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Windows 7: Why so little buzz surrounding Windows 7?

19 Dec 2008   #11
Bare Foot Kid
Microsoft MVP

W 7 64-bit Ultimate
 
 

Hello Yoder54, welcome to Se7en Forums.

You're right about the OEM problems but that's the manufactures (HP, Gateway) doing not MS's. Too many people point the blame at MS when they don't deserve it. I for one will be buying a full retail 64-bit Windows 7 Ultimate as soon as it becomes available.














Later Ted


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20 Dec 2008   #12
johngalt

 

No - making the OEM license *only* available to OEMs makes sense - making it available to System Builders does not.
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20 Dec 2008   #13
Yoder54

Vista Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by johngalt View Post
No - making the OEM license *only* available to OEMs makes sense - making it available to System Builders does not.
But the consumer is duped by the OEMs. I would bet that 90% or more of all computers buyers are not aware of the difference between OEM and full retail version. Should they know? I don't think so. When people buy a computer they buy under the pretense of buying functionality, most are not even aware of all of the Intellectual Copyrights...but, I think most know that they cannot copy software and distribute it. Try explaining to gramps how that OEM OS that he paid $160 for is not really his...he cannot sell it when his box is destroyed by ligtenening, nor can he legally install it on a new computer while the old one sits in the dump.

@Barefoot Kid: The problem is that if I wanted to buy a full retail version from a vendor such as HP, I do not think I could. So, the full retail version is basically available only to those who build their machines and those who want to install it on an older machine. So how is it possible for the average non-geek consumer to get a new hotdog computer with a full retail version OS?

I like to think that MS has some control of how it licenses its OS. They could pull the OEM from the list of possibilities if they wanted to. What MS should do is provide OEM software to system builders who want it, and to those firms who build in-house. The consumer should be charged for, and given a full retail version anytime they buy a new box.

Or, let the consumer choose between an OEM or full retail version.
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20 Dec 2008   #14
johngalt

 

I would also bet that 90% of those 90% don't give a rat's derriere. When they need a new computer they'll go buy a new computer with another OS on it - they won't care about keeping their current OS or anything like that unless they keep the entire computer....

And Ol Gramps would not care as he would buy a *new* machine with a new OS on it - the old one could rot for all he cared.

As for getting a new hotdog computer *and* retail OS - buy both.

I *seriously* doubt that an OEM is going to discount the retail price of an OS - very very little incentive for them to do so, even if they did offer them - so why worry about it? If you don't want to invest the time to build your system, local shops can build one for you. If you prefer to buy a machine from a large scale manufacturer like HP or Dell, go out and buy a separate OS if you think you're going to want to sell it later....
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20 Dec 2008   #15
Bare Foot Kid
Microsoft MVP

W 7 64-bit Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Yoder54
@Barefoot Kid: The problem is that if I wanted to buy a full retail version from a vendor such as HP, I do not think I could. So, the full retail version is basically available only to those who build their machines and those who want to install it on an older machine. So how is it possible for the average non-geek consumer to get a new hotdog computer with a full retail version OS?
Hello again.

I started with an HP media center, right at a year ago; that came pre-loaded with Vista 32-bit Home Premium. It no longer even closely resembles the machine I started out with. The first thing I did was take it from 3GB of RAM to 4GB; then I added a video card and upgraded the power supply. Then about two weeks ago I added a second 500GB HDD. Last week I Upgraded to Vista 64-bit Ultimate. Today actually; I just purchased 8GB of RAM to add to it (the max the mobo will run) and that will be added when it arrives this coming week.

Now all that wasn't meant to be "all about me" but it was meant to show that these additions are possible with some know how; and if you don't have that, as I didn't when I started, spend time around these forums and ask questions, as I have and do your homework. These things aren't really that hard to do. I'm well aware Rome wasn't built in a day; it has taken me a year to get here from there.

If you never start though, you'll never arrive.


Later Ted
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21 Dec 2008   #16
darkassain

Windows 7 Ult x64(x2), HomePrem x32(x4), Server 08 (+VM), 08 R2 (VM) , SuSe 11.2 (VM), XP 32 (VM)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by johngalt View Post
I would also bet that 90% of those 90% don't give a rat's derriere. When they need a new computer they'll go buy a new computer with another OS on it - they won't care about keeping their current OS or anything like that unless they keep the entire computer....
i completely agree 100% on this one
(from now on i will refer endusers as regular users meaning with no techincal expertise...)


the enduser wont care as long as it works and does what he wants...
to them speed is a relative term meaning if they can play their favorite videos(HD or not) if they can be protected (unobtrusive AV/FW) and at the same time have a few IE tabs (if they updated to 7 or to the 8 beta (very very unlikely) and remember we are talking about endusers...
as long as it works and works well they dont care if Windows included Hyper-V (just thought of it)
they will eventually care but right now only people that actually know what Hyper-V is and what it does (i believe all in this forum know... ) will actually use it....
just my opinion.....
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21 Dec 2008   #17
echrada

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

You are quire right, normal end users , as I call them, just want it to work. They do not really know or care what goes on inside.
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