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Windows 7 - Windows XP: The Microsoft OS That Just Won't Die |
12-15-2008
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#1 | | Windows 7 Ult x64(x2), HomePrem x32(x4), Server 08 (+VM), 08 R2 (VM) , SuSe 11.2 (VM), XP 32 (VM) |
Windows XP: The Microsoft OS That Just Won't Die Quote: Phasing out an old operating system is nothing new for Microsoft, but Windows XP is unique in that it may be too good to die. This week, Dell announced it will offer systems with the aging Windows XP for a surcharge of $150 over the newer Windows Vista—this only five months after it stopped offering XP on its Inspiron consumer desktop and laptop PCs.
The deadline for Windows XP downgrades has been pushed back twice now, remaining in effect until July 31, 2009—a strong indication that enough users want to stay with the aging XP rather than give Vista a chance. Some of you might be thinking why im a talking about Xp in a Windows 7 forum
because of my favorite line of the whole article.... Quote: "Sinofsky [Windows senior VP Steven Sinofsky] is pretty clear about how his process works. Windows 7 code won't ship until it's ready." Windows XP: The Microsoft OS That Just Won't Die
might it be a success???
only time can tell...
apart from these builds (which are incredible) i believe if MS continues along this path they will have a solid OS...
Last edited by darkassain; 12-15-2008 at 04:27 AM..
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Tx2500z Tablet Pc/Homemade Server OS Windows 7 Ult x64(x2), HomePrem x32(x4), Server 08 (+VM), 08 R2 (VM) , SuSe 11.2 (VM), XP 32 (VM) CPU Turion X2 ultra (oh well came with laptop)/P4 @3.2 (yes P4) Motherboard IDK HP Motherboard / Intel DG965SS Memory OCZ Dual Channel 4GB kit/ 1gb Dual Channel Graphics Card HD 3200 graphics /GMA x3100 (yay for intergrated!!) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio(mic working, well sort of)/Siig IC-70012 Monitor(s) Displays built-in Hp 12" laptop screen/ Acer 19" Screen Resolution 1280x800 /1440x900 Mouse Logi MX Rev. /MS Wheel Optical 1.1A /Logitech Optical Mouse Cooling All Air Cooled Internet Speed College baby but its still routed through vpn to 1536k... Other Info love my wacom pen and pressure sensitivity...
wished it worked in 7, SUSE for that matter though |
12-15-2008
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#2 | | Vista Ult 64 bit Seven Ult RTM x64 |
I think Windows 7 will be a success unless MS throws a wrench in the works. I agree that they should be pushing Vista instead of penalizing XP. If I was buying a comp and didn't want Vista I'd be teed off to have to pay another 150 for an older OS. Seems all that will do is make things worse for MS, not better. Their actions make it appear that they don't like Vista either. They should do a lot more to show that it is a good OS.
Gary | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell XPS420 OS Vista Ult 64 bit Seven Ult RTM x64 CPU Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 2.40 gigahertz Memory Crucial Ballistix 4x2GB PC2 6400 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS 256 MB Sound Card Creative SB X-Fi audio Monitor(s) Displays HP w2207 + HPvs15 Screen Resolution 1680x1050 + 1024x768 Keyboard Microsoft Comfort Curve Mouse MX Revolution Hard Drives 2-WD5000AAKS-500 GB
WD5000AAV-500 GB external Other Info Wacom Intuos 2 Graphics Tablet
Experience Index=5.5 |
12-15-2008
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#3 | | Vista Ultimate SP2/Windows 7 Ultimate SP1/x64/XP SP3 x86 in VM |
I hope that Windows 7 is released "when it's ready" and not, like was the case with Vista, rushed out the door with all kinds of "bits" missing.
So far it appears that they are on the right track. Personally I like Vista, but it is a bit of a resource hog, and they seem to be getting away from that in 7. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Alienware® ALX X58 OS Vista Ultimate SP2/Windows 7 Ultimate SP1/x64/XP SP3 x86 in VM CPU Intel® Core™ i7-975 Extreme O/C to 4.02 GHz, 8MB Cache Motherboard Asus® P6T Deluxe V2 X58 LGA1366 Memory 12GB DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz - 6 x 2048MB Graphics Card 1792 MB NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 295/Hauppauge HVR2250 TV Tuner Sound Card Onboard Soundmax® High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio Monitor(s) Displays Samsung XL2370 LED backlit 23" W/S 2ms response time Screen Resolution 1920 X 1080 Keyboard Microsoft® Wireless Entertainment 8000 + Logitech® G15 Wired Mouse Microsoft® Wireless Laser 8000 + Logitech® G9 Wired PSU Alienware® 1200 Watt Multi-GPU Case Alienware® P2 ALX Chassis with AlienIce™ 3.0 Video Cooling Cooling Alienware® High-Perf. Liquid Cooling + Acoustic Dampening Hard Drives 2 x 500gb SATA II
1 x 1TB SATA II
1 external eSATA LaCie 1TB
(Non-RAID) Internet Speed 28mbps Other Info Using non-RAID on purpose as I find RAID to be too temperamental.
