| Windows 7: can a burnt vid card stop a startup boot? |
12 Aug 2010
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#1 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit sp1 Laguna Hills Southern California |
can a burnt vid card stop a startup boot? Ok here is the question my cousin brought his old p4 to me for a upgrade he is only able to run ddr2100 266mhz max ram i dont know his cpu exactly but pretty much first start and mind you this is the set up he had already with a 256 mb mem chip installed
nothing happened not even a beep so i went around checking all the connections so forth but then i noticed the video cards fan wasn't spinning could this cause a pc malfuntion that would keep it from booting? | My System Specs |
| Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by me FX - Series Scorpious OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit sp1 CPU Vishera FX 8350 Oc' 4.812Ghz 1.488 V-core full load 50c Motherboard Asus Sabertooth 990fx rev 2.0 Memory 16gb Corsair Vengeance ram 1600mhz Oc'ed to 1750mhz Graphics Card VisionTek HD7970 Ghz.ed Bios Crossfire 1150/1560 power 10% Sound Card AC97 Monitor(s) Displays 27" ViewSonic 1920/1080dp hdmi 37in vizio hdmi dual monitors Screen Resolution 1920x1080 27"- 1920x1080 37" Keyboard Logitech wireless keyboard Mouse Logitech wireless mouse PSU HX1050w Corsair Silver 80plus certified crosfire/sli Case Thermaltake Element V Cooling Antec 620 Water cooling system and 4 120 mm LED fans Hard Drives Ocz Agility 120Gb SSD Seagate baracuda 500 Gb WD Mybook 500Gb Internet Speed Cable 25+ mb Antivirus WebRoot Spysweeper with Antivirus Browser IE-9, Chrome, Opera Other Info I have 2 systems FX AM3+ 8350-K15 Oc'ed 4.812Ghz AM2+ 965 BE Stock 3.4 Ghz Both stable Both Gaming Rigs Also Hp Notebook 1.65 ghz Dual core amd E-450 8gb Patriot Ram DDR3 Discrete Gpu Hd6320 dedicated ram 1973 mb 15.5 screen |
12 Aug 2010
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#2 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
At boot, the BIOS checks all the components in the system. I am not certain how it would react to a defunct Graphics, but I am certain it would not boot because it could not even display anything on the monitor.
Whether a fan can do that though, I am not sure. Maybe the fan sets only in when a certain temperature is reached. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
12 Aug 2010
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#3 | | Windows 7 ultimate 64 bit / XP Home sp3 Gulf Coast Texas |
if the card is fried you should get 1 long and 2 short beeps upon startup providing you have the speaker hooked up on your motherboard.
Award bios beep codes BiosCentral - Award BIOS Beep Codes assuming it's an award bios.
Generally the video card fan spins upon startup, unlesss the cards bios tells it to wait till a certian temp.
Are you able to see the startup screen or is their no no display at all? this would be an indication your card is fried. Fabe | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Built OS Windows 7 ultimate 64 bit / XP Home sp3 CPU intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0ghz Motherboard Asus P5ND bios 1401 Memory 8 gigs 1066 OCZ Fata1ty Graphics Card EVGA GTX 580 Call of Duty Black Ops Edition Sound Card Creative Soundblaster Audigy 2zs Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24in LCD's 2MS X2 Screen Resolution 1920x1080p @60Hz Keyboard Logitech Bluetooth Wireless MX5000 Mouse Logitech Bluetooth Wireless MX1000 PSU OCZ 700W GameXtreme Case NZXT Apollo Cooling Corsair H50 CPU/120mm x3 /60mm x2 /Corsair Dominator Ram Hard Drives WD Caviar 500 Black/ WD Caviar 200 Blue Internet Speed Download 19.83 Upload 0.97 Other Info Logitech Z2300 Speakers/ Bose Noise Cancelling Headphones/Avermedia PCI-e Hybrid TV Bravo/Epson NX415 all in one/ 4 Port Powered USB Hub/ LG 10x Bluray Burner /TSST Corp DVDRW External |
12 Aug 2010
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#4 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit sp1 Laguna Hills Southern California |
well reason im asking is my cousin said before he brought the compuiter to me it was working i didnt touch anything and then i tryed to fire it up and nothing i checked everything swaped drives ect
no beeps heard i really didnt even hear the harddrive spin
after that i looked at the little card for the monitor the fan was inmobile so i figured maybe the card burnt out cause i basicly told him his system died untill i seen the card fan not spinning so i figure i might be able to save it
if not i guess hell have to invest in a better system basicly he just wanted to upgrade the ram cause he is running programs that makes his system way to slow
but why would i put new ram in a machine that doesnt even boot ?
