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Windows 7 - Best direction of fan coolling |
04-15-2011
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#1 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 |
Best direction of fan coolling I am trying to cool down my CPU as efficiently ans I can with my case fans.
I have:
- 80mm fan in front pulling air in (up to 32.11 CFM .. variable from mobo)
- 80mm fan in back pulling air in (up to 32.11 CFM .. variable from mobo)
- 120mm fan on the side pushing air out (68.54 CFM all times)
- 80mm fan in the PSU pushing air out.
I do not know the PSUs CFM .. but is this how you would set them up?
I am looking into 92mm fans for the front & back.
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Asus V2-M3M8200 Barebones OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU AMD Phenom X3 8650 Motherboard V2-M3M8200 (basically a M3N78-VM) Memory 4x1024mb Kingston HyperX DDR2-1066 KHX8500D2/1G Graphics Card Asus GTS 450 OC Sound Card Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium PCIe Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24" LCD VH242H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Dell USB mini Multimedia Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU Antec Earthwatts EA-430D Case Asus V2-M3M8200 Cooling 120mm side fan & 80mm front & 92mm rear fan Hard Drives WDC WD5000AAKS
WDC WD5002ABYS
Seagate ST325062 USB-to-IDE
Fujitsu 160GB Pocket USB HDD Internet Speed Comcast Xfinity Other Info Logitech Webcam Pro 9000
Accurian 40-1462 Speakers
little Dot MKII Headphone Amp |
04-15-2011
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#2 | | |
I would exhaust case air out the back with the rear 80mm. so pull in air from front and side and exhaust air from rear and PSU fan. Then I would consider a good after market air cooler for my CPU and clean the thermal paste and re-apply with premium compound and a great cooler that will fit you're case and ram configuration. Consider a Thermaltake or Noctua CPU cooler and then consider increasing air flow with an addition front mount fan if possible? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number A blend of brains, brawn and dumb luck ! OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 CPU AMD 965 Phenom II X4 3.4 BE, OC'd stable at 4.1 Motherboard MSI 890FXA-GD70 Memory 16 gb G. Skill Z Series 2133 DDR3 9-10-9-28 @ 1866 Graphics Card (2) Crossfired MSI R5770 Hawk's OC'd Sound Card On board HD audio with lossless 24 bit/192 sample rate Monitor(s) Displays (2) LG LED 23" 1920 x 1080 2ms Monitors via hdmi/d-port Screen Resolution 1680 X 1050 p Keyboard (2) Logitech Illuminated Keyboards (1) usb (1) wireless K800 Mouse Logitech G9x & T-BC21 - nano nx for the laptop PSU Ultra X4 modular 1050 watt 80% silver rating & APC 1200 RS Case Thermaltake Element V Black Edition Cooling 15 case fans w/speed control,Corsair H100 in P/P, gpu fans Hard Drives (2) 128 gb Crucial m4 SSD drive sata III
(2) 1 tb Hitachi deskmates/sata
(1) 1 tb WD green/sata
(2) 2 tb WD My Book/esata
(1) 500 gb Seagate Freeagent/esata
(2) 250 gb Seagate Freeagent go's/usb
(1) 80 gb Seagate Barracuda/sata
(1) 64 gb Crucial C300 Internet Speed Some where between the worst and bearable Other Info 3 Noctua fans + 4 Noctua in p/p on H100 cooler
Ultra 2.5 dual hot swap drive bays for SSD's
(2) Lite-on dvd/cd optical 22X
Ultra MD3 media reader, IO ports & fan controller
HP Officejet Pro L7680 all-n-one
HP 4 laserjet (the beast)
Hot swappable 3.5" hard drive bay
Belkin Play N600 HD router
Asus USB 3 & sata 6 PCIe card
Vantec IDE to sata adptr./Ultra sata adptr
HP Probook i3 laptop |
04-15-2011
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#3 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 |
I think I tried that configuration before .. for some reason it made the CPU alil bit hotter.
