| Windows 7: Some questions about OC and selecting right case and fans |
28 Apr 2012
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#1 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 - Service Pack 1 |
Some questions about OC and selecting right case and fans Hello, SF members.
Some members already know me, I asked a several questions about OC and my computer.
Thanks again to James7679 who helped me a lot with this.
I want to continue this theard : {Beginner - HOW TO} Overclock your computer ? . I asked new, because that is old and sloved.
OK, I'm going on questions. 1.
In Europe will be summer for 1-2 months. In my country today was 28-30°C, for 1 month can be 40°C. Last summer I had problem with overheating.
I can play NFS:Carbon for only 30min , and after I can't use my computer. My case is very hot and whole computer.
Now, I want to upgrade my computer with new case and cooling.
1a. Can anyone recommend to me cheaper and expensive version of case good for OC and other ?
1b. Can anyone recommend to me good cooling and fans ? Is Water Cooling good and Is there any good ?
1c. Do I need new PSU for more fans and better cooling ?
I did one small Prime95 test, so you can see my temp. and other informations. 2.
I know all problems in my build. My CPU don't have good potential for Overclocking, but I will back on this. I think, I will upgrade my computer soon and I want to improve my overclocking skills.
2a. Can BIOS version or any software affect my overclock ? For better OC, do I need to update BIOS ?
2b. I want to continue that question from other theard. Can someone analzye my statistic about computer ? I will attach pictures with Prime95 test and other. Today, I loaded optimized settings and run tests again (like James7679 said in last theard).
For people who will analzye my computer.
2b.a. ? Is my currently build good (don't include CPU, I know it's bad  )
2.b.b. ? What can I upgrade too ?
That is all for now.
Please answer soon and thanks in advance.
Trinty  .
Edit : I forgot my attachment. Sorry for this.
Last edited by Trinty; 28 Apr 2012 at 04:13 PM..
Reason: Forgot attachment !
| My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Trinty Self Build 2011 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 - Service Pack 1 CPU Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU G620 @ 2.60GHz Motherboard ASUSTeK Computer INC. P8H61-M LX2 Memory Transcend Informations - 2*2048GB DDR3 @ 1066MHz Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 5670 - 1024MB DDR5 - Driver : 19.04.2011 Sound Card AMD High Definition Audio Device Monitor(s) Displays SAMSUNG SyncMaster 2220LM 22" Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard MS Industrial 2.4GHz Wirelees Keyboard Mouse MS Industrial 2.4GHz Wirelees Optical Mouse PSU Don't know for now ! Case Case MSI Cooling Stock Hard Drives SAMSUNG HD503HI ATA Device - 500GB Internet Speed Download speed : 6,5Mbps / Upload speed : 1Mpbs Other Info BIOS version : BIOS Date: 02/05/10 19:13:52 Ver: 08.00.10
Prime95 (4h) : max. 65°C
DirectX 11 version.
Logitech G13 Advanced Gaming Keyboard. |
29 Apr 2012
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 In front of my computer |
Just looking at your CPU temperatures, they look fine!
Can you install HWMonitor or other temperature monitoring software, and record your temperatures while playing for 10 min of NFS? I'm thinking it's not the CPU that is having trouble, and it would help to see all the system temperatures.
The next thing I would check is the PSU - you absolutely need a good quality PSU. I would recommend Antec, Seasonic or Corsair. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-3960X Motherboard Intel DX79SI Memory 16 GB GSkill DDR3-2133 CL9 Graphics Card EVGA SC GTX 680 Sound Card Onboard Realtek Monitor(s) Displays Dell 2005FPW Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard Microsoft Natural 4000 PSU Corsair 850W HX Case Corsair 500R Cooling Corsair H100 Hard Drives Intel 520 SSD 240 GB,
2x Seagate 7200.12 1 TB |
29 Apr 2012
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#3 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Malmö, Sweden |
Have you already tried O.C? I see your vcore is at 1.14 is that not a bit to much for a dual core at 2.6Ghz? I haven't used a lot of different CPU's but my brothers i7 860 is running at stock and I have manually put 1.03, or does that cpu require more vcore?
And as long as gaming goes I would check your graphic card and see how hot it is running when your gaming
And do you only have 1 fan in your whole case on the cpu or the rest connected straight away to your PSU & your +12V is at 6.55v is not something wrong with that? | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 CPU Intel Core i7 860 (Lynnfield) Motherboard Asus P7P55D (LGA1156) Memory Corsair Vengeance 9,9,9,24 1600Mhz 1.50v 2x4G Graphics Card Asus nVidia 560 GTX Sound Card Asus Xonar DG Monitor(s) Displays Acer P235H & NEC E201W Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 900x1600 Keyboard Ducky Shine Mouse tT Theron PSU Corsair 650 Modular Case Corsair 800D Cooling Corsair H80 with Noctua fans Hard Drives 2 Internet Speed 100/100 Browser IE10 |
29 Apr 2012
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 - Service Pack 1 |
Hello, Seeliewight and Andreas W.