so i am really open to suggestions cause it doesnt make sense if it was running and when i get it it is not unless he is lying about it working before it got to me but i doubt he'll do that lol | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by me FX - Series Scorpious OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit sp1 CPU Vishera FX 8350 Oc' 4.812Ghz 1.488 V-core full load 50c Motherboard Asus Sabertooth 990fx rev 2.0 Memory 16gb Corsair Vengeance ram 1600mhz Oc'ed to 1750mhz Graphics Card VisionTek HD7970 Ghz.ed Bios Crossfire 1150/1560 power 10% Sound Card AC97 Monitor(s) Displays 27" ViewSonic 1920/1080dp hdmi 37in vizio hdmi dual monitors Screen Resolution 1920x1080 27"- 1920x1080 37" Keyboard Logitech wireless keyboard Mouse Logitech wireless mouse PSU HX1050w Corsair Silver 80plus certified crosfire/sli Case Thermaltake Element V Cooling Antec 620 Water cooling system and 4 120 mm LED fans Hard Drives Ocz Agility 120Gb SSD Seagate baracuda 500 Gb WD Mybook 500Gb Internet Speed Cable 25+ mb Antivirus WebRoot Spysweeper with Antivirus Browser IE-9, Chrome, Opera Other Info I have 2 systems FX AM3+ 8350-K15 Oc'ed 4.812Ghz AM2+ 965 BE Stock 3.4 Ghz Both stable Both Gaming Rigs Also Hp Notebook 1.65 ghz Dual core amd E-450 8gb Patriot Ram DDR3 Discrete Gpu Hd6320 dedicated ram 1973 mb 15.5 screen |
12 Aug 2010
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#5 | | Win 7 Pro x64/Win Server 2008 R2 Canada |
I'm gonna ask a question, and just so you don't think I'm trying to be insulting, I'll tell a little story first.
I was doing some work in my new build a couple of weeks ago. I was putting in a bigger CPU fan. When I set it all back up, there was no boot. No power, no lights... I thought I had screwed something up for sure. I checked and checked everything inside the case, scratched my head, and was a bout to have a full on breakdown because I'd broken my brand new machine. Then I remembered that I had shut off the main power switch on the back of the power supply.
Your cousin didn't turn off that little switch by any chance?
And a broken anything can keep the PC from booting up. I just fried a RAM stick last weekend, and the machine just froze. When I tried to reboot, it was a no go. No status beeps or HDD activity. It just sat there dead until I shut it off and pulled out the bad stick, so you can't always count on the diagnostic beeps. But if the GPU fan isn't turning, I'd suspect a power issue first. Pull the card and see if the PC will boot without it, then put it back in. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Mellon Labs OS Win 7 Pro x64/Win Server 2008 R2 CPU Phenom II X4 955 BE @ 3400 Motherboard ASUS M4A79XTD EVO Memory 8 GB Mushkin Blackline DDR3-12800 @ 1600 7-7-7-20 Graphics Card 2 x Sapphire Radeon 1GB 4670 - Crossfire Sound Card VIA HD Audio on MB. Sounds great. Monitor(s) Displays Acer 23" HDMI Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech G15 Mouse MS Comfort 3000 optical PSU OCZ Stealthstream 600 Case Antec 200 Cooling Coolermaster V8 w/AS 5, too many fans. Hard Drives 1 x WD Silicon Edge 64GB SSD
1 x WD 160GB SATA
1 x WD 500GB SATA Internet Speed Fast enough, kinda, but I'm in Canada. Waaay overpriced. :( Other Info A Mellon Labs X-1 - LCD Smartie driven system status display.
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12 Aug 2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by Mellon Head
And a broken anything can keep the PC from booting up.
Pull the card and see if the PC will boot without it, then put it back in. Yep.
If it's still dead in the water (nothing happening at all - not even error beeps) after removing the card - then the issue lies elsewhere.
