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07-03-2011
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#1 | | W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE |
Cooling I finally got around to moving my Cooler Master Hyper TX3 to my new rig, replacing the stock fan, but I'm not impressed with the temperature difference. With the stock fan, I was running @ 36 degrees idle, and 56 degrees loaded. With the CM cooler I'm getting 34 degrees idle, and 54 degrees loaded...not much of a difference. At least not nearly as much as I got with that cooler on my old rig.
I have been wanting to experiment with some minor overclocking tweaks...primarily with the RAM, but since the max temp on this processor is only 62 degrees, I'm not comfortable with the idea. I don't even like it that close to max without overclocking.
Therefore, I'm considering something different in cooling, but am not sure what? Is there a fan type cooler that would make much of a difference over what I have? Would water cooling the CPU make that much of a difference? I would like to get the loaded temp down 20 degrees below max, if possible.
Last edited by seekermeister; 07-03-2011 at 08:24 PM..
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY OS W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE CPU Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3 Motherboard ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI Memory 2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS Graphics Card EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS Sound Card Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1 Monitor(s) Displays Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1024x768/**1980x1080 Keyboard Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse Mouse Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto PSU CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000 Case HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB Cooling 3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans Hard Drives WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black Internet Speed 3.3Mbps Other Info SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
(** = 2nd rig) |
07-03-2011
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Sometimes installing two case fans with really decent airflow (like 120mm or larger fans) will aid in getting the hotter air out. Also, replacing thermal paste can help.
Water cooling will definitely be the best solution if you want very cool temps with overclocking. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number ASUS OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU AMD Athlon 240 II @ 2.8-4.004 ghz Motherboard M4A78LT-M LE Memory SuperTalent 4gb DDR3 Graphics Card ATI Radeon 3000HD Screen Resolution 1440*900 Case Re-modded Dell Dimension 4550 Cooling Vantec 92mm Tornado x2 Other Info It looks pretty. |
07-03-2011
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You are running pretty hot. I would suggest making your wire management inside of your case better, and upgrading your case fans. See what that does for you first, then if you don't get good results, look into possibly getting a better HSF, as the Cooler Master Hyper TX3 is sorta low end. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU AMD Athlon II X4 640 3.0GHz Motherboard GA-990FXA-UD5 Memory 8.0 GB 1600MHz DDR3 Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 5770 x2 Monitor(s) Displays Acer p221w x2 Screen Resolution 1680x1050 x3 Keyboard Microsoft Sidewinder x4 Mouse Logitech Performance MX PSU OCZ Fatal1ty Modular 550w Case Antec P180 (with modded wire management) Cooling Cooler Master v8 Hard Drives OCZ Agility 3 60gb SSD
(3)Western Digital Caviar Black 7200RPM 500gb |
07-03-2011
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#4 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit |
In performance, I suspect that the Cooler Master Hyper TX3 is not going to be that much better than the stock cooler.
The Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus is probably more what you're looking for.
Two 120mm fans can be mounted. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-built OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit CPU Intel Core i7-3770 Motherboard Gigabyte Z68A-D3H-B3 Memory G.SKILL 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 F3-10666CL9D-8GBNT Graphics Card Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 6670 Sound Card Realtek ALC892 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster P2370HD, Dell 1703FPT Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech Deluxe 250 Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU SeaSonic M12II SS-500GM Case Lian Li PC-9F Cooling Zalman CNPS9900LED Hard Drives Samsung Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ Internet Speed 8 Mbps System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU AMD Athlon II X4 640 3.0GHz Motherboard GA-990FXA-UD5 Memory 8.0 GB 1600MHz DDR3 Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 5770 x2 Monitor(s) Displays Acer p221w x2 Screen Resolution 1680x1050 x3 Keyboard Microsoft Sidewinder x4 Mouse Logitech Performance MX PSU OCZ Fatal1ty Modular 550w Case Antec P180 (with modded wire management) Cooling Cooler Master v8 Hard Drives OCZ Agility 3 60gb SSD
(3)Western Digital Caviar Black 7200RPM 500gb |
07-03-2011
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#6 | | W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE |

Quote: Originally Posted by Coke Robot Sometimes installing two case fans with really decent airflow (like 120mm or larger fans) will aid in getting the hotter air out. Also, replacing thermal paste can help.
