| Windows 7: Help overclocking my 6970 |
28 Jan 2012
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#11 | | Windows 7 Home premium 64bit |
CCC should be built in and i trust it because it's made by AMD who else knows there amd cards better then amd does. Ye kind of agree with the others you won't notice any performance gains since it's so high end kind of pointless to OC unless your doing it for benchmarks and bragging rights i guess. I would just leave it but it's your card so do w/e you want to it | My System Specs |
| Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number me OS Windows 7 Home premium 64bit CPU AMD Phenom II X4 925 (Deneb) OC 3.4GHz Motherboard M5A78L-MLX Plus Memory 8192MB RAM DDR3 1600 Graphics Card XFX HD 6870 1GB (Connected via HDMI) Monitor(s) Displays Polaroid TLAC-02255 22" Digital HD LED TV and 17"LED Monitor Screen Resolution 1920x1080 60Hz / 1280x1024 60Hz Keyboard Microsoft USB Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 (IntelliType Pro) Mouse Logitech Optical Gaming Mouse G400 PSU CORSAIR CX600 600w Case AZZA Orion 202 EVO with 3fans and a corsair af fan Cooling cooler master hyper TX3 cpu cooler Hard Drives 500gb hdd 7200rpm Western Digital Internet Speed 5.22Mbps download 0.65Mbps upload Antivirus Comodo Internet Security Browser IE 10 |
28 Jan 2012
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#12 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by Thornton 
Quote: Originally Posted by peaceful well, there's no actually absolute figures in getting away in Ocing, but an absolute safe should come on priority unless you lose a lifespam of stuff as it should be. In general speaking ocing, one amongst, is a matter of voltage which then affects directly to heat. So oc gpu is just like we do for CPU, only the resistance towards heat make them different.
From what i've read, the gpu could stand heat more than that of cpu. 60C gpu temp is catagorized warm while cpu is a bit hot, below 85C of gpu is still normal / safe zone, >85C to 100C hot and >100C very hot .
First to do is up the clock by 25 mhz and keep the voltage default, stress it with i,e furmark in a certain period. if ok, then up more 2nd 25 mhz and so on till you find it unstable. and if you want to push more clock, up the voltage per one increament till you find it stable. Always remember the temp which you can read while gpu's being stressed.
Have a good OC thank you very much. thanks to trixx, whether or not its the best program to use, i dont know, but they provide me with them and fan controll, when i play bf3 i never let it go above 70 degrees and thats with my case fans down and gpu fan t 43%. i know for most thats still a bit cold, but i like consistancy to tell me if somthing is wrong.
Seeing as how i am new to this, what are the ratios? of core/memory/Voltage.
thats another thing, i didnt really see you post anything about the memory clock from what i see, just the core clock. if you could help ansewer my questions as best you can, id greatly appreciate it hai... Thorton may i ask you this :
what do u mean by "my CCC does not have overdrive built in"?
is it that "overdrive built in" which unlocks/bypasses CCC limit? if so, then you have to do some bios mod ( as i did with my hd5850 TF II - ccc overdrive limits to 775 core and 1125 mem - default 725/1000 ).
as with memory oc, do it just you oc the corelock. AFAIK there's no absolute ratios of core/memory and voltage. Besides memory increase has no significant affects to fps bump as that of core. | My System Specs | | OS Win7 Ult x64 SP1 CPU i7 920 / i5 2500K Motherboard eVGA Classified / As Rock Z68 X3 G3 Memory Corsair 6 gb Triple Channel / Corsair 8 GB Dual Channel Graphics Card Nvidia DA GTX 295 / MSI HD 5850 TF II Sound Card X-Fi Xtreme Fatality Gamer Monitor(s) Displays 2 x 22 inch Samsung / LG Screen Resolution 1680 * 1050 Keyboard Razer Lycosa Mirror Mouse Razer DA Blue PSU Silverstone 1500 Watt / Antec NeoPower 650 Watt Case Lian Li / CM Scout Cooling WC / Corsair Hydro H60 Other Info Mousepad:
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28 Jan 2012
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#13 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by M1GU31 Ye kind of agree with the others you won't notice any performance gains since it's so high end kind of pointless to OC unless your doing it for benchmarks and bragging rights i guess. Once again - no.