I am thinking of getting this cooler for my current CPU (Phenom X3 8650) .. and possible upgrade of Phenom II X4 840 or a Athlon II X4 645 Newegg.com - ZALMAN 9500A-LED 92mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Asus V2-M3M8200 Barebones OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU AMD Phenom X3 8650 Motherboard V2-M3M8200 (basically a M3N78-VM) Memory 4x1024mb Kingston HyperX DDR2-1066 KHX8500D2/1G Graphics Card Asus GTS 450 OC Sound Card Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium PCIe Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24" LCD VH242H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Dell USB mini Multimedia Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU Antec Earthwatts EA-430D Case Asus V2-M3M8200 Cooling 120mm side fan & 80mm front & 92mm rear fan Hard Drives WDC WD5000AAKS
WDC WD5002ABYS
Seagate ST325062 USB-to-IDE
Fujitsu 160GB Pocket USB HDD Internet Speed Comcast Xfinity Other Info Logitech Webcam Pro 9000
Accurian 40-1462 Speakers
little Dot MKII Headphone Amp |
04-15-2011
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#4 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by Joshatdot I think I tried that configuration before .. for some reason it made the CPU alil bit hotter.
I am thinking of getting this cooler for my current CPU (Phenom X3 8650) .. and possible upgrade of Phenom II X4 840 or a Athlon II X4 645 Newegg.com - ZALMAN 9500A-LED 92mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler
Well you don't want to be pushing air in the front and the back usually. It probably was hotter because your airflow wasn't optimized. Don't count your PSU in the equation - you have 120mm side out and 2 80mm in.
But I don't have a clear picture of where your current CPU cooler is blowing and what it's CFM is. I assume it is blowing air down onto the CPU heat-sink and that the front & back fans are supplying intake and the side exhausting. your current configuration should probably handle that OK, but it is probably not optimal.
BTW, I had that Zalman CPU cooler for my Intel chip. I did not like it at all, especially for the price. It didn't fit well, did not have CPU controlled fan, it didn't cool very well, and was VERY load at full speed. It did not last in my case very long and is in the closet now. I am using a Coolermaster Hyper 212+ now and am very happy (it costs less too). | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built (GeneO industries)/Model 2 OS Windows 7 64 bit SP1 CPU i5 2500k @ 4.5 GHz, 1.256V 120 GFlop (with AVX) Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB (4GBx4) 1600MHz G.skill Ripjaws X 8-8-8-24 Graphics Card Asus Nvidia ENGTS450, 1GB 4030 MHz DDR5 clock, 915 Mhz GPU Sound Card Onboard Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays NEC Spectraview 2490WUXi-SV Screen Resolution 1920 x 1200 Keyboard HP Wireless Mouse HP wireless PSU Antec TruePower New 650W Case Fractal Design "Define R3" Cooling CM Hyper 212+ push/pull, 5 120mm, 1 140mm case fans Hard Drives Crucial 128GB M4 (system), 2x WD Caviar 1TB Black internal (data), 1x Seagate 750G Barracuda Internal (backups), 1x WD Blue 6Gb/s 320GB Internal, 1x Corsair F40 SSD for cache, 1x 2TB eSata WD20EARS Green, 2x 500GB Seagate external USB, 1x 350GB exte Internet Speed 25.7 Mb/s down, 4.5 Mb/s up Other Info USB 3.0 x4 , SATA III x4, eSATA x3, SATA II x4, USB 2.0 x8. 2 Samsung DVD R/W drives.
WEI: CPU 7.7, Memory 7.9, Graphics 7.4, Disk 7.9 |
04-16-2011
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#5 | | |
Your current fan configuration is giving you Negative air flow since you have more air being exhausted. For best performance and less dust you are better served with Positive air flow.
That cooler is a good looker but not such a great performer. I have reviewed a good number of the big air coolers and for your system I would highly recommend the Cooler Master Hyper212+ which can be found on line for as little as 25.00. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number My Build OS win7 Ult 64 CPU i7 3930K & 3960X Motherboard ASUS P9X79 Deluxe Memory 16GB G-Skill 2133MHz Graphics Card Sapphire HD 7970 Sound Card On-board Monitor(s) Displays ASUS 27 inch Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Mionix Mouse Mionix PSU Corsair AX1200 Case NZXT 810 Cooling Custom Loop, Swiftech HDBlock Hard Drives Crucial M4 256GB, 1.5TB WD Black for Data/Images Internet Speed Cable |
04-16-2011
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#6 | | |
