| Windows 7: Thermaltake level 10 |
18 May 2011
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#1 | | 64bit Windows 7 Ultimate South Africa |
New pc case??Liquid cooling What do you guys think of the thermaltake level 10 case,the normal one,not the gt. I am thinking of getting it in the future,but it doesn't support e-atx or bigger motherboards,so it's a waiste for me in that sence,but i like the looks of it.. Any thoughts on this case,cooling,watercooling and so on.
Also was thinking of the ikonik ra x10 liquid cooled case.But I am not so shore about the aliminium radiator and corrosion and so on.(Please advice on what you know on liquid cooling,the pro's/cons ,corrosion on aliminium raidiators,maintenance,worth it and so on if you have liquid cooling in you case)
But the price difference between the level 10 and the ikonik is about the price of a nice gfx card...And I love the look of both.
Last edited by Alsisgevat; 18 May 2011 at 05:05 AM..
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18 May 2011
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#2 | | Windows 7 Professional 64 bit Australia all over |
the TT 10 case is a pain to clean wire your pc apparently and not designed for W/C at all..
The Ikonik is and from the review I just read apparently does it quite well as long as you don't want to pull xtreme O/C's.
You can get silver from the TKR to put into your res if you go with the Icon..silver helps with corrosion,use deionised water to fill your loop.Ikon have also made refill/top ups easy and thats about all the maintenance you need other then making sure your rad's don't choke with dust.
If you go with the icon I would consider cutting a hole into the motherboard tray to make mounting and dismounting the backplate (for the W/C CPU Block) easier.
It looks to be a nice case, they both are in fact but if you want to W/C and you don't want to build a custom loop then the Icon is the better case imo.
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18 May 2011
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#3 | | 64bit Windows 7 Ultimate South Africa |
Thanx simmo, I just don't wan't to deal with having to pay all that money for something that willl require allot of maintanance, Mostly the looks of the case and desighn is what is importent to me,then follows cooling and then price. So basically looking for a case with extreme beauty and intelligent design,with the option of water-cooling for people like me that never done water cooling before(simple,hassle free,long lasting) | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built OS 64bit Windows 7 Ultimate CPU Intel i7 3930k oc-4.3 ghz Motherboard Asus Rampage IV extreme Memory 32g-8x4gig Corsair Vengance DDR3 1600 Graphics Card Sli - EVGA gtx580 hydro copper 2 Sound Card Onboard Monitor(s) Displays Samsung S27" a950D 3D Screen Resolution 1920X1080P Keyboard Razer blackwidow Ultimate Mouse Razer Mamba 2012 4G PSU Corsair AX1200w Case Silverstone TJ11 B-W Cooling Water Cooled Hard Drives 1 x 120GB OCZ Vertex 3 6g/s SSD (os-drive),
1 x 120GB Corsair Force 6g/s SSD (games)
1 x 120GB Corsair Force 6g/s SSD (games2)
1 x 1TB Seagate,
1 x 1TB WD,
1 x 1TB Iomega |
18 May 2011
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9 In the Crust |

Quote: Originally Posted by Alsisgevat So basically looking for a case with extreme beauty and intelligent design,with the option of water-cooling for people like me that never done water cooling before(simple,hassle free,long lasting) If you are not willing to put in some work (a lot of work) and maintenance into a watercooling setup, you shouldn't get one. They take a lot of work (took me almost a week to get mine setup once it arrived, and months of research).
I would consider cooling over looks of the case, but luckily most of the cool cases look good and are high quality. You might take a cool at the Corsair Obsidian 800D, and other cases made for watercooling.
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18 May 2011
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#5 | | Windows 7 Professional 64 bit Australia all over |

Quote: Originally Posted by Alsisgevat Thanx simmo, I just don't wan't to deal with having to pay all that money for something that willl require allot of maintanance, Mostly the looks of the case and desighn is what is importent to me,then follows cooling and then price. So basically looking for a case with extreme beauty and intelligent design,with the option of water-cooling for people like me that never done water cooling before(simple,hassle free,long lasting) Watercooling loops don't take a lot of maintenance period...you need to check your rads for dust build up in the fins once every six of months..if your in a hi dust area every couple of months or w/e you notice your temps increasing...Real Temp does a good job of that.
Check your water lines occasionally for leaks and use compression fittings where ever you can.
other than that its no big deal...definetly cools better the air so its imo miles ahead of any air cooling currently on the market. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number home built OS Windows 7 Professional 64 bit CPU 930 i7 quad O/C 4ghz Motherboard Asus P6X58D premium Memory G Skill 3x2gb O/C to 1603mhz 1T timing Graphics Card EVGA 570 Sound Card creative titanium Monitor(s) Displays samsung s23a950d..120hz 3D Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Razor arcosa Mouse Razer Diamondback PSU Antec Quattro 1000 watt Case Xigmatek Elysium Cooling Custom Loop..Kryos block.360rad..BP comp fittings etc Hard Drives Western Digital 3X150 Velocoraptors in Raid 5 Internet Speed Wireless so w/e I get at the time |
18 May 2011
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#6 | | |
Do you massively overclock? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
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18 May 2011
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9 In the Crust |