Water cooling will definitely be the best solution if you want very cool temps with overclocking. Not sure what you mean by "case" fans, because I already have 3 x 200mm, 1 x 140, 1 x 120 case fans, plus a Noctua NF-B9 92 mm fan on the CPU cooler. I could add a second one, but I'm not sure that would help very much, because that Noctua is supposed to put out 64.3 m3/hours...whatever that works out to in CFM. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY OS W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE CPU Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3 Motherboard ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI Memory 2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS Graphics Card EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS Sound Card Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1 Monitor(s) Displays Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1024x768/**1980x1080 Keyboard Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse Mouse Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto PSU CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000 Case HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB Cooling 3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans Hard Drives WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black Internet Speed 3.3Mbps Other Info SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
(** = 2nd rig) |
07-03-2011
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#7 | | W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE |

Quote: Originally Posted by Maxwell You are running pretty hot. I would suggest making your wire management inside of your case better, and upgrading your case fans. See what that does for you first, then if you don't get good results, look into possibly getting a better HSF, as the Cooler Master Hyper TX3 is sorta low end. Cable management is not an issue. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY OS W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE CPU Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3 Motherboard ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI Memory 2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS Graphics Card EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS Sound Card Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1 Monitor(s) Displays Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1024x768/**1980x1080 Keyboard Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse Mouse Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto PSU CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000 Case HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB Cooling 3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans Hard Drives WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black Internet Speed 3.3Mbps Other Info SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
(** = 2nd rig) |
07-03-2011
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#8 | | W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE |
For me to make any kind of intelligent decision, I don't need to know which is the best method of cooling, because I already have a fair idea of that, but I need to know how much of a difference in temps to expect from the alternatives? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY OS W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE CPU Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3 Motherboard ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI Memory 2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS Graphics Card EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS Sound Card Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1 Monitor(s) Displays Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1024x768/**1980x1080 Keyboard Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse Mouse Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto PSU CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000 Case HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB Cooling 3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans Hard Drives WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black Internet Speed 3.3Mbps Other Info SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
(** = 2nd rig) |
07-03-2011
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Quote: Originally Posted by seekermeister 
Quote: Originally Posted by Coke Robot Sometimes installing two case fans with really decent airflow (like 120mm or larger fans) will aid in getting the hotter air out. Also, replacing thermal paste can help.
Water cooling will definitely be the best solution if you want very cool temps with overclocking. Not sure what you mean by "case" fans, because I already have 3 x 200mm, 1 x 140, 1 x 120 case fans, plus a Noctua NF-B9 92 mm fan on the CPU cooler. I could add a second one, but I'm not sure that would help very much, because that Noctua is supposed to put out 64.3 m3/hours...whatever that works out to in CFM.
Ohh, did not see that, my bad! Yeah, it does look like either a different heatsink would help or going with water cooling. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number ASUS OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU AMD Athlon 240 II @ 2.8-4.004 ghz Motherboard M4A78LT-M LE Memory SuperTalent 4gb DDR3 Graphics Card ATI Radeon 3000HD Screen Resolution 1440*900 Case Re-modded Dell Dimension 4550 Cooling Vantec 92mm Tornado x2 Other Info It looks pretty. |
07-03-2011
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Quote: Originally Posted by seekermeister For me to make any kind of intelligent decision, I don't need to know which is the best method of cooling, because I already have a fair idea of that, but I need to know how much of a difference in temps to expect from the alternatives? I've seen once an overclocked i7 processor with water cooling that maxed around 47 degrees C under load. With air, that would be WAY higher. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number ASUS OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU AMD Athlon 240 II @ 2.8-4.004 ghz Motherboard M4A78LT-M LE Memory SuperTalent 4gb DDR3 Graphics Card ATI Radeon 3000HD Screen Resolution 1440*900 Case Re-modded Dell Dimension 4550 Cooling Vantec 92mm Tornado x2 Other Info It looks pretty. All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:17 PM. |  |