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Windows 7: Possible Release Date ?

16 Dec 2008   #11
echrada

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 View Post
Hi All

To be totally honest I don't think M$ can afford to release Windows 7 as any thing other than "finished".
I agree, they cannot afford to have to fix an o/s with a service pack again!


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16 Dec 2008   #12
garysgold

Vista Ult 64 bit Seven Ult RTM x64
 
 

They must know that not having all their ducks in a row at the release of seven would be devastating to their bottom line over the long haul. There will be enough complaining from the folks moving from XP to Seven without having stuff broken or missing. I'm sure they don't want to go through that again.

Gary
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16 Dec 2008   #13
smarteyeball

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by johngalt View Post
The problem with this is that a lot of people were going gaga over Longhorn - and then M$, for whatever reason, decided to cut out features that were most appreciate in Longhorn and deliver us Vista.
One of the foremost reasons people hate Vista. That and it wouldn't run on thier 386SX25 with 2mb Ram...
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16 Dec 2008   #14
darkassain

Windows 7 Ult x64(x2), HomePrem x32(x4), Server 08 (+VM), 08 R2 (VM) , SuSe 11.2 (VM), XP 32 (VM)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by smarteyeball View Post
One of the foremost reasons people hate Vista. That and it wouldn't run on thier 386SX25 with 2mb Ram...

you still running one...


but yes it is agreed...
they took things out broke a few things...
but 7 has to be eyecandy+speed...
thats [supposedly the no.1 complaint]
that and the ballmer scandal of lowering the requirements for intel....
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16 Dec 2008   #15
johngalt

 

Well, here is the thing - I always use the 'Show OS Boot information' setting in MSConfig - and Vista RTM it flew by, but on Vista SP1 it slowed down - tremendously. The OS itself was a lot faster after that part of the boot, including application timing and whatnot....

However, after I installed W7 as a second OS in a dual boot scenario, a curious thing happened - the OS Boot info screen for ***VISTA*** sped back up to (or even surpassing) the speed I encountered with the original Vista RTM.

Also, I'd like to make one comment - not all the FUD surrounding Vista was untrue - it is definitely a slower OS because it is more massive - but at least in Vista I can do things like kill and restart things like the VDDM and explorer.exe without having to reboot the OS - I mean, c'mon, I have to reboot XP if I switch from SLI to non SLI and vice versa!!!!
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16 Dec 2008   #16
darkassain

Windows 7 Ult x64(x2), HomePrem x32(x4), Server 08 (+VM), 08 R2 (VM) , SuSe 11.2 (VM), XP 32 (VM)
 
 

wow john that is a weird anomaly you got there....
maybe using w7 boot files???
and yes i know vista is not the angel we all know 7 is...lol
but they were too lenient on the vista specs...
i remember installing vista ultimate on my desktop
x3100 while yes it does employ the WDDM driver for aero i turned it off...

vista to me is tangled cables on the inside while in 7 they tidied it up on the inside (they indirectly said that the cleaned the kernel code...)
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16 Dec 2008   #17
johngalt

 

I think it has *everything* to using the W7 boot files....

And it is not just the specs (for the Works with Vista logo certification program) that hurt Vista - it also includes things like removing half of the features that made Longhorn fun to test, and selling an OS that they *knew* had issues - major issues - to the public. I swear I almost went back to RC 1 after I had been running RTM for about 2 months...until SP1 came out RTM was continually getting reinstalled to the tune to once every other month....
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17 Dec 2008   #18
darkassain

Windows 7 Ult x64(x2), HomePrem x32(x4), Server 08 (+VM), 08 R2 (VM) , SuSe 11.2 (VM), XP 32 (VM)
 
 

so then it is agreed that that at rtm vista was a half a**ed attempt to cut back on the features that RC1 had...
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