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Windows 7 - How cool is too cool? |
08-01-2011
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How cool is too cool? I have been experimenting on various homemade cooling systems and ideas. One question I have not been able to find an answer for is, what are the lower limits of cpu function in regards to temperature? 10 degrees C? sub zero degrees C?
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08-01-2011
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Not sure how cool is cool cause I'm still trying to figure out what is hip? Sorry I just have to post this.
I figure if the mad scientist cool the CPU's with liquid nitrogen while massive over clocking they can operate way cool!
Last edited by linnemeyerhere; 08-02-2011 at 06:38 AM..
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08-01-2011
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Quote: Originally Posted by Reid I have been experimenting on various homemade cooling systems and ideas. One question I have not been able to find an answer for is, what are the lower limits of cpu function in regards to temperature? 10 degrees C? sub zero degrees C? have you come up with anything yet?
don't keep us hanglng. let see your work. i always like to see some new ideas.
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08-01-2011
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#4 | | Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2 |
I can't really answer your question (sorry), but I know one of the concerns with extremely low CPU temps has to do with condensation.
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08-01-2011
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#5 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 |
I believe that CPU's will be fine at temps like -40c, probably to -100c, I've seen a test where they got to -191c. Of course, that isn't constant over long periods. I'd think you'd be looking at the silicon breaking down before the electrical components. In any case, you'd never approach those temps with any "normal" coolers. A Guy | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 CPU INTEL Core i5-750 Quad-Core 3.37GHz Motherboard ASUS P7P55D Memory KINGSTON 4GB (2 x 2GB) HyperX PC3-12800 DDR3 1600MHz CL8 Graphics Card MSI N240GT-MD1G/D5 GeForce GT 240 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster B2430H 24" , SyncMaster P2050 20" Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 , 1440 x 900 PSU ANTEC TruePower New TP-550, 80 PLUS, 550W Case ANTEC Three Hundred Illusion Cooling COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus, 3 x 120mm 1 x 140mm Case Hard Drives Intel X25M Gen2 80GB, SEAGATE 500GB Barracudaź 7200.12, SATA 3 Gb/s, 7200 RPM, 16MB cache Internet Speed 20 + Mbps |
08-01-2011
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My pc is water cooled and consistently displays 35C-45C on a Q6600 @ 2.4GHz (or 40C - 50C @ 3.0GHz overclock) with dual 9800GT video cards running SLI and a 1200 watt PWS in the same case.
I have heard of people running in the upper 20C to lower 30'sC.....but I must agree that you have to watch out for condensation if you go too cool otherwise we would all use small AC units to cool our pc's and be done with the whole cooling issue. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Systemax N2000 Gaming PC OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Q6600 @2.4ghz (G0 stepping) Motherboard XFX nforce 680i LT Memory 8 gb OCZ vista essential sli PC-6400 Graphics Card Dual 9800gt in SLI mode Sound Card Integrated 8.1 High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dual Sceptre x246w 24 inch monitors Screen Resolution 1920 x 1200 each monitor Keyboard MS Intelitype 6000 v2.0 Mouse MS Intelipoint 6000 PSU Cooler Master Real Power Pro 1250W Case N2000 server tower Cooling Thermaltake Bigwater 760 is Hard Drives 500 GB SATA II / 7500 rpm Internet Speed Wi-power 1.5GB up / 512k down Other Info Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Windows 7 Pro x64, Windows Home Premium X86, Windows XP pro, Windows Home Server x86, Ubuntu 10.4 x86 and x64, Ubuntu server 10.4, SQL Server 2005, MySQL 5.0 |
08-02-2011
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#7 | | MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit |
check the specs on the chip involved. I've been away from such things for too long, otherwise, I could instantly give you an answer. must be old-timer's diseaase.
I have an acquaintance who puts his laptop into the refrigerator to keep the temps down while he is rendering. The lower temps give him about 5 times better output in terms of frames/sec since the cpu doesn't get throttled this way.
Your computer will have some components which will have a higher lower limit. Unless you are really going to extremes, the specs for components is normally on the safe side.
As someone else mentioned, your bigger concern will be condensation. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba Satellite L305D laptop OS MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit CPU AMD Athlon X2 Dual-Core QL-64, 2100 Mhz, 2 Cores Motherboard TOSHIBA Portable PC (Socket M2/S1G1) Memory 4.0GB (2x2GB) DDR2 @ 333MHz 5-5-5-15 Graphics Card ATI Radeon 3100 Graphics (Toshiba) Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Generic PnP Monitor @ 1280x800 Screen Resolution 1280 x 800 Keyboard standard PS/2 Keyboard Mouse HP Wireless Optical Mobile Mouse Model FHA-3410 Hard Drives 125.03GB Corsair CSSD-V128GB2 ATA Device (IDE)
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08-02-2011
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Yes condensation is a concern, but I have found that if you double tube (ie using a refrigerant pipe with freon surrounded by a regular plastic tube), you can keep the PIPE condensation contained and drained away from your system. I havent actually hooked this up to a computer yet but have been running this system on a trial basis to see what kind of issues emerge. This is what actually brought my initial question to light because it gets extremely cold concentrated on the "heatsink" which would be butted up against my cpu.
On another note, what is keeping someone from just housing their reservoir and radiator in a fridge or freezer at around 0 degrees C? | My System Specs | | OS win 7 64bit pro CPU amd 1100 x6 black Motherboard asus m4a89td pro / usb3 Memory 8gb corsair 1600 Graphics Card gtx 460 1gb 256bit Sound Card onboard (realtek)... Monitor(s) Displays acer 24" PSU cosair 750 Case antec 902 v3 Cooling secret Hard Drives seagate 1.5tb 64mb cache 6gb/sec sataIII Internet Speed 50.0 Insight cable System Manufacturer/Model Number ASUS G60-RBBX05 OS Win7 Home Premium 64x CPU Intel Core 2 Duo P7450 / 2.13 GHz (2.29 with Extreme Turbo) Memory 4 GB PC-6400 Hyundai (2X2) at 800Mhz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260M 1GB DDR3 VRAM Monitor(s) Displays 16" LED Backlit Screen Resolution 1366 x 768 on laptop 1600x1050 max res on 22" external mon Keyboard Chicklet type back-lit (white light) keyboard Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse 3200dpi and 1000 reports per minute PSU 6-cell Lithium ion { lasts 1.5 hours } Case ASUS G60 Laptop Hard Drives 320 GB - Serial ATA-150 - 7200 rpm Internet Speed Comcast 8.60mb/s up - 3.11mb/s down Other Info General mid-budget gaming Comp. Low batterylife - High FrameRates - Looking into upgrading CPU and adding SSD |
08-02-2011
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LOL, that is absolutely awesome Thorsen! Thank you. Just do not ever shut it off long enough to thaw out eh? | My System Specs | | OS win 7 64bit pro CPU amd 1100 x6 black Motherboard asus m4a89td pro / usb3 Memory 8gb corsair 1600 Graphics Card gtx 460 1gb 256bit Sound Card onboard (realtek)... Monitor(s) Displays acer 24" PSU cosair 750 Case antec 902 v3 Cooling secret Hard Drives seagate 1.5tb 64mb cache 6gb/sec sataIII Internet Speed 50.0 Insight cable All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:18 PM. |  |