Depending on the game and overclock, it can be the difference between a smooth and solid 60FPS with no framerate dips, or a higher min framerate when it does drop.
There's no denying that some do it just for benches/e-peen but stating there are no noticeable performance gains is simply erroneous as there are some games that do benefit from a GPU overclock, 'high end card' or not. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number SmartEyeball Inc OS 8 Pro x64 CPU i7 3770K 4.6GHz Motherboard ASUS P8Z77 WS Memory 16GB G.Skill Trident X 2400mhz Graphics Card 3x Gigabyte GTX 670 OC WindForce *TRI SLI* Sound Card ALC898 / 5.1 receiver/ ATH-AD900 Headphones Monitor(s) Displays x3 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung / "40 Sony Screen Resolution 5760*1200/ 1920*1200 / 1920*1080 Keyboard Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine MX Black // Filco Ninja TKL Mouse Razer Imperator + Thermaltake Theron PSU Corsair AX1200W Case Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow Edition Cooling Noctua NH-D14 Hard Drives 2x Intel 520 240GB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0) * 2TB WD Caviar Black Antivirus MSE Browser IE, FF Other Info GT Extreme V2 Sim Racing Cockpit + 40" LCD and K/B Mouse stand ▼
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28 Jan 2012
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#14 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by peaceful 
Quote: Originally Posted by Thornton 
Quote: Originally Posted by peaceful well, there's no actually absolute figures in getting away in Ocing, but an absolute safe should come on priority unless you lose a lifespam of stuff as it should be. In general speaking ocing, one amongst, is a matter of voltage which then affects directly to heat. So oc gpu is just like we do for CPU, only the resistance towards heat make them different.
From what i've read, the gpu could stand heat more than that of cpu. 60C gpu temp is catagorized warm while cpu is a bit hot, below 85C of gpu is still normal / safe zone, >85C to 100C hot and >100C very hot .
First to do is up the clock by 25 mhz and keep the voltage default, stress it with i,e furmark in a certain period. if ok, then up more 2nd 25 mhz and so on till you find it unstable. and if you want to push more clock, up the voltage per one increament till you find it stable. Always remember the temp which you can read while gpu's being stressed.
Have a good OC thank you very much. thanks to trixx, whether or not its the best program to use, i dont know, but they provide me with them and fan controll, when i play bf3 i never let it go above 70 degrees and thats with my case fans down and gpu fan t 43%. i know for most thats still a bit cold, but i like consistancy to tell me if somthing is wrong.
Seeing as how i am new to this, what are the ratios? of core/memory/Voltage.
thats another thing, i didnt really see you post anything about the memory clock from what i see, just the core clock. if you could help ansewer my questions as best you can, id greatly appreciate it hai... Thorton may i ask you this :
what do u mean by "my CCC does not have overdrive built in"?
is it that "overdrive built in" which unlocks/bypasses CCC limit? if so, then you have to do some bios mod ( as i did with my hd5850 TF II - ccc overdrive limits to 775 core and 1125 mem - default 725/1000 ).