First, thanks for answering on my question.
My current temperatures is good for now. But, I want to be prepared for summer as I said. Currently , there is spring, and temepratures is not higher then 30°C, but can be higher for less then one month.
I will play NFS for 10-20 minutes, and will attach pictures with temeratures.
For my PSU, I only don't know for this. I think that is 400-500W one classic (not Corsair or other high quality).
I never tried to OC for NOW. I will try for maybe some days. I didn't changed anything in BIOS or used any program for this. I only loaded defaults in BIOS and that is all. For that VCORE , I for sure didn't changed anything. Maybe when I bought my computer. Is there any problem with this ?
For Fans. I have two, I think. One on CPU , and other the is near PSU on last side of my computer. That is all !
Questions :
1. What do you think about my computer ? Is it good for one small OC (I know for CPU, I hate this !  ) ?
2. What do I need to upgrade for now (after CPU) ?
Thanks in advance, and please answer soon.
Trinty | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Trinty Self Build 2011 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 - Service Pack 1 CPU Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU G620 @ 2.60GHz Motherboard ASUSTeK Computer INC. P8H61-M LX2 Memory Transcend Informations - 2*2048GB DDR3 @ 1066MHz Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 5670 - 1024MB DDR5 - Driver : 19.04.2011 Sound Card AMD High Definition Audio Device Monitor(s) Displays SAMSUNG SyncMaster 2220LM 22" Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard MS Industrial 2.4GHz Wirelees Keyboard Mouse MS Industrial 2.4GHz Wirelees Optical Mouse PSU Don't know for now ! Case Case MSI Cooling Stock Hard Drives SAMSUNG HD503HI ATA Device - 500GB Internet Speed Download speed : 6,5Mbps / Upload speed : 1Mpbs Other Info BIOS version : BIOS Date: 02/05/10 19:13:52 Ver: 08.00.10
Prime95 (4h) : max. 65°C
DirectX 11 version.
Logitech G13 Advanced Gaming Keyboard. |
29 Apr 2012
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#5 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Malmö, Sweden |
Personally I would get rid of core temp and speedfan and use HWmonitor instead, and I do think your vcore is a tad high but I would guess it runs in auto right now since you haven't touched bios settings. You're CPU temps are good so you got room for some O.C.
This is how I would do it, put all settings in your bios to manual set all you're voltages to standard & minimum & last I would reduce the vcore quite a bit, try putting it down to 1.04. Then do Prime95 and after your computer is stable at default/minimum settings you can start O.C & if your computer is not stable at 1.04 just increase it with 1 incline at the time
If your RAM require 1.65 dram volt your IMC/VTT needs to be 1.15 but if your dram volt is 1.50 you can leave it at 1.10
And if you havent google around so you can get good explanations on what the different volts do, and you can google your CPU & or motherboard and see what overs have gotten for results in O.C | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 CPU Intel Core i7 860 (Lynnfield) Motherboard Asus P7P55D (LGA1156) Memory Corsair Vengeance 9,9,9,24 1600Mhz 1.50v 2x4G Graphics Card Asus nVidia 560 GTX Sound Card Asus Xonar DG Monitor(s) Displays Acer P235H & NEC E201W Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 900x1600 Keyboard Ducky Shine Mouse tT Theron PSU Corsair 650 Modular Case Corsair 800D Cooling Corsair H80 with Noctua fans Hard Drives 2 Internet Speed 100/100 Browser IE10 |
29 Apr 2012
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Southern California |
Regarding a good case for cooling and that of course includes sealed water systems.
For a open air gamer look with every conceivable option look no further than: Newegg.com - Antec Lanboy air Blue Black / Blue ATX Mid Tower Computer Modular Case
Then for a upgraded classic look this is hard to beat: Corsair CC-9011013-WW Carbide Series 500R Mid Tower Gaming Case - ATX, mATX, 4x Ext 5.25 Bays, 6x Int 3.5 Bays, 1x 200mm and 2x 120mm White LED Fans, 1x 120mm Fan, 2x USB 3.0 and 1x FireWire Ports at TigerDirect
Cooling Corsair push/pull H80 or spend the extra for premium quiet fans like I did on the H100: | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number A blend of brains, brawn and dumb luck, ask me about rig #2 ! OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 CPU i7 3770k OC'd 4.6 @ 1.17v, still love my FX 8120 Motherboard MSI P67A-GD80 b3 Memory 16 gb Crucial Ballistix Tracer DDR3 9-9-9-27 @ 2000 Graphics Card XFX Radeon 7870 Sound Card On board HD audio with lossless 24 bit/192 sample rate Monitor(s) Displays (2) LG LED 23" 1920 x 1080 2ms Monitors via mini d-port Screen Resolution 1680 X 1050 p Keyboard (2) Logitech Illuminated Keyboards (1) usb (1) wireless K800 Mouse Logitech G9x & T-BC21 - nano nx for the laptop PSU Ultra X4 modular 1050 watt 80% silver rating & APC 1200 RS Case CoolerMaster Storm Styker Cooling 6 case fans 140mm & 120mm, Thermaltake h2o extreme Hard Drives Samsung 256 gb 830 SSD sata III
(2) 1 tb Hitachi deskmates/sata II
(1) 1 tb WD green/sata II
(2) 2 tb WD My Book/esata
(1) 500 gb Sea. Freeagent/esata
(2) 250 gb Sea. Freeagent go's/usb
(1) WD 2 tb Green 64 sata III
(1) 120 gb OCZ Vertex SS Internet Speed Upgraded from bottom of the barrel to bareable Other Info 4 Noctua case fans + 3 Noctua in p/p on H100 cooler
Integrated hot swap drive bays for 2.5" Drives
(2) Lite-on dvd/cd optical 22X
Integrated fan controller and led on/off
HP Officejet Pro L7680 all-n-one
HP 4 laserjet (the beast)
Hot swappable 3.5" hard drive bay
Belkin Play N600 HD router
Asus USB 3 & sata 6 PCIe card
Vantec IDE to sata adptr./Ultra sata adptr
HP Probook i3 laptop |
29 Apr 2012
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#7 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
You aren't likely to need a new PSU just because you add fans. Fans use very, very little power.
