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05-11-2010
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#11 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by Senshi09 I think its a dumb question because im going to school for this, but i just started school yesterday and am no where near knowing this yet, but what is IPv4 and IPv6 and why are they important? IPv4 is a protocol used to connect computers and devices on a net work. IPv6 is a new protocol that does the same. It is not in widespread use. If I am not mistaken, Win 7 uses IPv6 for home groups. Wiki has some good information on IPv6. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit CPU Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz Motherboard ASUS P4P800-VM Motherboard Chipset: Intel 865G + ICH5 Memory 2.50 GB RAM Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS Sound Card SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio (Chip) Monitor(s) Displays ViewSonic VX 1962 wm Screen Resolution 1680 X 1050 Keyboard Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 v10 USB Mouse Logitec optic USB Cooling Fan based Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 80 GB
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05-11-2010
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#12 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Senshi09 I think its a dumb question because im going to school for this, but i just started school yesterday and am no where near knowing this yet, but what is IPv4 and IPv6 and why are they important? Think of it like a house address (and phone/fax number). Every house, apartment, business needs an address (and a phone is always good too) so that people can find them, deliver things, and contact them. IPv4 is a shorter (four 8-bit segments), while IPv6 is MUCH longer (eight 16-bit segments).
IPv4 has 32bit addresses (so a 32 digit address), and is written in 4 segments from 0 to 255
IPv6 has 128bit addresses (a 128 digit address), and is written in 8 segments in hexidecimal.
This means that we are running out of IPv4 addresses. There are only 4,294,967,296 IPv4 addresses (2^32 addresses as 32 bit means 2 to that power).
The only option is to move to IPv6, which has upwards of 340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,770,000,000 unique IP addresses. (3.4*10^38)(2^128).
The main difference is that IPv4 is a 32bit system, and IPv6 is a 128 bit system.
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05-12-2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by Lordbob75 
Quote: Originally Posted by Senshi09 I think its a dumb question because im going to school for this, but i just started school yesterday and am no where near knowing this yet, but what is IPv4 and IPv6 and why are they important? Think of it like a house address (and phone/fax number). Every house, apartment, business needs an address (and a phone is always good too) so that people can find them, deliver things, and contact them. IPv4 is a shorter (four 8-bit segments), while IPv6 is MUCH longer (eight 16-bit segments).
IPv4 has 32bit addresses (so a 32 digit address), and is written in 4 segments from 0 to 255
IPv6 has 128bit addresses (a 128 digit address), and is written in 8 segments in hexidecimal.
This means that we are running out of IPv4 addresses. There are only 4,294,967,296 IPv4 addresses (2^32 addresses as 32 bit means 2 to that power).
The only option is to move to IPv6, which has upwards of 340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,770,000,000 unique IP addresses. (3.4*10^38)(2^128).
The main difference is that IPv4 is a 32bit system, and IPv6 is a 128 bit system.
~Lordbob Hence, we will never really run out of IP's!
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05-12-2010
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Heh yeah, the demise of the IPv4 address space has been trumpeted every couple of years for the last uh, 10-12 yers that I remember.
Now sooner or later they may be right, but when you've read the same story 6 times now...
