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Windows 7: Beta invites have started being sent out.

24 Dec 2008   #81
garysgold

Vista Ult 64 bit Seven Ult RTM x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DiamondNRG View Post
They better not do that. That would seriously damage my love for Microsoft. Keeping the 32bit around is a good idea, but it is time to put the x64 release into the #1 priority spot. It should no longer always be a "later" thing.
I agree, sort of. The 64bit W7 that I have installed still has many more issues than either of the W7 32 bit that I have installed and I would rather it came out a bit later and worked than come out at the same time and have problems.

Gary


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24 Dec 2008   #82
DiamondNRG

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by garysgold View Post
I agree, sort of. The 64bit W7 that I have installed still has many more issues than either of the W7 32 bit that I have installed and I would rather it came out a bit later and worked than come out at the same time and have problems.

Gary
I agree with that, except the reason that the 64 bit is lagging behind in terms of stuff is probably because they were focusing too much on the 32 bit already ... which is not a good sign at all! Or perhaps the issues are software related issues that are not Microsoft's fault?
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24 Dec 2008   #83
garysgold

Vista Ult 64 bit Seven Ult RTM x64
 
 

I'm sure it has to do with both MS and the software vendors. No flash player for 64 bit IE is a glaring example, but whenever I use 6936 x64, I cannot click on Disk Management without the window crashing. It says loading the disk info. and then nothing. That doesn't happen in either of the 32 bit builds I'm running. That is a MS problem or might be that I need to reinstall, but I'm just going to wait for the beta.

I do agree that it's time for 32bit to go the way of 16bit, but all the ducks must be in a row first and some of the ducks haven't been very cooperative of late. I seem to remember reading that Vista was supposed to be the last 32 bit Windows, but obviously something or someone convinced MS otherwise.

Gary
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24 Dec 2008   #84
darkassain

Windows 7 Ult x64(x2), HomePrem x32(x4), Server 08 (+VM), 08 R2 (VM) , SuSe 11.2 (VM), XP 32 (VM)
 
 

32 bit is still the mainstream...
i know
i know
64 bit is growing but right now its not there yet..
one example stoping 64 bit is the flash and adobe either being stubborn and only distributing 32 bit (only allowing 32 bit browsers to use it) or that it is that hard to develop it

but either way most OEM's dont see the need yet (said most i know for the fact that the big OEM's do offer 64 bit [i got 64 from hp])

and i really hate how they handled the patchguard and how they not give enough power to run programs such as sanboxie (which has legitamate uses to acess protected memory)

if ms were to bring a light sanbox (meaning that it would allow competition also have acess) i will change my mind

but my relationship with 64 vista and W7 is both of love and hate...lol


edit opps took too long to reply...lol



Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by garysgold View Post
I seem to remember reading that Vista was supposed to be the last 32 bit Windows, but obviously something or someone convinced MS otherwise.

Gary

or they might be scared....lol
of the outlash that will happen with 64 is more or less the "locked-down" in the kernel (patchguard)
i would see that it can be possible to both integrate both (patchguard)(AV and FW that need kernel patching) with the use of certificates...
the only you can access the kernel is with a legitimate cert.
(like the way drivers need certificates to actually use 64-bit drivers)


i cant wait till this happens

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The idea is that our future operating systems would always be running inside a virtual machine under the watchful eye of an OS "hypervisor." This has not been practical before now, without hardware support for virtualization, because virtualization required too much real-time involvement of software which introduced an unacceptable amount of overhead and slowed everything down. Hardware virtualization means that virtual machines - and even the entire operating system running inside a virtual machine container - would be able to run at 100% full speed, thus making a persistent security-oriented OS "hypervisor" practical for the first time.
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24 Dec 2008   #85
NormCameron

Vista X32. Windows 7 32bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DiamondNRG View Post
I did a copy of his entire blog to my hard disk. There is no .ISO ... he is lying.
I know, I know, There's always one.

Norm
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26 Dec 2008   #86
DiamondNRG

 

The disk management works fine on my install of 6936. But either way it is just a bug, and I am sure 6956 has it's share as well. Not that it will matter much with all the x86 kiddies only hours away from all getting to run 7000 instead

I hate you Microsoft. leak the good one.
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26 Dec 2008   #87
darkassain

Windows 7 Ult x64(x2), HomePrem x32(x4), Server 08 (+VM), 08 R2 (VM) , SuSe 11.2 (VM), XP 32 (VM)
 
 

be nice Diamond....
everyone has there different views on much archecture is good for them...
i can tell you this since i have both 32 and 64 machines in my house (damm stupid sound card doesnt have 64-bit drivers even online cant buy a new one as not enough money after christmas.. )
sure i have gotten my share of doubts and i also know 64 is the future but i also hate MS and the patchguard fiasco (i like to call it that).....
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27 Dec 2008   #88
DiamondNRG

 

Haha, yeah, I was kidding though. I love Microsoft to pieces.
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27 Dec 2008   #89
z3r010

 

Yup it realy hurt me to put an x86 build on my system.....what a waste
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27 Dec 2008   #90
DiamondNRG

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by z3r010 View Post
Yup it realy hurt me to put an x86 build on my system.....what a waste
Yup, yours is a bit better than mine, and I still haven't convinced myself to do it. You must have been crying!
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