| Windows 7: Introduction to Rogue Anti-Virus |
16 Jul 2010
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#21 | | Windows 8 Professional 64-bit Minnesota |
Once, I had to fix some guy's computer. It was an ancient PC, very slow. Making it a little easier. First step I needed was access to Task Manager, the virus prevented that. So I restarted, then on a hunch, when the PC was booting, I was able to activate Task Manager before the virus or the "faulty" AV actually booted. I got lucky, and was able to terminate the process.
Perhaps slow computers aren't that bad when it comes to faulty software... | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 8 Professional 64-bit CPU Intel Core i3-2100 Motherboard ASRock Intel Z68M/USB3 Memory 4GB Graphics Card GeForece GTX 550 Ti Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 PSU 750w |
16 Jul 2010
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#22 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit Maryland |
I had to remove a rogue anti virus for someone the other day. It was called Security Master AV. I couldn't even open up the task manager. I got paid $30 for it too.
Anyways, this is a nice beginner guide for the uneducated. Nice job. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number custom OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit CPU AMD Phenom II X4 940 @ 3.0GHz Motherboard ECS A780GM-A Memory G.Skill 4.0GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 400MHz Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX 550 Ti FPB 1GB Sound Card none Monitor(s) Displays AOC 22" Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Microsoft Digital Media Pro Keyboard Mouse Microsoft Comfort Optical Mouse 3000 PSU OCZ ZT Series 750W Case LOGISYS XBlade Mid Tower Cooling 2x 120mm COUGAR CF-V12HP Hard Drives 300GB Western Digital Internet Speed cable - 10MB connection |
16 Jul 2010
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#23 | | Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit Virginia |
Skulblaka, I did the same thing on a newer PC, so its not just slow ones if you are quick enough about it. In case you are wondering it was a desktop with a 2.4GHZ dual core processor, 2gigs DDR2 800 ram, and Windows XP. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba P775-S7100 OS Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit CPU Intel Core i5-2450M @2.5 GHz Memory 6 GB DDR3 1333MHz Graphics Card Intel HD 3000 Monitor(s) Displays Built-in 17.3" LED; 22" Insignia NS-L22Q-10A Screen Resolution 1600x900; 1360x768 Hard Drives 750 GB Hitachi
1TB Seagate FreeAgent External Internet Speed Verizon DSL Speed(Down/Up): 3360 Kbps / 800 Kbps Antivirus MSE and MBAM Pro Browser IE10 RP |
16 Jul 2010
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See my post on page one if you run into this again. That will fix it almost every time. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Built OS Win 7 Ultimate 32bit CPU C2D E6600 2.4Ghz Motherboard Intel D965WH Memory 4G Kingston KHX5400D2 Graphics Card EVGA GTX 570 HD SC (012-P3-1573-KR) Sound Card On-Board Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 226BW Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 PSU Corsair TX750W Case In-Win C589 Cooling Stock Intel Cooling Hard Drives 2 x 250 Seagate Barracuda
2 x 500 Seagate Barracuda (Raid1) |
16 Jul 2010
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#25 | | Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit Virginia |
Tepid, that is an interesting article, but I think my method of going into safe mode and removing everything manually is better for me.
Forgot to mention this earlier and don't think it has been said yet, but some of these can be disabled by going into safe mode, opening up sysconfig, and looking at what is set to run at start up. Sometimes there is something in there for the fake anti-virus. Untick it, and after restarting you should be able to install and run MSE or MalwareBytes. It won't work every time, but it's really convenient when it does. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba P775-S7100 OS Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit CPU Intel Core i5-2450M @2.5 GHz Memory 6 GB DDR3 1333MHz Graphics Card Intel HD 3000 Monitor(s) Displays Built-in 17.3" LED; 22" Insignia NS-L22Q-10A Screen Resolution 1600x900; 1360x768 Hard Drives 750 GB Hitachi
1TB Seagate FreeAgent External Internet Speed Verizon DSL Speed(Down/Up): 3360 Kbps / 800 Kbps Antivirus MSE and MBAM Pro Browser IE10 RP |
16 Jul 2010
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#26 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 Service Pack 1 Morecambe, Lancashire, England |

Quote: Originally Posted by Petey7 Tepid, that is an interesting article, but I think my method of going into safe mode and removing everything manually is better for me.
