| Windows 7: will running my ram at 1600mhz damage my cpu's memory controller |
01 Mar 2012
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#1 | | win7 home prem x64 SP1 Droitwich spa uk |
will running my ram at 1600mhz damage my cpu's memory controller hi all
ive just been reading online and came across a warning that running 1600mhz ram with an amd cpu that has a memory controller set for 1333mhz will damage the controller. eventhough everythin seems stable.
im runnin this ram XMS3 at its manufactures settings.(although my mobo defaulted it to 1066mhz) and i have a phenom 965 be c3 running @3.8 on stock voltage using the multiplier.
everythin has been stable n never given me reson to think anythin is wrong.
i did'nt realise the 965 be mem controller was only 1333mhz. id never even thought about it
is there any truth in the statement i read n is my cpu's me controller likely to get damaged?
would i be better off dropping to 1333 and tighter timmings?
thanks in advance folks. any help is always much apreciated
the warning i read VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION REGARDING AMD AM3 CPU's and RAM SPEEDS
Last edited by ganjiry; 01 Mar 2012 at 01:23 PM..
| My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom build OS win7 home prem x64 SP1 CPU AMD Fx 6100 4.5GHz, 1.45v Motherboard Asus Crosshair V Formula 990fx Memory Corsair Vengeance1600 8GB (2x4) 9,9,9,24,2T Graphics Card Palit GTX670 Jetstream 2GB 2 way sli Sound Card Onboard SupremeFX X-Fi 2 Monitor(s) Displays Hanns G HL231, x2 Screen Resolution 3840X1080 Keyboard Coolermaster Quickfire Pro Mouse Cyborg MMO 7 PSU Corsair Ax 850 80plus Gold Case Corsair carbide 500R Cooling Corsair H100, 2 Cougar Vortex 120mm Hard Drives OCZ Agility3 120GB
1x1TB hitachi 7k1000.c, 1x1TB external hitachi Internet Speed 74mb dwn/16up Other Info 2x120+ 1x200 corsair stock white led intake, Rear Cougar Vortex 120 intake,Bottom 1x Cougar Vortex 120 .
temps
syst =28c
cpu = idle 32-35c.
cpu load 40c...intel burn test 45/50c
gpu temps idle =44
gpu load 56/60c,
speakers=Logitech z506 5.1 surround, headset=Roccat kaves 5.1
http://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/4401835 |
01 Mar 2012
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#2 | | |
This sentence is probably the major reason behind this claim:
"Excessively increasing voltages to the RAM and/or CPU in an effort to improve system stability could cause the Memory Controller to fail."
I expect these motherboards auto voltage the memory higher @ 1600 MHz in auto mode and this causes the problem, but that is just my speculation based on my experience (and not with AMD) on how motherboards tend to overvolt on auto settings.
Since reduced RAM speed isn't very noticeable in the real world, if you meet the criteria in that article, I would just run it at 1333 MHz (though I still wouldn't be too happy!). | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built (GeneO industries)/Model 3 OS Windows 7 64 bit SP1 CPU i5 2500k @ 4.5 GHz, 1.264V 124 GFlop (IBT with AVX) Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB (4GBx4) 1600MHz G.skill Ripjaws X 8-8-8-24 Graphics Card MSI GTX 660 Ti PE/OC, 2GB 7160 MHz DDR5 clock, 1228 Mhz Core Sound Card Onboard Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays NEC Spectraview 2490WUXi-SV Screen Resolution 1920 x 1200 Keyboard HP Wireless Mouse HP wireless PSU Seasonic X-850 (2012 KM3 model) Case Fractal Design "Define R3" Cooling CM TPC 812 push/pull, 3 120mm, 2 TY-140 case fans Hard Drives Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (System), Crucial 128GB M4 SSD, 2x WD Caviar 1TB Black internal (data), 1x WD Blue 6Gb/s 1TB Internal, 1x 2TB eSata WD20EARS Green, 2x 500GB Seagate external USB, 1x 350GB exte Internet Speed 27.8 Mb/s down, 5.6 Mb/s up Other Info USB 3.0 x4 , SATA III x4, eSATA x3, SATA II x4, USB 2.0 x8. 2 Samsung DVD R/W drives.
WEI: CPU 7.7, Memory 7.8, Graphics 7.9, Disk 7.9 |
01 Mar 2012
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 Mt. Crumpit/Whoville |
I have a 965BE on a Gigabyte board with some GSkill Ripjaws 2x4GB running well at 1600MHz. What needs to be done to prevent the over volting is to set your RAM volts and timings manually to what ever your RAM specs are. I also use the unganged mode as suggested in the article.