Quote: Originally Posted by simmo 
Quote: Originally Posted by Alsisgevat Thanx simmo, I just don't wan't to deal with having to pay all that money for something that willl require allot of maintanance, Mostly the looks of the case and desighn is what is importent to me,then follows cooling and then price. So basically looking for a case with extreme beauty and intelligent design,with the option of water-cooling for people like me that never done water cooling before(simple,hassle free,long lasting) Watercooling loops don't take a lot of maintenance period...you need to check your rads for dust build up in the fins once every six of months..if your in a hi dust area every couple of months or w/e you notice your temps increasing...Real Temp does a good job of that.
Check your water lines occasionally for leaks and use compression fittings where ever you can.
other than that its no big deal...definetly cools better the air so its imo miles ahead of any air cooling currently on the market. Still requires more work than air cooling though.
~Lordbob | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Hera OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9 CPU Intel i5-2500k Motherboard ASUS P8P67 Pro Memory 2x 4Gb Corsair VENGEANCE DDR3-1600 Graphics Card NVidia GeForce N260GTX Twin Frozr Sound Card Realtek HD OnBoard Audio Monitor(s) Displays ASUS 24" Monitor Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Razer Tarantula Mouse Razer Lachesis PSU Cooler Master Real Power Pro 750W Case Cooler Master Haf 932 Cooling Fans Hard Drives G.SKILL Phoenix Series 60GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
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19 May 2011
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#8 | | 64bit Windows 7 Ultimate South Africa |
Ok firstly It looks like I misspoke the first time, I didn't mean cleaning dust or removing bubbles, I personally take my case apart every two months and clean all the fans and remove the dust and so on,I was talking about maintenance regarding the corrosion problem everyone talks about,copper vs aliminium,how long the radiators and cpu blocks will last before you replace them with new ones if ever.,and how long the liquid can stay in the bottle it comes in(If I buy the case with it installed,will the liquid be fine they supply,or will it have lost it "cool" haha) I want water cooling because I need less fans,witch i think would mean less dust.
But I LOVE the level 10 case,with or without water cooling, I just like to know if there is anyway I can MAKE a e-atx board fit in a atx only case. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built OS 64bit Windows 7 Ultimate CPU Intel i7 3930k oc-4.3 ghz Motherboard Asus Rampage IV extreme Memory 32g-8x4gig Corsair Vengance DDR3 1600 Graphics Card Sli - EVGA gtx580 hydro copper 2 Sound Card Onboard Monitor(s) Displays Samsung S27" a950D 3D Screen Resolution 1920X1080P Keyboard Razer blackwidow Ultimate Mouse Razer Mamba 2012 4G PSU Corsair AX1200w Case Silverstone TJ11 B-W Cooling Water Cooled Hard Drives 1 x 120GB OCZ Vertex 3 6g/s SSD (os-drive),
1 x 120GB Corsair Force 6g/s SSD (games)
1 x 120GB Corsair Force 6g/s SSD (games2)
1 x 1TB Seagate,
1 x 1TB WD,
1 x 1TB Iomega |
19 May 2011
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#9 | | 64bit Windows 7 Ultimate South Africa |

Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 Do you massively overclock?
Only a little bit on graphics cards(don't like my gfx fans to run so high all the time,so I figured liquid cool the mofo) And cpu-well I have no idea how to,and the easy level up my motherboard supports for overclocking a cpu,does not work for my cpu,just gives a error on restart. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built OS 64bit Windows 7 Ultimate CPU Intel i7 3930k oc-4.3 ghz Motherboard Asus Rampage IV extreme Memory 32g-8x4gig Corsair Vengance DDR3 1600 Graphics Card Sli - EVGA gtx580 hydro copper 2 Sound Card Onboard Monitor(s) Displays Samsung S27" a950D 3D Screen Resolution 1920X1080P Keyboard Razer blackwidow Ultimate Mouse Razer Mamba 2012 4G PSU Corsair AX1200w Case Silverstone TJ11 B-W Cooling Water Cooled Hard Drives 1 x 120GB OCZ Vertex 3 6g/s SSD (os-drive),
1 x 120GB Corsair Force 6g/s SSD (games)
1 x 120GB Corsair Force 6g/s SSD (games2)
1 x 1TB Seagate,
1 x 1TB WD,
1 x 1TB Iomega |
22 May 2011
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#10 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Southern California |
Alsisgevat,
Thermaltake says this design is ATX so I don't believe you have any chance of squeezing in an extended ATX board. I recently found this case on sale and have considered before but in the end reading the reviews turned me away. Still I like the design and think with a ton of smart consideration you could wire this clean. I would get the case first then plan on measuring all the lengths with string so you can get an idea for ordering the proper length sata cable and a molex pin tool so you can alter the power cables back at the PSU to the just right length. Tons of work but when you're done you will have one bad ass looking case inside and out. Also with the low pro H60 cooler from Corsair you should be able to sealed water cool this bad boy as well. I say go for it but plan on lots of time and effort getting it just so! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number A blend of brains, brawn and dumb luck, ask me about rig #2 ! OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 CPU i7 3770k OC'd 4.6 @ 1.17v, still love my FX 8120 Motherboard MSI P67A-GD80 b3 Memory 16 gb Crucial Ballistix Tracer DDR3 9-9-9-27 @ 2000 Graphics Card XFX Radeon 7870 Sound Card On board HD audio with lossless 24 bit/192 sample rate Monitor(s) Displays (2) LG LED 23" 1920 x 1080 2ms Monitors via mini d-port Screen Resolution 1680 X 1050 p Keyboard (2) Logitech Illuminated Keyboards (1) usb (1) wireless K800 Mouse Logitech G9x & T-BC21 - nano nx for the laptop PSU Ultra X4 modular 1050 watt 80% silver rating & APC 1200 RS Case CoolerMaster Storm Styker Cooling 6 case fans 140mm & 120mm, Thermaltake h2o extreme Hard Drives Samsung 256 gb 830 SSD sata III
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