Windows 7 - Thermaltake level 10

Alsisgevat · 05-18-2011

What do you guys think of the thermaltake level 10 case,the normal one,not the gt. I am thinking of getting it in the future,but it doesn't support e-atx or bigger motherboards,so it's a waiste for me in that sence,but i like the looks of it.. Any thoughts on this case,cooling,watercooling and so on.

Also was thinking of the ikonik ra x10 liquid cooled case.But I am not so shore about the aliminium radiator and corrosion and so on.(Please advice on what you know on liquid cooling,the pro's/cons ,corrosion on aliminium raidiators,maintenance,worth it and so on if you have liquid cooling in you case)

But the price difference between the level 10 and the ikonik is about the price of a nice gfx card...And I love the look of both.

simmo · 05-18-2011

the TT 10 case is a pain to clean wire your pc apparently and not designed for W/C at all..
The Ikonik is and from the review I just read apparently does it quite well as long as you don't want to pull xtreme O/C's.
You can get silver from the TKR to put into your res if you go with the Icon..silver helps with corrosion,use deionised water to fill your loop.Ikon have also made refill/top ups easy and thats about all the maintenance you need other then making sure your rad's don't choke with dust.
If you go with the icon I would consider cutting a hole into the motherboard tray to make mounting and dismounting the backplate (for the W/C CPU Block) easier.
It looks to be a nice case, they both are in fact but if you want to W/C and you don't want to build a custom loop then the Icon is the better case imo.
cheers

Alsisgevat · 05-18-2011

Thanx simmo, I just don't wan't to deal with having to pay all that money for something that willl require allot of maintanance, Mostly the looks of the case and desighn is what is importent to me,then follows cooling and then price. So basically looking for a case with extreme beauty and intelligent design,with the option of water-cooling for people like me that never done water cooling before(simple,hassle free,long lasting)

Lordbob75 · 05-18-2011

Quote: Originally Posted by Alsisgevat

So basically looking for a case with extreme beauty and intelligent design,with the option of water-cooling for people like me that never done water cooling before(simple,hassle free,long lasting)

If you are not willing to put in some work (a lot of work) and maintenance into a watercooling setup, you shouldn't get one. They take a lot of work (took me almost a week to get mine setup once it arrived, and months of research).

I would consider cooling over looks of the case, but luckily most of the cool cases look good and are high quality. You might take a cool at the Corsair Obsidian 800D, and other cases made for watercooling.

~Lordbob

simmo · 05-18-2011

Quote: Originally Posted by Alsisgevat

Thanx simmo, I just don't wan't to deal with having to pay all that money for something that willl require allot of maintanance, Mostly the looks of the case and desighn is what is importent to me,then follows cooling and then price. So basically looking for a case with extreme beauty and intelligent design,with the option of water-cooling for people like me that never done water cooling before(simple,hassle free,long lasting)

Watercooling loops don't take a lot of maintenance period...you need to check your rads for dust build up in the fins once every six of months..if your in a hi dust area every couple of months or w/e you notice your temps increasing...Real Temp does a good job of that.
Check your water lines occasionally for leaks and use compression fittings where ever you can.
other than that its no big deal...definetly cools better the air so its imo miles ahead of any air cooling currently on the market.

pparks1 · 05-18-2011

Do you massively overclock?

Lordbob75 · 05-18-2011

Quote: Originally Posted by simmo

Quote: Originally Posted by Alsisgevat

Thanx simmo, I just don't wan't to deal with having to pay all that money for something that willl require allot of maintanance, Mostly the looks of the case and desighn is what is importent to me,then follows cooling and then price. So basically looking for a case with extreme beauty and intelligent design,with the option of water-cooling for people like me that never done water cooling before(simple,hassle free,long lasting)

Watercooling loops don't take a lot of maintenance period...you need to check your rads for dust build up in the fins once every six of months..if your in a hi dust area every couple of months or w/e you notice your temps increasing...Real Temp does a good job of that.
Check your water lines occasionally for leaks and use compression fittings where ever you can.
other than that its no big deal...definetly cools better the air so its imo miles ahead of any air cooling currently on the market.

Still requires more work than air cooling though.

~Lordbob

Alsisgevat · 05-19-2011

Ok firstly It looks like I misspoke the first time, I didn't mean cleaning dust or removing bubbles, I personally take my case apart every two months and clean all the fans and remove the dust and so on,I was talking about maintenance regarding the corrosion problem everyone talks about,copper vs aliminium,how long the radiators and cpu blocks will last before you replace them with new ones if ever.,and how long the liquid can stay in the bottle it comes in(If I buy the case with it installed,will the liquid be fine they supply,or will it have lost it "cool" haha) I want water cooling because I need less fans,witch i think would mean less dust.

But I LOVE the level 10 case,with or without water cooling, I just like to know if there is anyway I can MAKE a e-atx board fit in a atx only case.

Alsisgevat · 05-19-2011

Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1

Do you massively overclock?

Only a little bit on graphics cards(don't like my gfx fans to run so high all the time,so I figured liquid cool the mofo) And cpu-well I have no idea how to,and the easy level up my motherboard supports for overclocking a cpu,does not work for my cpu,just gives a error on restart.

linnemeyerhere · 05-22-2011

Alsisgevat,
Thermaltake says this design is ATX so I don't believe you have any chance of squeezing in an extended ATX board. I recently found this case on sale and have considered before but in the end reading the reviews turned me away. Still I like the design and think with a ton of smart consideration you could wire this clean. I would get the case first then plan on measuring all the lengths with string so you can get an idea for ordering the proper length sata cable and a molex pin tool so you can alter the power cables back at the PSU to the just right length. Tons of work but when you're done you will have one bad ass looking case inside and out. Also with the low pro H60 cooler from Corsair you should be able to sealed water cool this bad boy as well. I say go for it but plan on lots of time and effort getting it just so!