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Windows 7 - Desktop Tower Ideas |
09-28-2011
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#1 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit |
Desktop Tower Ideas Hello all,
A more relaxed post for this section I think.
I am currently at uni studying Computer Aided Mechanical Engineering, and have a project to do over the next semester involving design, construction and selling of a product that we have to do ourselves.
So I got my gray matter a-thinking, and have thought of trying to make a desktop tower that cuts down on cables as much as possible. Any time I have taken repaired or built desktops that has been quite an annoying part of it, I find they get in the way a lot!
Just to clarify, I don't mean wireless, I mean the power and SATA cables would run along the wall of the tower, possibly integrated into it somehow, as hidden as possible.
Now I realise that the back fan would need a cable that cannot be removed, as well as some video cards, but I am really thinking of mainstream consumers, rather than the monsters you guys have probably all built.
I was also thinking of the easiest method of inserting an removing drives, instead of them being screwed in.
Has all of this been done before? Could it work? Am I a crazy person?
Any ideas welcome, as well as constructive criticism.
Thanks,
Stubbyhs
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Acer 5742G OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit CPU Intel Core i3-380M Motherboard Intel (Laptop) Memory 4 GB DDR3 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GT 520M Screen Resolution 1366 x 768 Hard Drives Internal 640GB
External 1TB Internet Speed 3.5 Mb/s at home / 30Mb/s at uni |
09-28-2011
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit |
Does noone have anything to contribute? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Acer 5742G OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit CPU Intel Core i3-380M Motherboard Intel (Laptop) Memory 4 GB DDR3 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GT 520M Screen Resolution 1366 x 768 Hard Drives Internal 640GB
External 1TB Internet Speed 3.5 Mb/s at home / 30Mb/s at uni |
09-28-2011
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#3 | | Windows 7x32 Home Premium & XP SP3 x86 |
Actually, NO. I was waiting to read what others think about this idea. I agree that the cables create many of the problems encountered during routine access into any desktop computer. Not having to deal with them, beyond connecting and disconnecting them, would be great. If it has been done, it certainly is not wide spread.
As imprortant to your design success, however, may be cooling. You need to make certain that you have the proper air flow. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Polywell OS Windows 7x32 Home Premium & XP SP3 x86 CPU Athlon 64FX Motherboard ASUS M2N32SLI Delux Memory Corsair CM2X1024-8500C5 Graphics Card GeForce 7950X2 (Dual) Monitor(s) Displays ViewSonic A90f+ (Two) Screen Resolution 1280x1024 Keyboard Logitech Mouse Logitech PSU TurboColl 1KW Case Polywell Cooling Cool'n'Quiet (Questionable Operation) Hard Drives WD1500ADFD-00NLR1 (Originally Raid5)
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09-28-2011
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit |
Thanks a lot!
I will make sure the colling is sufficient, I will try and design it best I can and post it on the board
Good to hear some contribution! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Acer 5742G OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit CPU Intel Core i3-380M Motherboard Intel (Laptop) Memory 4 GB DDR3 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GT 520M Screen Resolution 1366 x 768 Hard Drives Internal 640GB
External 1TB Internet Speed 3.5 Mb/s at home / 30Mb/s at uni |
09-28-2011
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I'm wondering what is the problem you're trying to solve?
If cabling is annoying then ...
- Would better cabling cut the cost of assembly?
- Would better cabling cut the cost of maintenance?
If the answer to either of these is YES, then the industry would already have worked on these problems.
Have they? | My System Specs | | |
09-28-2011
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 |
FWIW: My take on the idea of having the cabling built into the case would make it easy to install and replace components.
But, My guess is that it would be too expensive and limit the flexibility of the thousands of different tower configurations that people want. The boxes that Dell and others build are built as cheaply as possible to maximize their profits. Cables in many cases are cheaper than building the connections into the motherboard.
Flexibilty is the key to selling lots of desktop cases. With lots of different motherboard manufacturers looking for your dollar (or yen, or euro) competition is keen..