Considering the age of the machine, I'm guessing it's probably an AGP card and not a PCI-E (for testing purposes)
Alternatively, does that motherboard have integrated video by any chance?
Also, did you remove the existing RAM prior to firing it up? | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number SmartEyeball Inc OS 8 Pro x64 CPU i7 3770K 4.6GHz Motherboard ASUS P8Z77 WS Memory 16GB G.Skill Trident X 2400mhz Graphics Card 3x Gigabyte GTX 670 OC WindForce *TRI SLI* Sound Card ALC898 / 5.1 receiver/ ATH-AD900 Headphones Monitor(s) Displays x3 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung / "40 Sony Screen Resolution 5760*1200/ 1920*1200 / 1920*1080 Keyboard Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine MX Black // Filco Ninja TKL Mouse Razer Imperator + Thermaltake Theron PSU Corsair AX1200W Case Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow Edition Cooling Noctua NH-D14 Hard Drives 2x Intel 520 240GB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0) * 2TB WD Caviar Black Antivirus MSE Browser IE, FF Other Info GT Extreme V2 Sim Racing Cockpit + 40" LCD and K/B Mouse stand ▼
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12 Aug 2010
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#7 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit sp1 Laguna Hills Southern California |
well the switch i turn it off and on to work on it so that is not a issue and the card is agp and the only device in there to use for monitor he told me he got it from best buy like 5 years ago
I told him for what they sold him they didn't give him anything everything was bottom of the barrell and never to buy from there again
the card itself i have no way of testing im not even using agp anymore and my last agp card 7300gt was sold to a friend a while back
I guess i can turn it on with out the card and see if it beeps cause i cant see any reason it wasnt working the only thing we did to the rig was pull a ram stick out to figure which ram is suited then i went further wrote down the mb specs and looked it up so ..............
I will try to fire it up with no card maybe it will beep ? will reply back | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by me FX - Series Scorpious OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit sp1 CPU Vishera FX 8350 Oc' 4.812Ghz 1.488 V-core full load 50c Motherboard Asus Sabertooth 990fx rev 2.0 Memory 16gb Corsair Vengeance ram 1600mhz Oc'ed to 1750mhz Graphics Card VisionTek HD7970 Ghz.ed Bios Crossfire 1150/1560 power 10% Sound Card AC97 Monitor(s) Displays 27" ViewSonic 1920/1080dp hdmi 37in vizio hdmi dual monitors Screen Resolution 1920x1080 27"- 1920x1080 37" Keyboard Logitech wireless keyboard Mouse Logitech wireless mouse PSU HX1050w Corsair Silver 80plus certified crosfire/sli Case Thermaltake Element V Cooling Antec 620 Water cooling system and 4 120 mm LED fans Hard Drives Ocz Agility 120Gb SSD Seagate baracuda 500 Gb WD Mybook 500Gb Internet Speed Cable 25+ mb Antivirus WebRoot Spysweeper with Antivirus Browser IE-9, Chrome, Opera Other Info I have 2 systems FX AM3+ 8350-K15 Oc'ed 4.812Ghz AM2+ 965 BE Stock 3.4 Ghz Both stable Both Gaming Rigs Also Hp Notebook 1.65 ghz Dual core amd E-450 8gb Patriot Ram DDR3 Discrete Gpu Hd6320 dedicated ram 1973 mb 15.5 screen |
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Quote: Originally Posted by Solarstarshines i cant see any reason it wasnt working the only thing we did to the rig was pull a ram stick out to figure which ram is suited Re-seat the RAM. It may not be be properly seated. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number SmartEyeball Inc OS 8 Pro x64 CPU i7 3770K 4.6GHz Motherboard ASUS P8Z77 WS Memory 16GB G.Skill Trident X 2400mhz Graphics Card 3x Gigabyte GTX 670 OC WindForce *TRI SLI* Sound Card ALC898 / 5.1 receiver/ ATH-AD900 Headphones Monitor(s) Displays x3 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung / "40 Sony Screen Resolution 5760*1200/ 1920*1200 / 1920*1080 Keyboard Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine MX Black // Filco Ninja TKL Mouse Razer Imperator + Thermaltake Theron PSU Corsair AX1200W Case Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow Edition Cooling Noctua NH-D14 Hard Drives 2x Intel 520 240GB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0) * 2TB WD Caviar Black Antivirus MSE Browser IE, FF Other Info GT Extreme V2 Sim Racing Cockpit + 40" LCD and K/B Mouse stand ▼