I've noticed no difference since switching. |
12-15-2008
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 |
Could the $150 downgrade just be a case of Dell jumping on the general Anti Vista FUD bandwagon and using it to make a bit of money, and get rid of it's old stock of XP disks
or is that me being cynical | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Real World Computing (Me + a little help from Acer) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1035T 2.6 GHz Motherboard Aspire M3400 Memory 4Gb PC10600 DDR3 1333 MHz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 315 512MB Sound Card OnBoard - Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Philips 32" HDTV, (HDMI) + 26" TV (VGA) Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 @60Hz + 1360 x 768 @60Hz Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) Mouse Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) PSU Stock (400W) Case Acer M3400 Cooling Stock Hard Drives 500 GB Seagate ST3500418AS SATA II
1 TB Hitachi HDS5C1010CLA382 SATAII
1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F1 HD103SI SATA II (external)
Plus various other (client ) HDDs as needed Internet Speed Temporaray 3G Dongle Other Info USB Capture + Webcam(s)
Also run Acer AspireOne 530h Netbook, Dual Core Atom + 1GB (Win7 Ult x86) |
12-15-2008
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#5 | | Vista Ult 64 bit Seven Ult RTM x64 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 Could the $150 downgrade just be a case of Dell jumping on the general Anti Vista FUD bandwagon and using it to make a bit of money, and get rid of it's old stock of XP disks
or is that me being cynical  I'm not too impressed with Dell, so it wouldn't take much to convince me.
Gary | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell XPS420 OS Vista Ult 64 bit Seven Ult RTM x64 CPU Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 2.40 gigahertz Memory Crucial Ballistix 4x2GB PC2 6400 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS 256 MB Sound Card Creative SB X-Fi audio Monitor(s) Displays HP w2207 + HPvs15 Screen Resolution 1680x1050 + 1024x768 Keyboard Microsoft Comfort Curve Mouse MX Revolution Hard Drives 2-WD5000AAKS-500 GB
WD5000AAV-500 GB external Other Info Wacom Intuos 2 Graphics Tablet
Experience Index=5.5 |
12-15-2008
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#6 | | |
windows XP is a GREAT OS !!!, it will go down in history as one of the best.
but its time time to move on, i really hope all those vista hating XP dinosaurs don't see Windows 7 as a vista refresh b/c the ignorance will start all over again...
thousands put off by the fact that Windows 7 ''is like vista'' when these ppl haven't even tried vista, they just jump on the hatred bandwagon..
now M$ have a battle to move Windows 7 away from anything ''vista'' to grab back that huge chunk of the market which currently sit on the fence...
IMO  SK | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number myself OS SEVEN x64 CPU Q9450 @ 3.6GHZ 1.34v Motherboard ASUS P5K PREMIUM P35 Memory 8GB 1066 buffalo firestix @ 1152mhz CL5 Graphics Card Sapphire HD 5970 + GTX260 (physX) Sound Card Creative X-FI Xtreme Gamer Monitor(s) Displays SAMSUNG 20'' & SAMSUNG 23'' (dual screens) Screen Resolution 2048x1152 & 1680x1050 Keyboard LOGITECH E110 Mouse logitech NX5 PSU XCILIO 850w (78A) Case CM590 1x 120x38mm & 2x92x38mm / 4x 120x25mm Cooling AC7 PRO @ 92x38mm blower, Lamptron military bus bay controll Hard Drives 1x seagate 160gb IDE & 1x seagate 160gb SATA Internet Speed 2MB Other Info its a continual ''work in progress''.... |
12-15-2008
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ult x64(x2), HomePrem x32(x4), Server 08 (+VM), 08 R2 (VM) , SuSe 11.2 (VM), XP 32 (VM) |

Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 Could the $150 downgrade just be a case of Dell jumping on the general Anti Vista FUD bandwagon and using it to make a bit of money, and get rid of it's old stock of XP disks
or is that me being cynical  yes its just you... 
Quote: Originally Posted by skunksmash windows XP is a GREAT OS !!!, it will go down in history as one of the best.
but its time time to move on, i really hope all those vista hating XP dinosaurs don't see Windows 7 as a vista refresh b/c the ignorance will start all over again...
thousands put off by the fact that Windows 7 ''is like vista'' when these ppl haven't even tried vista, they just jump on the hatred bandwagon..
now M$ have a battle to move Windows 7 away from anything ''vista'' to grab back that huge chunk of the market which currently sit on the fence...
