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09-06-2010
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#1 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit |
To water cool, or not to water cool...that's the question. So, I was perusing TigerDirect the other day, looking for a really good BBK, found what I wanted and ordered it. However, I know a guy, who knows another guy, that can get me the uber edition of the i7 core for less than TD can. As I was discussing overclocking with him, I brought up water cooling (I'm still old school, MAKE my own cases...ect), he then proceeded to tell me that water cooling was "soooo last decade" and that fans have come a long way...blah blah blah. I've seen a few of the rigs posted on here, and some are still doing WC...is it safe to assume that it's still alive and well?
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09-06-2010
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9 |
Water cooling is by FAR better than air cooling. The guy that talked about fans being better doesn't know that water transfers heat over 10 times better than air. Regardless of how powerful your fans are, a water cooling system will be more efficient.
~Lordbob | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Hera OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9 CPU Intel i5-2500k Motherboard ASUS P8P67 Pro Memory 2x 4Gb Corsair VENGEANCE DDR3-1600 Graphics Card NVidia GeForce N260GTX Twin Frozr Sound Card Realtek HD OnBoard Audio Monitor(s) Displays ASUS 24" Monitor Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Razer Tarantula Mouse Razer Lachesis PSU Cooler Master Real Power Pro 750W Case Cooler Master Haf 932 Cooling Fans Hard Drives G.SKILL Phoenix Series 60GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
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09-06-2010
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#3 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit |
I would agree water is better.
However, many of the better Air Coolers do quite well, for most Overclocking. Unless you are going to really be pushing for very high OCs or trying to get every last bit out of your hardware, a good Air Cooler should do just fine.
This was probably what your friend was meaning.
They are also much cheaper, and to really get the best out of a water set up, its going to cost you, as Im sure you're aware. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom (Self Build) OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU Intel Core i7 2700k (4.5Ghz) Motherboard eVGA P67 SLI Memory 2x4GB Mushkin Redline Ridgebacks (@1866) Graphics Card EVGA GTX570 SuperClocked (1280MB) Sound Card XiFi Titanium HD Monitor(s) Displays LG W2453V Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Saitek Cyborg PSU Seasonic x750 Case Corsair 600T (SE White) Cooling eVGA Superclocked CPU Cooler Hard Drives [OS SSD]Intel 320 (80GB) -- Intel X25-V (40GB) --WD Black (1TB)x2 -- WD Blue (640GB) Other Info LG BD/DVD |
09-06-2010
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Personally, I would use air over water because I don't want the hassle of setting up a water cooling rig. Since I never push overclocking far enough to require it...it's way overkill for my needs. However, if you are going for the max....then I believe water cooling is the best option. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
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09-06-2010
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#5 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 |
There are excellent air coolers now. They can get you to very high OC's. For extreme OC's, you would need to go to water cooling. Water cooling is very efficient, but unless you are planning an extreme OC, it isn't necessary. A Guy | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 CPU INTEL Core i5-750 Quad-Core 3.37GHz Motherboard ASUS P7P55D Memory KINGSTON 4GB (2 x 2GB) HyperX PC3-12800 DDR3 1600MHz CL8 Graphics Card MSI N240GT-MD1G/D5 GeForce GT 240 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster B2430H 24" , SyncMaster P2050 20" Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 , 1440 x 900 PSU ANTEC TruePower New TP-550, 80 PLUS, 550W Case ANTEC Three Hundred Illusion Cooling COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus, 3 x 120mm 1 x 140mm Case Hard Drives Intel X25M Gen2 80GB, SEAGATE 500GB Barracudaź 7200.12, SATA 3 Gb/s, 7200 RPM, 16MB cache Internet Speed 20 + Mbps |
09-16-2010
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Watercooling for sure. My GTX 480's are overclocked from 700MHz stock to 900MHz and memory from 1400 stock to 2100.
Now these things run between 90 to 100 degrees C stock with huge noisy air coolers.
I am running EK waterblocks with a GB pump and a swiftech 2 core 3 fan radiator and under 100% load with the huge overclock they max out at 59 degrees C.
Really there is no question about watercooling. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU i7920 @ 4.0GHz Motherboard Gigagyte X58a UD7 Memory 12GB G-Skill 1600 MHz Graphics Card GTX480 2 way SLI OC 900MHz Water Cooled Sound Card On board Monitor(s) Displays Asus 26 inch Keyboard G15 Mouse MX Revolution PSU Crosair 850 GX Case CM HAF 932 Cooling Corsair H50 CPU, GB pump Swiftech 2 core 3 fan radiator GPU Hard Drives 2 X WD 640 GB SATA3 AAEX, 1 X WD 500 GB AALS Internet Speed Cable Other Info Logitech Z 550D Speakers |
09-16-2010
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90-100C?
What is the ideal temperature supposed to be?
I dont know what my cpu is doing, but I thought my gpu is getting hot at 50C before I put twin fans under it... now it gets to 32-36c
I've recently put a basic Corsair H50 on my CPU any way, just to be | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Enterprise CPU Intel Pentium Dual E2200 @2.2GHz Motherboard Gigabyte II-G31 Memory 4GB Graphics Card Palit GForce 9500GT 1GB Sound Card onBoard Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU 450W Case CoolerMaster CM690 Cooling Corsair H50 Hard Drives WesternDigital: 250GB + 1TB + 1TB + 2TB |
09-16-2010
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#8 | | Windows 7 Enterprise x64 Service Pack 1 |

Quote: Originally Posted by xarden 90-100C?
What is the ideal temperature supposed to be? Well that's if the fan is at stock speeds. Increasing the fan speeds to around 60-70% will give better temps. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built OS Windows 7 Enterprise x64 Service Pack 1 CPU Intel Core i7 920 Motherboard ASUS Sabertooth x58 Memory 6GB XMS3 Corsair 1333MHz Graphics Card ASUS Nvidia Geforce GTX470 SLI Sound Card ASUS Xonar DX/XD 7.1 Monitor(s) Displays Dell 24" S2409W + Dell 20" E207WFP Screen Resolution 1920x1080 + 1680x1050 Keyboard Logitech G11 Keyboard Mouse Logitech G5 Laser Mouse (2007 edition) PSU Corsair HX850 modular Case Coolermaster 690II Advanced Nvidia Edition Cooling Zalman CNPS9700-NT Cooler, 3x 140mm, 2x 120mm Hard Drives 1x 120GB OCZ Vertex 2E, 1x 750GB Western Digital Caviar Black, 1x 1TB Western Digital Caviar Green Internet Speed 100Mbps Other Info LG Blu-Ray player |
09-19-2010
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#9 | | |
Definately go water cooling if heat is an issue for you. If you don't want to go to the work of putting all the different items together you could just use a "Thermaltake Bigwater" system which is a complete system in a box. Personally I use the Thermaltake "Bigwater 760is " and have found it to be very good overall.
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09-28-2010
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GrmReaper,
Looking at your system spec's I would say that if you intend to OC only the CPU then I would consider either a sealed water system which has become all the rage lately like the Cool-it or the Corsair H50/H70's. If you want to take the card up, number one your will want to look at a new card and much high wattage PSU. Soon you are in a whole other ball game adding cost and complexity though the rewards can be great they can also end...poorly. Also look at the air and thermo electric coolers out there like the Ultras or V10 CoolerMaster, they do an amazing job as well. Good luck and may I also recommend reviewing your fan choice as many high output fans don't like pushing through a tight finned radiator and I've gone to Nactura's for just this reason.
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