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Windows 7: Windows Home Server Code Name "Vail" public preview


28 Apr 2010   #41

Windows 8.1 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jorpe View Post
Will this version allow you use of a non-wired network connection?
I don't think so, I am sure i read in the Vail forum that you need a wired connection

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28 Apr 2010   #42

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jorpe View Post
Will this version allow you use of a non-wired network connection?
I don't think so. And with a server type of machine where you want as much speed and reliability as possible....I cannot imagine why you would want to run it wirelessly. This is intended to be a machine that you don't use at the console, so just set it up near your router and plug it in.
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28 Apr 2010   #43

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

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I personally was annoyed when RDP was required to utilize the Remote Admin function (requiring the PRO versions of windows to work) even though it was one of the selling points when advertised to the general user base w/o mind you any statement that higher end windows versions would NEED to be installed to use this function.
I believe you have misunderstood. Windows Home Premium comes with the RDP client to connect to the server.....it just doesn't allow you to RDP into the Home Premium product. So, you don't need an advanced version of Windows to take advantage of this functionality.
No I didn't miss understand anything....connecting to the Home Premium PC is what I am talking about. You should NOT have to run pro to use the remote admin function of the Windows "HOME" server to get to your pc's from a remote location using the web interface.

I have been running this product since before PP1 and I really like it but Microsoft has done some questionable things to try and force more expensive upgrades to increase the bottom line. If you run a WHS then you should be able to RDP from the server (Web page remote access) to EVERY machine that is connected to it and not require a $90 upgrade to use the function. This server is not SBS its W-HOME-S.

I still recommend this product to people....it just irritates me that the RDP issue is based on GENERATING REVENUE and not any other reason. There is NO OTHER reason to remove RDP from the home products. You should NOT have to go to the physical location of each pc in your home network to log into each and every machine in your HOME network to do uploads and downloads. This is after all a basic reason for running a network in the first place. If nothing else then the WHS Client on the pc should include the RDP server allowing access from your server and this function should then be disabled if a WHS is not found on the network (surely Microsoft can figure out how to accomplish this), or Microsoft could sell an add-in that would do this for $10 or so per machine. After all the development costs of RDP were repaid by the customers many many years ago.

Currently the WHS checks to see if what version the pc is running and rejects RDP connections to that machine if it finds a home version of Windows (these checks are run approximately every 20 minutes by the server) which means that Microsoft DELIBERATELY stops remote connections unless an upgrade to pro/ultimate is performed. This is my objection.
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28 Apr 2010   #44

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Bobtran,

Gotcha. Sorry, I was not aware of that limitation. Well, Microsoft is in the business of generating a profit. Just because you use Windows Home Server does not automatically turn on the RDP functionality that they ripped out of Home based versions of the client Windows operating systems.

I think it's sad that RDP is not just enabled on all versions of Windows. Seems very useful for helping to remotely troubleshoot systems and home users likely need that more than anybody else. Clearly the Windows Home Server product is reliant on the RDP functionality, and it's inclusion in the client OS is based on the version of the client computer and is not based on the server software used.
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28 Apr 2010   #45

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
Bobtran,

Gotcha. Sorry, I was not aware of that limitation. Well, Microsoft is in the business of generating a profit. Just because you use Windows Home Server does not automatically turn on the RDP functionality that they ripped out of Home based versions of the client Windows operating systems.

I think it's sad that RDP is not just enabled on all versions of Windows. Seems very useful for helping to remotely troubleshoot systems and home users likely need that more than anybody else. Clearly the Windows Home Server product is reliant on the RDP functionality, and it's inclusion in the client OS is based on the version of the client computer and is not based on the server software used.
Yes, you got my point exactly and said it in a lot fewer words. +1
Bob
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28 Apr 2010   #46

7600x64 ultimate, not SP1
 
 

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jorpe View Post
Will this version allow you use of a non-wired network connection?
I don't think so. And with a server type of machine where you want as much speed and reliability as possible....I cannot imagine why you would want to run it wirelessly. This is intended to be a machine that you don't use at the console, so just set it up near your router and plug it in.
Understood, I guess I just fancied the idea of putting it in a closet somewhere.
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