IMO  SK i hope you are reffering to WinXp SP2 right???
i remember when everyone started bashing WinXP in the beginig (cuz it was the cool thing to do yet everyone had some form of windows xp at home or work) and now look at the people that dont want to let go...
but i love MS's Adverts on their website...
theres this one who knows nothing of an OS (or what it is) works....
and she is saying how smart vista is....
sorry but i was LMAOing all the time (sorry couldnt help...  )
if MS could made usuable for girl like that then everything is possible...  
as long as its stable of course and not memory demanding... 
i already know vista is way more secure than xp so i wont go there... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Tx2500z Tablet Pc/Homemade Server OS Windows 7 Ult x64(x2), HomePrem x32(x4), Server 08 (+VM), 08 R2 (VM) , SuSe 11.2 (VM), XP 32 (VM) CPU Turion X2 ultra (oh well came with laptop)/P4 @3.2 (yes P4) Motherboard IDK HP Motherboard / Intel DG965SS Memory OCZ Dual Channel 4GB kit/ 1gb Dual Channel Graphics Card HD 3200 graphics /GMA x3100 (yay for intergrated!!) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio(mic working, well sort of)/Siig IC-70012 Monitor(s) Displays built-in Hp 12" laptop screen/ Acer 19" Screen Resolution 1280x800 /1440x900 Mouse Logi MX Rev. /MS Wheel Optical 1.1A /Logitech Optical Mouse Cooling All Air Cooled Internet Speed College baby but its still routed through vpn to 1536k... Other Info love my wacom pen and pressure sensitivity...
wished it worked in 7, SUSE for that matter though |
12-15-2008
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 |
Hey DA,
It's not just me - the lady who brought the cake agreed | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Real World Computing (Me + a little help from Acer) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1035T 2.6 GHz Motherboard Aspire M3400 Memory 4Gb PC10600 DDR3 1333 MHz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 315 512MB Sound Card OnBoard - Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Philips 32" HDTV, (HDMI) + 26" TV (VGA) Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 @60Hz + 1360 x 768 @60Hz Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) Mouse Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) PSU Stock (400W) Case Acer M3400 Cooling Stock Hard Drives 500 GB Seagate ST3500418AS SATA II
1 TB Hitachi HDS5C1010CLA382 SATAII
1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F1 HD103SI SATA II (external)
Plus various other (client ) HDDs as needed Internet Speed Temporaray 3G Dongle Other Info USB Capture + Webcam(s)
Also run Acer AspireOne 530h Netbook, Dual Core Atom + 1GB (Win7 Ult x86) |
12-15-2008
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#9 | | Windows 7 Ult x64(x2), HomePrem x32(x4), Server 08 (+VM), 08 R2 (VM) , SuSe 11.2 (VM), XP 32 (VM) |
What Cake... 
Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 Hey DA,
It's not just me - the lady who brought the cake agreed  LMAO
+1
as to this cake you are referring to is physical or metaphysical...???
lol
as to the dell xp issue i guess i was one of the lucky ones to get it for free..
(as i was donated a Dell Machine that was burned out (litteraly...lol) and on the inside had a Xp disc...
(regular dell oem disc (no bloat no nothing SP2 too)...
i just think that dell sees a potential market to make money out of loyal xp fans (with the emphasis on loyal)
or they have invested so much in vista that they would rather see the warehouse stockpile with Vista Comps go (with Vista for no extra charge) than having to rip out vista and having to use their more time to bring out drivers for both XP and Vista.... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Tx2500z Tablet Pc/Homemade Server OS Windows 7 Ult x64(x2), HomePrem x32(x4), Server 08 (+VM), 08 R2 (VM) , SuSe 11.2 (VM), XP 32 (VM) CPU Turion X2 ultra (oh well came with laptop)/P4 @3.2 (yes P4) Motherboard IDK HP Motherboard / Intel DG965SS Memory OCZ Dual Channel 4GB kit/ 1gb Dual Channel Graphics Card HD 3200 graphics /GMA x3100 (yay for intergrated!!) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio(mic working, well sort of)/Siig IC-70012 Monitor(s) Displays built-in Hp 12" laptop screen/ Acer 19" Screen Resolution 1280x800 /1440x900 Mouse Logi MX Rev. /MS Wheel Optical 1.1A /Logitech Optical Mouse Cooling All Air Cooled Internet Speed College baby but its still routed through vpn to 1536k... Other Info love my wacom pen and pressure sensitivity...
wished it worked in 7, SUSE for that matter though |
12-15-2008
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#10 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 |
Hi Da Quote: as to this cake you are referring to is physical or metaphysical...??? No I'm sure it was chocolate  Mmmmmmmmm
As for Dell they haven't been so successful in the business by ignoring a business opportunity | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Real World Computing (Me + a little help from Acer) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1035T 2.6 GHz Motherboard Aspire M3400 Memory 4Gb PC10600 DDR3 1333 MHz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 315 512MB Sound Card OnBoard - Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Philips 32" HDTV, (HDMI) + 26" TV (VGA) Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 @60Hz + 1360 x 768 @60Hz Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) Mouse Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) PSU Stock (400W) Case Acer M3400 Cooling Stock Hard Drives 500 GB Seagate ST3500418AS SATA II
1 TB Hitachi HDS5C1010CLA382 SATAII
1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F1 HD103SI SATA II (external)
Plus various other (client ) HDDs as needed Internet Speed Temporaray 3G Dongle Other Info USB Capture + Webcam(s)
Also run Acer AspireOne 530h Netbook, Dual Core Atom + 1GB (Win7 Ult x86) All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:36 PM. |  |