as with memory oc, do it just you oc the corelock. AFAIK there's no absolute ratios of core/memory and voltage. Besides memory increase has no significant affects to fps bump as that of core. no VCC has amd overdrive, but does not give me ANY options to wotk with my gpu, only my cpu, same with the application amd overdrive, only my cpu. i certainly do trust amd because they built it, but people who have done this claim otherwise. as for it not being much of a performance benifit, i run at around 50-55 fps when playing bf3, if i scale the window down to half size it runs at over 60 fps. and yes, it is VERRY noticeable. also, i am a 3d developer, and my card takes BEYOND allot of abuse from the open cl/open gl drivers. to be honest for the 3d stuff im probably gunna see more benifit in OCd ram, but of course the gpu is still rather important. anyways, if that gives you some better information to go on, thank you for helping me | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number was an hp, now is modified to mostly an NZXT corsair OS windows 7 home premium CPU amd phenom 2 black ed. 3.4ghz quad core Motherboard AMD am3 24fsb Memory 10 gb DDR3 Graphics Card ATI Radeon 6970 Monitor(s) Displays 3 1920x1080p 23" monitors (eyefinity display) Screen Resolution 5770x1080 Keyboard logitech g15 Mouse cyborg rat7 Case NZXT Phantom Cooling fan Hard Drives 1 750 gb HP 7500 rpm Internet Speed 24434kbps download rate |
28 Jan 2012
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#15 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by badger906 erm.. might i ask why you want to? up until a few weeks ago your card was one of the fastest single Gpu's around, only beaten by the 580gtx and the new 7970 (or what varients out now).
It would be a pointless achievement at best, you wont see improvements in game play as your already getting more than enough frames to spare. just my 2 cents well pence.. being a brit lol 1 word "BF3" it K.I.L.Ls my frame rate, sweet 60-65 down to 47-55 | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number was an hp, now is modified to mostly an NZXT corsair OS windows 7 home premium CPU amd phenom 2 black ed. 3.4ghz quad core Motherboard AMD am3 24fsb Memory 10 gb DDR3 Graphics Card ATI Radeon 6970 Monitor(s) Displays 3 1920x1080p 23" monitors (eyefinity display) Screen Resolution 5770x1080 Keyboard logitech g15 Mouse cyborg rat7 Case NZXT Phantom Cooling fan Hard Drives 1 750 gb HP 7500 rpm Internet Speed 24434kbps download rate |
28 Jan 2012
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#16 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by smarteyeball 
Quote: Originally Posted by Thornton
my CCC does not have overdrive built in, It should. It's called AMD overdrive - you have to 'unlock' it. Quote: i had to download it 3d party, but i dont trust it with my gpu, If you're going to use 3rd party, use MSI Afterburner
As for clock speeds - each card is different. That's why you raise the core/mem clocks in increments.
Keep raising the core and mem speeds on stock volts until it fails, then you can up the volts. It's trial and error. 
Quote: Originally Posted by badger906
It would be a pointless achievement at best, you wont see improvements in game play as your already getting more than enough frames to spare. BS
By that 'reckoning' I wouldn't need to OC my 580, nor would I notice any difference by doing so - but I do OC it and I do notice a difference. if i may ask... what does msi afterburner that trixx doesnt have, not to say i dont agree or that youre wrong... but this application too requires me to download the version for my card, so it really is individualized like your stating with afterburner. just curious, i am going to download it and try it out to see for my self, but from experience you may be able to tell me more than i can visually see right off the bat | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number was an hp, now is modified to mostly an NZXT corsair OS windows 7 home premium CPU amd phenom 2 black ed. 3.4ghz quad core Motherboard AMD am3 24fsb Memory 10 gb DDR3 Graphics Card ATI Radeon 6970 Monitor(s) Displays 3 1920x1080p 23" monitors (eyefinity display) Screen Resolution 5770x1080 Keyboard logitech g15 Mouse cyborg rat7 Case NZXT Phantom Cooling fan Hard Drives 1 750 gb HP 7500 rpm Internet Speed 24434kbps download rate |
28 Jan 2012
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#17 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by Thornton 
Quote: Originally Posted by peaceful 
Quote: Originally Posted by Thornton
thank you very much. thanks to trixx, whether or not its the best program to use, i dont know, but they provide me with them and fan controll, when i play bf3 i never let it go above 70 degrees and thats with my case fans down and gpu fan t 43%. i know for most thats still a bit cold, but i like consistancy to tell me if somthing is wrong.
