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12-18-2008
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It would be nice if Microsoft made a decision to target consumers instead of OEM providers. As a consumer we get hosed by OEM. What is especially troubling is that the consumer is never told or made aware of what the OEM guidelines are. In fact, go to Dell, HP, Sony, Polywell, Alien, etc., and when you go to purchase a computer and check on the "Vista Ultimate" you get the hefty price...which is fair...but you are not told the it is OEM, and what the limitations are of owning such. The consumer should have the right to choose between OEM or non-OEM software. I would prefer non-OEM...or standard retail software.
As a consumer I assume that when I pay $150 or whatever it is for "Vista Ultimate," that the software is mine. But, according to OEM it is not mine. I do not have the legal right to sell it...try to sell it on eBay and see how long it takes for MS to pull it off of the auction block. According to OEM, the purchased software is to remain on one computer only. So, if I decide to trash a box that is four years old and has been running an OEM version of Win XP, then I cannot transfer it to my new build. In my case, I wanted to sell my XP Pro to help finance a buy of Vista Ultimate for a new build. No dice. MS pulled my sell.
In all fairness, MS should start working with us consumers. We are the one's who buy and who want upgrades. What would be the advantage of some vendor offering upgrades? It is in their best interests to make a computer sale, and they have no real reason really to offer upgrades. It might sound nice, but what is the reality of it actually happening to the extent that all consumers who are elgible to participate are actually able to do so?
In the end MS will look pretty for making the offer, but it is the individual consumer who will end-up holding the original software that he started out with.
Given the hand-cuffing of the consumer that takes place with OEM software, then why doesn't MS give the consumer the opportunity to choose? Personally, I would be willing to pay more for software that I can legally sale sometime down the road and I don't think that I am alone on this. The vendor naturally will go where costs are lower, this is natural. But, if given guidance by big daddy software company then they will follow suit.
| My System Specs | | OS Vista Ultimate CPU Intel E8500 Motherboard Asus P5K Delux Memory 4GB DDR3 1333MHz Patriot Graphics Card ATI HD 2900XT Sound Card E-Mu 1820m Monitor(s) Displays HP 2408 + HP 1955 Screen Resolution 1920X1200 Keyboard Enermax Aluminum Mouse Logitech Revolution PSU 700W Hard Drives 2 Seagate 80GB RAID 0
3Ware 9650SE Internet Speed Cable Other Info E-Mu active studio monitors, 2 TB external drive, Countryman, Beyerdyanamic 790 headphones, Xerox 510 Scanner, Epson Photo R1800, Canan PC430 Copier, Sharp Fax, Brother Laser, |
12-18-2008
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#12 | | Windows 7 Ult x64(x2), HomePrem x32(x4), Server 08 (+VM), 08 R2 (VM) , SuSe 11.2 (VM), XP 32 (VM) |
hey yoder welcome to the Windows 7 forums
and i completely agree
but who's the one with the one with the money...
oem???
(sigh)
sometimes money does make the world round | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Tx2500z Tablet Pc/Homemade Server OS Windows 7 Ult x64(x2), HomePrem x32(x4), Server 08 (+VM), 08 R2 (VM) , SuSe 11.2 (VM), XP 32 (VM) CPU Turion X2 ultra (oh well came with laptop)/P4 @3.2 (yes P4) Motherboard IDK HP Motherboard / Intel DG965SS Memory OCZ Dual Channel 4GB kit/ 1gb Dual Channel Graphics Card HD 3200 graphics /GMA x3100 (yay for intergrated!!) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio(mic working, well sort of)/Siig IC-70012 Monitor(s) Displays built-in Hp 12" laptop screen/ Acer 19" Screen Resolution 1280x800 /1440x900 Mouse Logi MX Rev. /MS Wheel Optical 1.1A /Logitech Optical Mouse Cooling All Air Cooled Internet Speed College baby but its still routed through vpn to 1536k... Other Info love my wacom pen and pressure sensitivity...
wished it worked in 7, SUSE for that matter though |
12-19-2008
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#13 | | Vista X32. Windows 7 32bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by Yoder54 It would be nice if Microsoft made a decision to target consumers instead of OEM providers. As a consumer we get hosed by OEM. What is especially troubling is that the consumer is never told or made aware of what the OEM guidelines are. In fact, go to Dell, HP, Sony, Polywell, Alien, etc., and when you go to purchase a computer and check on the "Vista Ultimate" you get the hefty price...which is fair...but you are not told the it is OEM, and what the limitations are of owning such. The consumer should have the right to choose between OEM or non-OEM software. I would prefer non-OEM...or standard retail software.
As a consumer I assume that when I pay $150 or whatever it is for "Vista Ultimate," that the software is mine. But, according to OEM it is not mine. I do not have the legal right to sell it...try to sell it on eBay and see how long it takes for MS to pull it off of the auction block. According to OEM, the purchased software is to remain on one computer only. So, if I decide to trash a box that is four years old and has been running an OEM version of Win XP, then I cannot transfer it to my new build. In my case, I wanted to sell my XP Pro to help finance a buy of Vista Ultimate for a new build. No dice. MS pulled my sell.
In all fairness, MS should start working with us consumers. We are the one's who buy and who want upgrades. What would be the advantage of some vendor offering upgrades? It is in their best interests to make a computer sale, and they have no real reason really to offer upgrades. It might sound nice, but what is the reality of it actually happening to the extent that all consumers who are elgible to participate are actually able to do so?
In the end MS will look pretty for making the offer, but it is the individual consumer who will end-up holding the original software that he started out with.
Given the hand-cuffing of the consumer that takes place with OEM software, then why doesn't MS give the consumer the opportunity to choose? Personally, I would be willing to pay more for software that I can legally sale sometime down the road and I don't think that I am alone on this. The vendor naturally will go where costs are lower, this is natural. But, if given guidance by big daddy software company then they will follow suit. Totally agree Yoder. And welcome to the forums. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Built OS Vista X32. Windows 7 32bit CPU Intel Quad Core 6600 Motherboard Asus P5B Memory 4096 MB Xtreme-Dark 800mhz Graphics Card Zotac Amp Edition 8800GT - 512MB DDR3, O/C 700mhz Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 206BW Screen Resolution 1680 X 1024 Keyboard Microsoft Mouse Targus PSU 550 w Case Thermaltake Cooling 3 x octua NF-S12-1200 - 120mm 1200RPM Sound Optimised Fans Hard Drives 4 X Samsung 500GB 7200rpm Serial ATA-II HDD w. 16MB Cache . Internet Speed 1500kbs All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:37 PM. |  |