I did manage to get this RAM to 1640MHz stable, anymore would not be stable for me. Even going to the 1333 will not slow your system so much that you'd see a difference except in a benchmark test. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built Desktop By DataTech OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 CPU Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB G.Skill Sniper 2133MHz 4x4GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Onboard Realtek 5-1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Old, beat-up Dell USB From 10 yrs Ago Mouse Gigabyte m6900 wired PSU Corsair HX650W Case Inwin Dragon Rider Cooling Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB for OS, 750GB Seagate MomentusXT for data, 500GB Seagate Constellation for storage Internet Speed 8-19 Mbs down, 3-4 Mbs up Comcast Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE 9, Opera when needed Other Info 4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power generator with flux capacitor, 1.21 gigawatts. |
02 Mar 2012
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#4 | | win7 home prem x64 SP1 Droitwich spa uk |
ello
cheers 4 the reply. sorted! i did set all timmings n voltage manually to the manufacturers specs as my gigabyte board set my memory to 1066mhz when i installed it. at the time i had never really been in the bios so i gave someone on seven forums a right headache teachin me about memory 
in cpu-z it shows that its running at 1600mhz but pc3-8500f (533). i know this is normal for cpu-z.
if i decide to drop it to 1333mhz should i use the cpu-z suggested timmings of 9,9,9,26,35 @1.50v or should i try tighter timmings?
thanks!
also could someone tell me what the difference is between tested speed and spd speed , tested voltage n spd voltage plz http://www.corsair.com/cmx8gx3m2a1600c9.html | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom build OS win7 home prem x64 SP1 CPU AMD Fx 6100 4.5GHz, 1.45v Motherboard Asus Crosshair V Formula 990fx Memory Corsair Vengeance1600 8GB (2x4) 9,9,9,24,2T Graphics Card Palit GTX670 Jetstream 2GB 2 way sli Sound Card Onboard SupremeFX X-Fi 2 Monitor(s) Displays Hanns G HL231, x2 Screen Resolution 3840X1080 Keyboard Coolermaster Quickfire Pro Mouse Cyborg MMO 7 PSU Corsair Ax 850 80plus Gold Case Corsair carbide 500R Cooling Corsair H100, 2 Cougar Vortex 120mm Hard Drives OCZ Agility3 120GB
1x1TB hitachi 7k1000.c, 1x1TB external hitachi Internet Speed 74mb dwn/16up Other Info 2x120+ 1x200 corsair stock white led intake, Rear Cougar Vortex 120 intake,Bottom 1x Cougar Vortex 120 .
temps
syst =28c
cpu = idle 32-35c.
cpu load 40c...intel burn test 45/50c
gpu temps idle =44
gpu load 56/60c,
speakers=Logitech z506 5.1 surround, headset=Roccat kaves 5.1
http://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/4401835 |
02 Mar 2012
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 Mt. Crumpit/Whoville |
Good job, glad to hear you have it set. CPUz shows you at 1607MHz.
The tested voltage and speed is what the RAM has been configured to run at and be stable. If you want to try it at 1333, you can see if 8-9-9-24T would work. With timing adjustments it sometimes takes some experimentation to find a good setting.
Here's a Wiki on SPD Serial presence detect - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built Desktop By DataTech OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 CPU Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB G.Skill Sniper 2133MHz 4x4GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Onboard Realtek 5-1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Old, beat-up Dell USB From 10 yrs Ago Mouse Gigabyte m6900 wired PSU Corsair HX650W Case Inwin Dragon Rider Cooling Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB for OS, 750GB Seagate MomentusXT for data, 500GB Seagate Constellation for storage Internet Speed 8-19 Mbs down, 3-4 Mbs up Comcast Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE 9, Opera when needed Other Info 4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power generator with flux capacitor, 1.21 gigawatts. |
02 Mar 2012
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#6 | | win7 home prem x64 SP1 Droitwich spa uk |
ello n thanks for the info .i shall have a read shortly | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom build OS win7 home prem x64 SP1 CPU AMD Fx 6100 4.5GHz, 1.45v Motherboard Asus Crosshair V Formula 990fx Memory Corsair Vengeance1600 8GB (2x4) 9,9,9,24,2T Graphics Card Palit GTX670 Jetstream 2GB 2 way sli Sound Card Onboard SupremeFX X-Fi 2 Monitor(s) Displays Hanns G HL231, x2 Screen Resolution 3840X1080 Keyboard Coolermaster Quickfire Pro Mouse Cyborg MMO 7 PSU Corsair Ax 850 80plus Gold Case Corsair carbide 500R Cooling Corsair H100, 2 Cougar Vortex 120mm Hard Drives OCZ Agility3 120GB
1x1TB hitachi 7k1000.c, 1x1TB external hitachi Internet Speed 74mb dwn/16up Other Info 2x120+ 1x200 corsair stock white led intake, Rear Cougar Vortex 120 intake,Bottom 1x Cougar Vortex 120 .
temps
syst =28c
cpu = idle 32-35c.