Rich | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba Laptop(s) A505-S6979 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core 2 Dual P8700 Memory 4 Gigs Graphics Card ATI 4650 w1Gig Hard Drives 64Gig SSD for C
256Gig SSD for D Internet Speed 25/5 fios Other Info I have dos 6.22, wfwg 3.11, win98, 2000 and xp VHD's available for testing. MS's Virtual PC works great. |
09-29-2011
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#7 | | |
If cost was no object to some extent how cool would it be if all or most the headers for power and communications where located/standardized to plug into the case. So all the headers/connectors would be facing towards the standoffs and then all the internal cables cleanly preinstalled behind the mobo. Oh I can dream but as mentioned the idea is doable but costly. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number A blend of brains, brawn and dumb luck ! OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 CPU AMD 965 Phenom II X4 3.4 BE, OC'd stable at 4.1 Motherboard MSI 890FXA-GD70 Memory 16 gb G. Skill Z Series 2133 DDR3 9-10-9-28 @ 1866 Graphics Card (2) Crossfired MSI R5770 Hawk's OC'd Sound Card On board HD audio with lossless 24 bit/192 sample rate Monitor(s) Displays (2) LG LED 23" 1920 x 1080 2ms Monitors via hdmi/d-port Screen Resolution 1680 X 1050 p Keyboard (2) Logitech Illuminated Keyboards (1) usb (1) wireless K800 Mouse Logitech G9x & T-BC21 - nano nx for the laptop PSU Ultra X4 modular 1050 watt 80% silver rating & APC 1200 RS Case Thermaltake Element V Black Edition Cooling 15 case fans w/speed control,Corsair H100 in P/P, gpu fans Hard Drives (2) 128 gb Crucial m4 SSD drive sata III
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HP Probook i3 laptop |
09-29-2011
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9 |
Having the cables built into the case would be a major pain.
The better idea would be to just have cable routing and space behind the motherboard for cabling to go. That has already been implemented in nicer cases, though it isn't common in cheap ones (my case has almost an inch between the back of the motherboard plate and the side panel for cables.
Another interesting idea would be to build cables into the case and have ports to connect to. So basically you would put a sata cable into the wall/floor of the case running from next to the motherboard to next to the harddrive, and use 2 short cables to connect from the ports to the motherboard and harddrive. I feel like that would be way more trouble than it was worth though.
~Lordbob | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Hera OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9 CPU Intel i5-2500k Motherboard ASUS P8P67 Pro Memory 2x 4Gb Corsair VENGEANCE DDR3-1600 Graphics Card NVidia GeForce N260GTX Twin Frozr Sound Card Realtek HD OnBoard Audio Monitor(s) Displays ASUS 24" Monitor Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Razer Tarantula Mouse Razer Lachesis PSU Cooler Master Real Power Pro 750W Case Cooler Master Haf 932 Cooling Fans Hard Drives G.SKILL Phoenix Series 60GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
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10-04-2011
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sounds like it could be interestingly crazy, but i sense this will be more troubles then its worth honestly... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Windows 7 64bit Ultimate CPU AMD Phenom II X4 955 Motherboard GA-MA785GT-UD3H Memory 8192 Mo, Type: DDR3, @669.7MHz Graphics Card Radeon HD 5770 (RV840,1024 MB) (two cards) Sound Card On board Monitor(s) Displays Monitor: 22'' Samsung, 2x 15" Touch screen Screen Resolution 1600x1900 (Samsung) Keyboard Logitech G15 keyboard (18 gamer keys with LCD screen) Mouse Microsoft optical track ball PSU Antec 1000 Watt Case HAF 922 Cooling Air (3 200mm fans, 1 120mm) Hard Drives WDC WD1600AAJS-22PSA0 ATA Device (SATA)
ST3500630AS ATA Device (SATA)
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Monitor: 42'' LG |
10-04-2011
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#10 | | windows 7 home premium 64/SP1 |
Well I think Corsair has already taken care of cable routing. Check out the 600T and the 800D by Corsair. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home made OS windows 7 home premium 64/SP1 CPU Intel i7-960-3.2 @ 4.25 Motherboard ASUS P6X58D-E Memory KINGSTON KHX2000C9, Hyper X,12 GIGS with Corsair cooler Graphics Card MSI/Nvidia/460GTX-Cyclone 1GD5/OC Monitor(s) Displays DYNEX 40 IN. Screen Resolution 1920-1080 Keyboard M/S 3000 v 2.0 wireless Mouse M/S 5000 wireless PSU Corsair AX-850 Plus Gold Case Corsair 600T (Black) + side panel with 2 140 mm Noctua fans Cooling Corsair H50/2 Noctua NF-P12 (120 mm) Push/Pull Hard Drives INTEL SSD 120GB-SER 510
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