To me it sounds like time for a new case. Really 80mm's just don't cut the mustard as they say. Great cases aren't all that expensive and with 120/140mm fans and normally a couple of top mounted openings your options for cooling increase exponentially buy having sealed water cooling options like a H50 or H70 or Cool-it coolers. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number A blend of brains, brawn and dumb luck ! OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 CPU AMD 965 Phenom II X4 3.4 BE, OC'd stable at 4.1 Motherboard MSI 890FXA-GD70 Memory 16 gb G. Skill Z Series 2133 DDR3 9-10-9-28 @ 1866 Graphics Card (2) Crossfired MSI R5770 Hawk's OC'd Sound Card On board HD audio with lossless 24 bit/192 sample rate Monitor(s) Displays (2) LG LED 23" 1920 x 1080 2ms Monitors via hdmi/d-port Screen Resolution 1680 X 1050 p Keyboard (2) Logitech Illuminated Keyboards (1) usb (1) wireless K800 Mouse Logitech G9x & T-BC21 - nano nx for the laptop PSU Ultra X4 modular 1050 watt 80% silver rating & APC 1200 RS Case Thermaltake Element V Black Edition Cooling 15 case fans w/speed control,Corsair H100 in P/P, gpu fans Hard Drives (2) 128 gb Crucial m4 SSD drive sata III
(2) 1 tb Hitachi deskmates/sata
(1) 1 tb WD green/sata
(2) 2 tb WD My Book/esata
(1) 500 gb Seagate Freeagent/esata
(2) 250 gb Seagate Freeagent go's/usb
(1) 80 gb Seagate Barracuda/sata
(1) 64 gb Crucial C300 Internet Speed Some where between the worst and bearable Other Info 3 Noctua fans + 4 Noctua in p/p on H100 cooler
Ultra 2.5 dual hot swap drive bays for SSD's
(2) Lite-on dvd/cd optical 22X
Ultra MD3 media reader, IO ports & fan controller
HP Officejet Pro L7680 all-n-one
HP 4 laserjet (the beast)
Hot swappable 3.5" hard drive bay
Belkin Play N600 HD router
Asus USB 3 & sata 6 PCIe card
Vantec IDE to sata adptr./Ultra sata adptr
HP Probook i3 laptop |
04-16-2011
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#7 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 |
I'd love to get a new case, there are some Lian Li's I've love to get .. but I need to spend as little as I can right now.
Cool Master Hyper 212+ .. I'll look into it, thanks for the tip!
My current case can use 92mm in the front & back. There are some Gelid fans on newegg that move a lot of air & should be quiet too. Newegg.com - GELID Solutions FN-TX09-20 92mm Case Fan Newegg.com - GELID Solutions FN-PX09-20 92mm Case Fan
Speaking of fans .. is it best to have the mobo control them? or use molex adapters and have them at 100% all the time? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Asus V2-M3M8200 Barebones OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU AMD Phenom X3 8650 Motherboard V2-M3M8200 (basically a M3N78-VM) Memory 4x1024mb Kingston HyperX DDR2-1066 KHX8500D2/1G Graphics Card Asus GTS 450 OC Sound Card Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium PCIe Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24" LCD VH242H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Dell USB mini Multimedia Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU Antec Earthwatts EA-430D Case Asus V2-M3M8200 Cooling 120mm side fan & 80mm front & 92mm rear fan Hard Drives WDC WD5000AAKS
WDC WD5002ABYS
Seagate ST325062 USB-to-IDE
Fujitsu 160GB Pocket USB HDD Internet Speed Comcast Xfinity Other Info Logitech Webcam Pro 9000
Accurian 40-1462 Speakers
little Dot MKII Headphone Amp |
04-16-2011
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#8 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by Joshatdot I'd love to get a new case, there are some Lian Li's I've love to get .. but I need to spend as little as I can right now.
Cool Master Hyper 212+ .. I'll look into it, thanks for the tip!
My current case can use 92mm in the front & back. There are some Gelid fans on newegg that move a lot of air & should be quiet too. Newegg.com - GELID Solutions FN-TX09-20 92mm Case Fan Newegg.com - GELID Solutions FN-PX09-20 92mm Case Fan
Speaking of fans .. is it best to have the mobo control them? or use molex adapters and have them at 100% all the time?
I let the MB control mine. Much less noise under usual load. Best is PWM fans as well - if your MB has 4 pin PWM fan headers. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built (GeneO industries)/Model 2 OS Windows 7 64 bit SP1 CPU i5 2500k @ 4.5 GHz, 1.256V 120 GFlop (with AVX) Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB (4GBx4) 1600MHz G.skill Ripjaws X 8-8-8-24 Graphics Card Asus Nvidia ENGTS450, 1GB 4030 MHz DDR5 clock, 915 Mhz GPU Sound Card Onboard Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays NEC Spectraview 2490WUXi-SV Screen Resolution 1920 x 1200 Keyboard HP Wireless Mouse HP wireless PSU Antec TruePower New 650W Case Fractal Design "Define R3" Cooling CM Hyper 212+ push/pull, 5 120mm, 1 140mm case fans Hard Drives Crucial 128GB M4 (system), 2x WD Caviar 1TB Black internal (data), 1x Seagate 750G Barracuda Internal (backups), 1x WD Blue 6Gb/s 320GB Internal, 1x Corsair F40 SSD for cache, 1x 2TB eSata WD20EARS Green, 2x 500GB Seagate external USB, 1x 350GB exte Internet Speed 25.7 Mb/s down, 4.5 Mb/s up Other Info USB 3.0 x4 , SATA III x4, eSATA x3, SATA II x4, USB 2.0 x8. 2 Samsung DVD R/W drives.
