How a silly phone for teens reveals MS's plan for us all

blackroseMD1 said:

osholt said:

The cloud is the future in most non commercial and even some commercial sectors whether you like it or not.

I for one am totally happy with the idea of the cloud... as long as the server it's stored on is upstairs next to the router.

That could be the next big thing. Personal cloud computing.

I mean all of us on this forum have a lot of our post stored on some server somewhere either controlled by Google, Microsoft, AOL or Yahoo and no one seams to object to that? Heck, a lot of us even trust our money online with online banking and online retail.

The next logical step is for more things to go the way of email, web apps etc.

I admit although being a cloud supporter I still prefer to have all my really important stuff right here on my PC and not on the cloud.

Oli

I'm not completely against the idea of cloud computing...I just think that having all of your info, documents, pics etc. out there instead of stored locally is a stupidly bad idea. If MS ever goes to a fully cloud OS...then I will keep Windows 7 or 8 or whatever their last non-Cloud OS is.

This is why I'm saying personal cloud computing.

You get a copy of Windows Home Server and put it on a storage server PC (just a mid /low spec one) and access everything from YOUR cloud, no one else can use your cloud unless you let them.

It's kind of a best of both worlds; the files/pictures are stored both locally and on the cloud (cloud and local being the same thing).

Although this all relies on upload speeds getting much better or for SDSL to become cheap.

Oli

SIW2 said:

It's all about money . Your money.

Microsoft is a business, not a charity. Money is what makes the world go round. Without it, you starve. Every business is looking out for its bottom line, nothing more.

I think what people are also missing with Cloud Computing is Regulation.

They are already trying hard as they can to get the Internet fully Regulated.
This would only give them more reason to jam that foot further in the door.

I can't wait till someone says, "remember the days when we could do just about whatever we wanted on the Net?"

It will turn into, "I need to check the regulatory papers to make sure it's safe for me to post or say anything. I could be violating some pithy regluation, and could be held liable for helping someone fix their PC over the net."

If you really and truly think that is far fetched?

Go check out Labor laws in the personal home and what they are trying to do there.
Are you ready for that? Just wait.

Scenario 1: Some kid comes to mow your lawn, he runs himself over with the his lawn mower. You then find yourself in court with a million dollar lawsuit. Oh, yes, they are trying, it is coming.

The net will be regulated. Unless we all fight for it.
Scenario 1 will come true, unless we all fight for it. Or don't higher anyone to mow your lawn, or clean your house.

Boris said:

Lot of wishful thinking going on in this article. True MS is a giant, but slow to act and with little vision. There market share seems to hold them back. Just look at the markets Apple has opened up: ipod, iphone, ipad, itunes store, app store. MS is still windows and office only, only reacting to changes in the market at the moment.

I still remember the way MS responded to the introduction of the iphone (and ipad). Now four years later they still have to come up with an viable combination of hard & software.

they are all effectively the same market though arent they? they all lean towards the "kids" who want their music with then 24/7. Now i am one of those "kids" (im 22... but you know what I mean) but i will not buy anything from apple.

1. Its over priced
2. Itunes is such a badly written program, you can actually see it breaking your computer while its running.... ( i exxagerate of course, but only a little)

*braces himself for a pelting with Apples*

osholt said:

This is why I'm saying personal cloud computing.

You get a copy of Windows Home Server and put it on a storage server PC (just a mid /low spec one) and access everything from YOUR cloud, no one else can use your cloud unless you let them.

It's kind of a best of both worlds; the files/pictures are stored both locally and on the cloud (cloud and local being the same thing).

Although this all relies on upload speeds getting much better or for SDSL to become cheap.

Oli

Oli what would be the point of that? you might as well just leave them where they are to be fair.... the only advantage i can see is that you can access the files from any computer, and Homegroup manages that quite comfortably. (yes i know Workgroups are a PITA but by the time we reach this point your talking about XP will have died a painful death I hope)

also upload speed wouldnt matter if it was all local as it would be LAN speeds, so at LEAST 10Mbps more likely 100/1000