't likely to buy Apple computers at the moment because they are just too expensive compared to a Windows platform with the same hardware. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Apple Macbook Pro (April 2009) OS W7 Ult. x64 | OS X CPU Intel Mobile Core 2 Duo 2.93Ghz [T9800 Penryn] Motherboard NVIDIA nForce 730i Rev. B1 [Mac-F2268EC8 (U2E1)] Memory 4096MB Samsung DDR3 Dual Channel [PC3-8500F 1066Mhz] Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT 512MB [G96M Rev. C1] Sound Card SB X-Fi Surround 5.1 USB | Onboard Realtek (Disabled) Monitor(s) Displays Acer x223wbd 22" | Apple Anti-Glare 17" (Disabled) Screen Resolution {Current} 1440x900 {Acer} 1680x1050 {Apple} 1920x1200 Keyboard Logitech G-15v2 [PN 920-000379] Mouse Logitech G-9 [PN 910-000338] PSU Magsafe Case Aluminum/Unibody (MBP52) Cooling 2 x 6000 RPM Fans Hard Drives {Internal}
Seagate Momentus 320GB 2.5" 7200RPM [ST9320421AS]
{Externals}
LaCie 320GB USB 2.0 HDD [301284UR]
LaCie 750GB USB 2.0 FW400 eSATA HDD [301314U]
LaCie 1TB USB 2.0 HDD [301304UR] Internet Speed 12Mbps/2.5Mbps w/ 24Mbps Speed Boost [Comcast] Other Info Logitech X-540 Speakers [PN 970223-0122]
Sennheiser PC-151 Headset |
25 Apr 2010
|
#5 | | |
To echo sentiment /statements already mentioned:
Seven has done a lot to redress the image/usability 'issues' that truthful and/or sheer fallacy, went with the tired old virus ridden XP and that nasty Vista image most MAC users heard about.
To that end and with relatively few 'horror' stories and generally favourable perception and reception of Seven - has also done wonders for MS sales and re-adoption.
It will be interesting to see what happens when/if Apple do go with AMD chips in the future. The 'cost' argument may become close to a moot point with apple potentially reducing prices and bridging the gap to it's PC counterparts.
However, as it currently stands cost is undoubtedly a factor for a lot of people. 
Quote: Originally Posted by Article Apple seems to have given up on pushing the Mac like it used to. There hasn’t been a fresh ”I’m a Mac, and I’m a PC” ad since Windows 7 was launched. Maybe Apple needs to bring back Justin Long … There hasn't been a fresh 'Mac vs PC' ad because it was a campaign that not only got old fast, but also backfired somewhat on Apple by people suddenly declaring themselves 'PC'. They inadvertently created a viable 'rival' image.
The lack of substance to those 'Mac vs PC' ads is also testament to the fact that the Apple marketing Machine were already grasping at straws. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number SmartEyeball Inc OS 8 Pro x64 CPU i7 3770K 4.6GHz Motherboard ASUS P8Z77 WS Memory 16GB G.Skill Trident X 2400mhz Graphics Card 3x Gigabyte GTX 670 OC WindForce *TRI SLI* Sound Card ALC898 / 5.1 receiver/ ATH-AD900 Headphones Monitor(s) Displays x3 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung / "40 Sony Screen Resolution 5760*1200/ 1920*1200 / 1920*1080 Keyboard Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine MX Black // Filco Ninja TKL Mouse Razer Imperator + Thermaltake Theron PSU Corsair AX1200W Case Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow Edition Cooling Noctua NH-D14 Hard Drives 2x Intel 520 240GB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0) * 2TB WD Caviar Black Antivirus MSE Browser IE, FF Other Info GT Extreme V2 Sim Racing Cockpit + 40" LCD and K/B Mouse stand ▼
Fanatec CSR Elite Wheel + Clubsport Pedals + CSR shifter/7GS ▼
Buttkicker v2 Seat Rumbler with Dedicated 5.1 and Sub Woofer attached to frame ▼
=
Bloody Big Grin |
25 Apr 2010
|
#6 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by notsograymatter I agree with the first assumption, that people aren't likely to buy Apple computers at the moment because they are just too expensive compared to a Windows platform with the same hardware. Have you walked past an Apple display at a store like Best Buy or the Apple store itself in the mall? These places are all packed out. Lots of people see the price premium and are convinced it costs more because it's better. The Apple marketing machine has worked wonderfully.
I honestly don't think the majority of the consumers see the hardware as being the same as a PC. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/2 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
25 Apr 2010
|
#7 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by notsograymatter I agree with the first assumption, that people aren't likely to buy Apple computers at the moment because they are just too expensive compared to a Windows platform with the same hardware. Have you walked past an Apple display at a store like Best Buy or the Apple store itself in the mall? These places are all packed out. Lots of people see the price premium and are convinced it costs more because it's better. The Apple marketing machine has worked wonderfully. But I don't think of the people in these stores that many are saying, "Well, Windows 7 is much nicer than Vista...so maybe the MAC isn't for me".
I honestly don't think the majority of the consumers see the hardware as being the same as a PC. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/2 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
25 Apr 2010
|
#8 | | |
[QUOTE]Well, it's not as if you won't have issues with viruses and malware but if install AV and Anti-Malware on your mac just as you would your PC you'll end up having way less to worry about. This is simply because there are so many more viruses written for Windows due to the fact that the vast majority of people use Windows. I agree with the first assumption, that people aren't likely to buy Apple computers at the moment because they are just too expensive compared to a Windows platform with the same hardware.[QUOTE]
I looked at Mac's before I built my current system. For the price of a Mac I have something with much better specs and has been pretty smooth. Few problems, nothing major. The speed is amazing and I feel it is more suited to my needs than a Mac would be. | My System Specs | | |
25 Apr 2010
|
#9 | | |
I have never used Apple products, but a operating system that is set up from the beginning to not be in root is inherently safer then one that isn't. As another post suggests the amount of MS used makes it a target, but it also defaults to a root admin account basically. So if MS really cared they would educate the users on limited accounts, but I suspect this would not fit in their bottom line of making a profit. I do like Windows 7 as far as being able to most root activities from the limited account with the password, I know this can be done in XP, but is a little more limited, never used vista. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number ACER aspire one OS XP/W7/Lucid/Arch Memory 2 gigs |
25 Apr 2010
|
#10 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x86 USA |
I do not use Apple products I find there computers extremely overpriced for what you actually get. Although I do have an iPod Touch for my Entertainment. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion OS Windows 7 Ultimate x86 CPU Genuine Intel CPU Dual Core @ 1.80 GHz by Intel Motherboard Lancaster8 by ASUSTek Computer INC Memory 2 GB DDR2 Graphics Card NVIDIA Geforce 7500 LE by NVIDIA Sound Card Microsoft High Defention Audio Monitor(s) Displays Acer AL2216W Monitor 17 Inches by Acer Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Logitech Wireless Keyboard by Logitech Mouse Logitech Wireless Mouse by Logitech Case Standard HP Case Hard Drives SATA 250 GB HDD Internet Speed Standard 2.0 Megabytes Is Windows 7 finally halting the Mac migration? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:55 AM. | |