WEI: CPU 7.7, Memory 7.9, Graphics 7.4, Disk 7.9 |
04-16-2011
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#9 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 |
to be honest, i would just take off the rear fan and turn it around to exhaust, the side fan needs to suck air in, and the zalman CPU fan definitely helps, stock fans and heatsinks will just overheat your CPU quickly, i have a similar zalman fan, it works a treat even with negative flow, but its advisable that you pull air in from the front and suck it out the back, with the zalman, its in the direct flow and aims for the exhaust, that way its a constant flow over your CPU and northbridge | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Q6600 @ 3Ghz Motherboard Evga NF78-CK-132-A 3-Way SLI Memory 4Gb DDR2 Corsair Dominator @ 1066Mhz 5-5-5-15 Graphics Card EVGA 560 GTX SC FTW 1GB Sound Card Realtek ALC888 HD 7.1 Audio, logitech G35 7.1 headset Monitor(s) Displays Dell S2409W 16:9, HDMi, DVI & VGA Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech generic keyboard Mouse Razor Lachesis Banshee V2 Blue, 4000DPI PSU Xigmatek 750W Quad sli quad core 80% eff Case Antec 900 Gaming Case Cooling Zalman CNPS9700-NT NVIDIA Tritium Hard Drives Samsung 7200rpm 250Gb SATA
Samsung 7200rpm 750Gb SATA
WD 7200rpm 1TB SCSI SATA Internet Speed 40Mb Sky fibre optic bb Other Info Wireless Gaming Receiver for Windows, Wireless Xbox 360 Pad, Wireless Xbox 360 Les Paul Guitar |
04-16-2011
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Run all case fans off PSU not mobo if possible and only run the CPU cooler of the mobo PWM IMHO. Also see if you have quiet n' cool in the bios and try it....it will make a lot of difference! I say save a little more for the case as if you can replace 2 or 3 fans with quality fans you are very close if not there for a new case and look for one with two front, one side, one rear installed and openings for at least one or two in the top of the case. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number A blend of brains, brawn and dumb luck ! OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 CPU AMD 965 Phenom II X4 3.4 BE, OC'd stable at 4.1 Motherboard MSI 890FXA-GD70 Memory 16 gb G. Skill Z Series 2133 DDR3 9-10-9-28 @ 1866 Graphics Card (2) Crossfired MSI R5770 Hawk's OC'd Sound Card On board HD audio with lossless 24 bit/192 sample rate Monitor(s) Displays (2) LG LED 23" 1920 x 1080 2ms Monitors via hdmi/d-port Screen Resolution 1680 X 1050 p Keyboard (2) Logitech Illuminated Keyboards (1) usb (1) wireless K800 Mouse Logitech G9x & T-BC21 - nano nx for the laptop PSU Ultra X4 modular 1050 watt 80% silver rating & APC 1200 RS Case Thermaltake Element V Black Edition Cooling 15 case fans w/speed control,Corsair H100 in P/P, gpu fans Hard Drives (2) 128 gb Crucial m4 SSD drive sata III
(2) 1 tb Hitachi deskmates/sata
(1) 1 tb WD green/sata
(2) 2 tb WD My Book/esata
(1) 500 gb Seagate Freeagent/esata
(2) 250 gb Seagate Freeagent go's/usb
(1) 80 gb Seagate Barracuda/sata
(1) 64 gb Crucial C300 Internet Speed Some where between the worst and bearable Other Info 3 Noctua fans + 4 Noctua in p/p on H100 cooler
Ultra 2.5 dual hot swap drive bays for SSD's
(2) Lite-on dvd/cd optical 22X
Ultra MD3 media reader, IO ports & fan controller
HP Officejet Pro L7680 all-n-one
HP 4 laserjet (the beast)
Hot swappable 3.5" hard drive bay
Belkin Play N600 HD router
Asus USB 3 & sata 6 PCIe card
Vantec IDE to sata adptr./Ultra sata adptr
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