Seeing as how i am new to this, what are the ratios? of core/memory/Voltage.
thats another thing, i didnt really see you post anything about the memory clock from what i see, just the core clock. if you could help ansewer my questions as best you can, id greatly appreciate it hai... Thorton may i ask you this :
what do u mean by "my CCC does not have overdrive built in"?
is it that "overdrive built in" which unlocks/bypasses CCC limit? if so, then you have to do some bios mod ( as i did with my hd5850 TF II - ccc overdrive limits to 775 core and 1125 mem - default 725/1000 ).
as with memory oc, do it just you oc the corelock. AFAIK there's no absolute ratios of core/memory and voltage. Besides memory increase has no significant affects to fps bump as that of core. no VCC has amd overdrive, but does not give me ANY options to wotk with my gpu, only my cpu, same with the application amd overdrive, only my cpu. i certainly do trust amd because they built it, but people who have done this claim otherwise. as for it not being much of a performance benifit, i run at around 50-55 fps when playing bf3, if i scale the window down to half size it runs at over 60 fps. and yes, it is VERRY noticeable. also, i am a 3d developer, and my card takes BEYOND allot of abuse from the open cl/open gl drivers. to be honest for the 3d stuff im probably gunna see more benifit in OCd ram, but of course the gpu is still rather important. anyways, if that gives you some better information to go on, thank you for helping me btw, what 3rd party gpu tweak you have in? reading from your system specs that u play bf3 with that high res, so i just guess that fps more than enogh. it might be helpful to bump your cpu clock to 4 to 4,2 ghz for at least 5 fps more than you got it now.
edit: sorry "TriXX" Sapphire | My System Specs | | OS Win7 Ult x64 SP1 CPU i7 920 / i5 2500K Motherboard eVGA Classified / As Rock Z68 X3 G3 Memory Corsair 6 gb Triple Channel / Corsair 8 GB Dual Channel Graphics Card Nvidia DA GTX 295 / MSI HD 5850 TF II Sound Card X-Fi Xtreme Fatality Gamer Monitor(s) Displays 2 x 22 inch Samsung / LG Screen Resolution 1680 * 1050 Keyboard Razer Lycosa Mirror Mouse Razer DA Blue PSU Silverstone 1500 Watt / Antec NeoPower 650 Watt Case Lian Li / CM Scout Cooling WC / Corsair Hydro H60 Other Info Mousepad:
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28 Jan 2012
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#18 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by peaceful 
Quote: Originally Posted by Thornton 
Quote: Originally Posted by peaceful
hai... Thorton may i ask you this :
what do u mean by "my CCC does not have overdrive built in"?
is it that "overdrive built in" which unlocks/bypasses CCC limit? if so, then you have to do some bios mod ( as i did with my hd5850 TF II - ccc overdrive limits to 775 core and 1125 mem - default 725/1000 ).
as with memory oc, do it just you oc the corelock. AFAIK there's no absolute ratios of core/memory and voltage. Besides memory increase has no significant affects to fps bump as that of core. no VCC has amd overdrive, but does not give me ANY options to wotk with my gpu, only my cpu, same with the application amd overdrive, only my cpu. i certainly do trust amd because they built it, but people who have done this claim otherwise. as for it not being much of a performance benifit, i run at around 50-55 fps when playing bf3, if i scale the window down to half size it runs at over 60 fps. and yes, it is VERRY noticeable. also, i am a 3d developer, and my card takes BEYOND allot of abuse from the open cl/open gl drivers. to be honest for the 3d stuff im probably gunna see more benifit in OCd ram, but of course the gpu is still rather important. anyways, if that gives you some better information to go on, thank you for helping me btw, what 3rd party gpu tweak you have in? reading from your system specs that u play bf3 with that high res, so i just guess that fps more than enogh. it might be helpful to bump your cpu clock to 4 to 4,2 ghz for at least 5 fps more than you got it now. i mean a 3d party application, im actually using amd overdrive, not an add on to VCC, and im only playing bf3 at 1920x1080, at full screen it only runs around 30 fps and the bf3 gui cant handle it but i only use overdrive for cpu | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number was an hp, now is modified to mostly an NZXT corsair OS windows 7 home premium CPU amd phenom 2 black ed. 3.4ghz quad core Motherboard AMD am3 24fsb Memory 10 gb DDR3 Graphics Card ATI Radeon 6970 Monitor(s) Displays 3 1920x1080p 23" monitors (eyefinity display) Screen Resolution 5770x1080 Keyboard logitech g15 Mouse cyborg rat7 Case NZXT Phantom Cooling fan Hard Drives 1 750 gb HP 7500 rpm Internet Speed 24434kbps download rate |