Forgot to mention this earlier and don't think it has been said yet, but some of these can be disabled by going into safe mode, opening up sysconfig, and looking at what is set to run at start up. Sometimes there is something in there for the fake anti-virus. Untick it, and after restarting you should be able to install and run MSE or MalwareBytes. It won't work every time, but it's really convenient when it does. I've cleaned a couple of family member's laptops that have been infected with these types of viruses and done the method you described. Worked both times and got it all cleared up. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built OS Windows 7 Professional x64 Service Pack 1 CPU Intel Core i7 920 3.2GHz Motherboard ASUS Sabertooth x58 Memory 6GB XMS3 Corsair 1333MHz Graphics Card Zotac Nvidia Geforce GTX470 Sound Card ASUS Xonar DX/XD 7.1 Monitor(s) Displays Dell 24" S2409W + Dell 20" E207WFP Screen Resolution 1920x1080 + 1680x1050 Keyboard Logitech G11 Keyboard Mouse Logitech G5 Laser Mouse (2007 edition) PSU Corsair HX850 modular Case Coolermaster 690II Advanced Nvidia Edition Cooling Corsair H60 Hard Drives 1x 120GB OCZ Vertex 2E, 1x 750GB Western Digital Caviar Black, 1x 1TB Western Digital Caviar Green Internet Speed 16Mbps Other Info LG Blu-Ray player |
16 Jul 2010
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Quite Honestly,, the best way to really do a good cleaning is with BartPE,,,,
You have to create a good BartPE with Sherpya's XPE on an XP Machine and it will work on a 7 system, you just can't create it on a 7 system.
This can give you full access to the drive and Reg Hives if BartPE is setup properly.
UBCD4WIN can work sometimes, but I have had more success with bartPE.
Unfortunately, BartPE is getting so dated that it doesn't work that often anymore due to Hardware advancements. But an alternative that does work, when it doesn't crash is Winbuilder 7RescuePE.
Also what works is the MS DaRT for Win 7, which you can run some apps from such as Spybot S&D and maybe Malwarebytes, but that may not work as it is not portable, unless you get the unofficial portable one that is out there and safe (afaik).
There are many ways of cleaning a system of Malware/Spyware/Rougeware.
The nice thing about these alternatives is you are not allowing the OS to run/boot directly. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Built OS Win 7 Ultimate 32bit CPU C2D E6600 2.4Ghz Motherboard Intel D965WH Memory 4G Kingston KHX5400D2 Graphics Card EVGA GTX 570 HD SC (012-P3-1573-KR) Sound Card On-Board Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 226BW Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 PSU Corsair TX750W Case In-Win C589 Cooling Stock Intel Cooling Hard Drives 2 x 250 Seagate Barracuda
2 x 500 Seagate Barracuda (Raid1) |
17 Jul 2010
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When you go onto these sites you can just close the web page can't you and that stops the actual virus from installing onto the PC doesn't it? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Inspiron OS Windows 7 CPU 2.4 GHz Intel i3 cpu Memory 8GB Mouse MS Explorer Mouse Internet Speed 100 Mb/s |
17 Jul 2010
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#29 | | Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit Virginia |
BomberAF, there are some websites that show false scans and can be closed. Usually these can just be closed (better to open task manager and kill the process instead of clicking the close button, as this sometimes triggers the instillation), however this is not the way most people are infected with them. Usually an ad or something else online installs it to your computer with you seeing nothing. Upon restarting the computer you get something such as Microsoft Antivirus 2010 claiming that the computer has 100+ viruses and that they need to be removed. They also claim MS will only remove them if the person pays between $50-100. They also go far as t simulate a AV scan but take place in a fraction of the time an actual one takes. These programs are usually impossible to close or keep closed, and prevent the downloading and/or installing of actual AV programs. Removing them can be tricky if you don't know what you are doing. Reading the rest of this thread will tell you the various methods that we use. If you have anymore questions feel free to ask. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba P775-S7100 OS Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit CPU Intel Core i5-2450M @2.5 GHz Memory 6 GB DDR3 1333MHz Graphics Card Intel HD 3000 Monitor(s) Displays Built-in 17.3" LED; 22" Insignia NS-L22Q-10A Screen Resolution 1600x900; 1360x768 Hard Drives 750 GB Hitachi
1TB Seagate FreeAgent External Internet Speed Verizon DSL Speed(Down/Up): 3360 Kbps / 800 Kbps Antivirus MSE and MBAM Pro Browser IE10 RP |
17 Jul 2010
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#30 | | |
Quote: Usually these can just be closed (better to open task manager and kill the process instead of clicking the close button, as this sometimes triggers the instillation), however this is not the way most people are infected with them. Yep, clicking anything like Close, Cancel or X'ing out of the window can kick off the installation in the background with no warnings and no indication of the install or file copy. AS stated, Killing the app from Task Manager is a safer way, but, that doesn't guarantee that it didn't copy something to your system as part of a multi-part attack in where you hit a couple different ad's or pop-ups and they each copy a small different part at each time. My wife keeps asking me why I wipe out all her cookies and history and garbage all the time and it irritates her. But when I don't, after a period of time, something happens, and I really think it is a multi-part attack. Theory anyway. Quote: Usually an ad or something else online installs it to your computer with you seeing nothing. These are what we call Drive-By Downloads | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Built OS Win 7 Ultimate 32bit CPU C2D E6600 2.4Ghz Motherboard Intel D965WH Memory 4G Kingston KHX5400D2 Graphics Card EVGA GTX 570 HD SC (012-P3-1573-KR) Sound Card On-Board Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 226BW Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 PSU Corsair TX750W Case In-Win C589 Cooling Stock Intel Cooling Hard Drives 2 x 250 Seagate Barracuda
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