But yeah, IPv6SHOULD be moved into place for all external addresses as soon as possible. It's been SO long coming (Like 64 bit computing). But internally there is still very little reason to have every machine internet addressable. In fact it's generaly the exact opposite to what anyone wants. So interally all machines will still be IPv4 on private networks with only the gateway machines and direct internet appliances that connect to the big bad web needing to be switched to IPv6. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Scratch built OS Windows 7 x64 Ultimate CPU i7 960 Motherboard Asus P6X58D Memory 12 Gig Corsair Dominator Graphics Card Nvidia 480 Sound Card Maudio Delta 44 + breakout box Monitor(s) Displays Dell UltraSharp U2410 24in and Samsung 21 dual monitors Screen Resolution 1920x1200 and 1280x1024 Keyboard Logitech G15 + N52 game pad Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU Corasair TX850 Case Cooler Master HAF Cooling Corsair H50 Hard Drives Primary: Intel X-25M G2 160G SSD
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05-12-2010
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#15 | | W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE |
Since the INAA has approved the right of other countries to create their own domains, why can't the US do the same? I'm assuming that those numerical limits are defined by the potential size of a single domain. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY OS W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE CPU Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3 Motherboard ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI Memory 2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS Graphics Card EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS Sound Card Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1 Monitor(s) Displays Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1024x768/**1980x1080 Keyboard Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse Mouse Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto PSU CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000 Case HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB Cooling 3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans Hard Drives WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black Internet Speed 3.3Mbps Other Info SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
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05-12-2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by seekermeister Since the INAA has approved the right of other countries to create their own domains, why can't the US do the same? I'm assuming that those numerical limits are defined by the potential size of a single domain. Domains are just a human readable version of an IP address. Each domain has a corresponding IP it links to, see DNS servers. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Inspiron e1705 OS Windows 7 (7600) x86 CPU Intel Core 2 Duo T7200 (2 GHz) Motherboard Unknown Dell MB Memory 2 GB Graphics Card ATI Mobility Radeon x1400 (128 MB Dedicated) Sound Card SigmaTel HD Audio; Turtle Beach Audio Advantage SRM Monitor(s) Displays Laptop 17" Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Other Info Dell Inspiron Mini 10v (Intel Atom N270 1.6 GHz; 1GB; Windows 7 Ultimate) |
05-12-2010
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#17 | | W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE |
Understood, but does that mean that every time a country opts to create it's own domain, that it requires a large block of IPs to be taken from the overall availability? I have never paid any attention, but does .com, .net, .org and .gov not have any repetition of IP numbers. If not, then it really doesn't make any sense to me to allow any particular country to create it's own domain, when this would only shrink the number of IPs available. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY OS W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE CPU Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3 Motherboard ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI Memory 2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS Graphics Card EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS Sound Card Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1 Monitor(s) Displays Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1024x768/**1980x1080 Keyboard Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse Mouse Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto PSU CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000 Case HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB Cooling 3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans Hard Drives WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black Internet Speed 3.3Mbps Other Info SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
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05-12-2010
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No, the availability of using non-romanic characters in domain names or opening up other registrars does not change the number or avilability of IP addresses at all.
More people wanting IP addresses (and the possibly associated domain name) does.
Last edited by fseal; 05-13-2010 at 09:50 AM..
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05-12-2010
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#19 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64, Mac OS X 10.6.2 x64 |

Quote: Originally Posted by CarlTR6 
Quote: Originally Posted by yowanvista 
Quote: Originally Posted by Win7User512
No, but since Vista (I believe), Windows supports both at the same time (no need to turn on off to use the other). But XP has limited support for IPv6. Another reason to upgrade.
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05-13-2010
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#20 | | |
Okay, so the IPv4 and IPv6 are just Internet Protocol version 4 and version 6 then. Alright, the v4 and v6 was throwing me off. I had a slight idea that it meant Internet protocol but it didnt connect in my brain because of the v4 and v6. That and ive never seen anyone lable as such, ive always just seen IP, IPA, IPC.
Ahhh alright, yeah that would be bad. Well i guess the internet has come along way from the old days then but it dfoes make alot mroe sense to be running out of IPv4 right about now since the world is evolving to be more technologically advanced and with more and more people coming into the world and requiring thier own IPs eachday. Kinda surprised it hasn't run out already.. but the backup of IPv6 will take over within a year and couple months then since IPv4 will be gone and dimished. So when that happens, will people be forced to upgrade thier systems or will they get new IPswithout the upgrade? this is pertaining to the people running the newer systems such as vista or Windows 7. XP or below (surprisingly i do know a few people that are still running win 98-2000) will more then likely be forced regardless.. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Acer Aspire 5532 OS Windows 7 Premium CPU AMD Athlon 64 Processor TF-20 (1.6 GHz) Motherboard AMD Memory 3 GB Graphics Card ATi Radeon HD3200 Monitor(s) Displays 15.6" HD LCD PSU IDK? Case Gun Metal grey Cooling Dual fans Hard Drives 160 GB HDD All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:34 PM. |  |