28 Jan 2012
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#19 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by Thornton 
Quote: Originally Posted by peaceful 
Quote: Originally Posted by Thornton
no VCC has amd overdrive, but does not give me ANY options to wotk with my gpu, only my cpu, same with the application amd overdrive, only my cpu. i certainly do trust amd because they built it, but people who have done this claim otherwise. as for it not being much of a performance benifit, i run at around 50-55 fps when playing bf3, if i scale the window down to half size it runs at over 60 fps. and yes, it is VERRY noticeable. also, i am a 3d developer, and my card takes BEYOND allot of abuse from the open cl/open gl drivers. to be honest for the 3d stuff im probably gunna see more benifit in OCd ram, but of course the gpu is still rather important. anyways, if that gives you some better information to go on, thank you for helping me btw, what 3rd party gpu tweak you have in? reading from your system specs that u play bf3 with that high res, so i just guess that fps more than enogh. it might be helpful to bump your cpu clock to 4 to 4,2 ghz for at least 5 fps more than you got it now. i mean a 3d party application, im actually using amd overdrive, not an add on to VCC, and im only playing bf3 at 1920x1080, at full screen it only runs around 30 fps and the bf3 gui cant handle it a noob question, now what coreclock & memclock your gpu in now? what's the max core & mem that amd overdriver provide for OC? | My System Specs | | OS Win7 Ult x64 SP1 CPU i7 920 / i5 2500K Motherboard eVGA Classified / As Rock Z68 X3 G3 Memory Corsair 6 gb Triple Channel / Corsair 8 GB Dual Channel Graphics Card Nvidia DA GTX 295 / MSI HD 5850 TF II Sound Card X-Fi Xtreme Fatality Gamer Monitor(s) Displays 2 x 22 inch Samsung / LG Screen Resolution 1680 * 1050 Keyboard Razer Lycosa Mirror Mouse Razer DA Blue PSU Silverstone 1500 Watt / Antec NeoPower 650 Watt Case Lian Li / CM Scout Cooling WC / Corsair Hydro H60 Other Info Mousepad:
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28 Jan 2012
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#20 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by peaceful 
Quote: Originally Posted by Thornton 
Quote: Originally Posted by peaceful
btw, what 3rd party gpu tweak you have in? reading from your system specs that u play bf3 with that high res, so i just guess that fps more than enogh. it might be helpful to bump your cpu clock to 4 to 4,2 ghz for at least 5 fps more than you got it now. i mean a 3d party application, im actually using amd overdrive, not an add on to VCC, and im only playing bf3 at 1920x1080, at full screen it only runs around 30 fps and the bf3 gui cant handle it a noob question, now what coreclock & memclock your gpu in now? what's the max core & mem that amd overdriver provide for OC? well ill say again, i use overdrive for cpu and trixx for gpu, but the defaults are, cor 880, memory 1375, and voltage 1175 | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number was an hp, now is modified to mostly an NZXT corsair OS windows 7 home premium CPU amd phenom 2 black ed. 3.4ghz quad core Motherboard AMD am3 24fsb Memory 10 gb DDR3 Graphics Card ATI Radeon 6970 Monitor(s) Displays 3 1920x1080p 23" monitors (eyefinity display) Screen Resolution 5770x1080 Keyboard logitech g15 Mouse cyborg rat7 Case NZXT Phantom Cooling fan Hard Drives 1 750 gb HP 7500 rpm Internet Speed 24434kbps download rate Help overclocking my 6970 problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:35 PM. | |