Fanatec CSR Elite Wheel + Clubsport Pedals + CSR shifter/7GS ▼
Buttkicker v2 Seat Rumbler with Dedicated 5.1 and Sub Woofer attached to frame ▼
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12 Aug 2010
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#9 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit sp1 Laguna Hills Southern California |
well i honestly think his rig is gone the removal of the card and turning it on didnt do anything i chalk it up to his mainboard
the sad thing is he is really persistant on taking to a shop that will tell him the same thing i offered to build a new rig but i don't know if he wants to spend cash which is sad
can't expect much if your not willing to pay for it | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by me FX - Series Scorpious OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit sp1 CPU Vishera FX 8350 Oc' 4.812Ghz 1.488 V-core full load 50c Motherboard Asus Sabertooth 990fx rev 2.0 Memory 16gb Corsair Vengeance ram 1600mhz Oc'ed to 1750mhz Graphics Card VisionTek HD7970 Ghz.ed Bios Crossfire 1150/1560 power 10% Sound Card AC97 Monitor(s) Displays 27" ViewSonic 1920/1080dp hdmi 37in vizio hdmi dual monitors Screen Resolution 1920x1080 27"- 1920x1080 37" Keyboard Logitech wireless keyboard Mouse Logitech wireless mouse PSU HX1050w Corsair Silver 80plus certified crosfire/sli Case Thermaltake Element V Cooling Antec 620 Water cooling system and 4 120 mm LED fans Hard Drives Ocz Agility 120Gb SSD Seagate baracuda 500 Gb WD Mybook 500Gb Internet Speed Cable 25+ mb Antivirus WebRoot Spysweeper with Antivirus Browser IE-9, Chrome, Opera Other Info I have 2 systems FX AM3+ 8350-K15 Oc'ed 4.812Ghz AM2+ 965 BE Stock 3.4 Ghz Both stable Both Gaming Rigs Also Hp Notebook 1.65 ghz Dual core amd E-450 8gb Patriot Ram DDR3 Discrete Gpu Hd6320 dedicated ram 1973 mb 15.5 screen |
12 Aug 2010
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#10 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit sp1 Laguna Hills Southern California |
there was only one stick i took it and put it to the other slot locked the clips into place the clips snapped meaning successfull install i also have the ram he bought for this rig still installing that didnt help and i didnt want to fry it in case we took it back
now i feel it just took a dump i also told him when he brought it to me from his home a distance from me it could have gotten jarred on the trip
just looking into all aspects | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by me FX - Series Scorpious OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit sp1 CPU Vishera FX 8350 Oc' 4.812Ghz 1.488 V-core full load 50c Motherboard Asus Sabertooth 990fx rev 2.0 Memory 16gb Corsair Vengeance ram 1600mhz Oc'ed to 1750mhz Graphics Card VisionTek HD7970 Ghz.ed Bios Crossfire 1150/1560 power 10% Sound Card AC97 Monitor(s) Displays 27" ViewSonic 1920/1080dp hdmi 37in vizio hdmi dual monitors Screen Resolution 1920x1080 27"- 1920x1080 37" Keyboard Logitech wireless keyboard Mouse Logitech wireless mouse PSU HX1050w Corsair Silver 80plus certified crosfire/sli Case Thermaltake Element V Cooling Antec 620 Water cooling system and 4 120 mm LED fans Hard Drives Ocz Agility 120Gb SSD Seagate baracuda 500 Gb WD Mybook 500Gb Internet Speed Cable 25+ mb Antivirus WebRoot Spysweeper with Antivirus Browser IE-9, Chrome, Opera Other Info I have 2 systems FX AM3+ 8350-K15 Oc'ed 4.812Ghz AM2+ 965 BE Stock 3.4 Ghz Both stable Both Gaming Rigs Also Hp Notebook 1.65 ghz Dual core amd E-450 8gb Patriot Ram DDR3 Discrete Gpu Hd6320 dedicated ram 1973 mb 15.5 screen can a burnt vid card stop a startup boot? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:20 AM. | |