cpu load 40c...intel burn test 45/50c
gpu temps idle =44
gpu load 56/60c,
speakers=Logitech z506 5.1 surround, headset=Roccat kaves 5.1
http://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/4401835 |
02 Mar 2012
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#7 | | win7 home prem x64 SP1 Droitwich spa uk |
dropped to 1333 @ cpu-z's timmings. when i had it at 1600 the fsb;dram was 1.4 but now its at 3.10. should it change this much?? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom build OS win7 home prem x64 SP1 CPU AMD Fx 6100 4.5GHz, 1.45v Motherboard Asus Crosshair V Formula 990fx Memory Corsair Vengeance1600 8GB (2x4) 9,9,9,24,2T Graphics Card Palit GTX670 Jetstream 2GB 2 way sli Sound Card Onboard SupremeFX X-Fi 2 Monitor(s) Displays Hanns G HL231, x2 Screen Resolution 3840X1080 Keyboard Coolermaster Quickfire Pro Mouse Cyborg MMO 7 PSU Corsair Ax 850 80plus Gold Case Corsair carbide 500R Cooling Corsair H100, 2 Cougar Vortex 120mm Hard Drives OCZ Agility3 120GB
1x1TB hitachi 7k1000.c, 1x1TB external hitachi Internet Speed 74mb dwn/16up Other Info 2x120+ 1x200 corsair stock white led intake, Rear Cougar Vortex 120 intake,Bottom 1x Cougar Vortex 120 .
temps
syst =28c
cpu = idle 32-35c.
cpu load 40c...intel burn test 45/50c
gpu temps idle =44
gpu load 56/60c,
speakers=Logitech z506 5.1 surround, headset=Roccat kaves 5.1
http://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/4401835 |
02 Mar 2012
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 Mt. Crumpit/Whoville |

Quote: Originally Posted by ganjiry dropped to 1333 @ cpu-z's timmings. when i had it at 1600 the fsb;dram was 1.4 but now its at 3.10. should it change this much?? Yup, it's normal. The FSB:RAM freq changes like that when you drop it, nuttin' to worry about. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built Desktop By DataTech OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 CPU Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB G.Skill Sniper 2133MHz 4x4GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Onboard Realtek 5-1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Old, beat-up Dell USB From 10 yrs Ago Mouse Gigabyte m6900 wired PSU Corsair HX650W Case Inwin Dragon Rider Cooling Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB for OS, 750GB Seagate MomentusXT for data, 500GB Seagate Constellation for storage Internet Speed 8-19 Mbs down, 3-4 Mbs up Comcast Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE 9, Opera when needed Other Info 4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power generator with flux capacitor, 1.21 gigawatts. |
03 Mar 2012
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#9 | | win7 home prem x64 SP1 Droitwich spa uk |
cheers! il try some tighter settings a bit later.
when i did change it to 1333 everythin seemed to run like shit but seems ok this mornin. i forgot to add the screenie to last msg..
everythin look ok? it does my head in why everythin sees my ram as 1066 eventhough it 1600. when i first installed it my mobo defaulted it to 1066. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom build OS win7 home prem x64 SP1 CPU AMD Fx 6100 4.5GHz, 1.45v Motherboard Asus Crosshair V Formula 990fx Memory Corsair Vengeance1600 8GB (2x4) 9,9,9,24,2T Graphics Card Palit GTX670 Jetstream 2GB 2 way sli Sound Card Onboard SupremeFX X-Fi 2 Monitor(s) Displays Hanns G HL231, x2 Screen Resolution 3840X1080 Keyboard Coolermaster Quickfire Pro Mouse Cyborg MMO 7 PSU Corsair Ax 850 80plus Gold Case Corsair carbide 500R Cooling Corsair H100, 2 Cougar Vortex 120mm Hard Drives OCZ Agility3 120GB
1x1TB hitachi 7k1000.c, 1x1TB external hitachi Internet Speed 74mb dwn/16up Other Info 2x120+ 1x200 corsair stock white led intake, Rear Cougar Vortex 120 intake,Bottom 1x Cougar Vortex 120 .
temps
syst =28c
cpu = idle 32-35c.
cpu load 40c...intel burn test 45/50c
gpu temps idle =44
gpu load 56/60c,
speakers=Logitech z506 5.1 surround, headset=Roccat kaves 5.1
http://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/4401835 |
03 Mar 2012
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#10 | | Windows 7 Professional 64bit Auckland, New Zealand |
Its normal for motherboards to automatically lower RAM timing according to the sorts of CPUs that go in the motherboards socket. My motherboard for example down clocks my Corsair Vengeance to 1333mhz by default, although I have overclocked it, I am on Intel so unfortunately I can not offer advice there. I can however comment that that is the ram I had previous to my vengeance and it is very nice ram  good choice. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Windows 7 Professional 64bit CPU Intel i7 3770k 3.5ghz Motherboard Asus P8Z77-V Deluxe Memory Corsair Vengeance 16gb (4x4gb) Graphics Card Gigabyte GV-R795WF3-3GD Raedon 7950 OC 1200/1600mhz core/mem Sound Card None Monitor(s) Displays AOC 23.6" (main) HP 1730 (side) Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech G110 gaming keyboard Mouse Gigabyte M6900 PSU Corsair AX-650W ATX Case Corsair 500R black Cooling Corsair 500r Stock cooling (3x120mm, 1x200mm) & Corsair H100 Hard Drives Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB - 64mb cache
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