Find out what diameter fans you need and then look for good brands like Noctua, Scythe, or Nexus. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
30 Apr 2012
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 - Service Pack 1 |
Hello, people.
Sorry for my small lateing and thanks for fast and good answers.
Today, I went outside for 3-4h. When I backed, I opened BIOS for only 5-10minutes to make some small images and after this (I will attach picture), temerature of my CPU was 45°C. I think that is high for 5 minute work in BIOS. I don't know.
And, I did a NFS:Carbon test, too. I will attach picture and you will see details.
After all this....
I tried to find voltage settings, but I have one problem. My BIOS is not one classic. It is ASUS EFI BIOS Tool. I can say , that I hate it ! People said Advanced mode is like old one BIOS, but for me : THAT NEVER CAN BE GOOD BIOS !
I will attach pictures with voltages so you can read it.
For Case... I like that Corsair CC-9011013-WW. That is very good.Antec is ugly for me , I dont like it.
Tommorow , I will ask new questions. For Today, you can read my pictures and said something what you think about my computer.
Please answer soon and thanks in advance.
Trinty | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Trinty Self Build 2011 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 - Service Pack 1 CPU Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU G620 @ 2.60GHz Motherboard ASUSTeK Computer INC. P8H61-M LX2 Memory Transcend Informations - 2*2048GB DDR3 @ 1066MHz Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 5670 - 1024MB DDR5 - Driver : 19.04.2011 Sound Card AMD High Definition Audio Device Monitor(s) Displays SAMSUNG SyncMaster 2220LM 22" Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard MS Industrial 2.4GHz Wirelees Keyboard Mouse MS Industrial 2.4GHz Wirelees Optical Mouse PSU Don't know for now ! Case Case MSI Cooling Stock Hard Drives SAMSUNG HD503HI ATA Device - 500GB Internet Speed Download speed : 6,5Mbps / Upload speed : 1Mpbs Other Info BIOS version : BIOS Date: 02/05/10 19:13:52 Ver: 08.00.10
Prime95 (4h) : max. 65°C
DirectX 11 version.
Logitech G13 Advanced Gaming Keyboard. |
30 Apr 2012
|
#9 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
A CPU temp of 45 at idle, with an ambient temp of 30, is not bad. Not excellent, but tolerable, particularly since you don't appear to have an exhaust fan.
Is it true that you have no exhaust fan? I see none in HWInfo.
If you have only a CPU fan and the power supply fan, you can't expect the best temperatures.
If you do have an exhaust fan, it doesn't seem to be listed in your monitoring app. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
01 May 2012
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#10 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 - Service Pack 1 |
Thank you for fast answer.
Today, I have a lot of free time. I will try Prime95 test for much more if I can.
After this, I will upload new pictures and you will see, again my results.
For fans. I said , I have only CPU and Power Supply fan. That is all and that is my problem. In summer, when my room is too hot , I have problem with overheating.
That is not good for my computer and myself.
I want to be prepared for this. I want to start with new case and new fans.
Problem is, I can't find in my country Corsair cases and good fans. I will try to find it but it is not easy
I don't have for now 2000$ and more for best computer. I will do what I said. Start with good case and fans, after motherboard and Intel i7 with K.....
Thanks to all for help.
I'm going to create another theard with another questions.
Theard is sloved (for now  )
++ Rep to all (if I can)
Trinty | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Trinty Self Build 2011 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 - Service Pack 1 CPU Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU G620 @ 2.60GHz Motherboard ASUSTeK Computer INC. P8H61-M LX2 Memory Transcend Informations - 2*2048GB DDR3 @ 1066MHz Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 5670 - 1024MB DDR5 - Driver : 19.04.2011 Sound Card AMD High Definition Audio Device Monitor(s) Displays SAMSUNG SyncMaster 2220LM 22" Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard MS Industrial 2.4GHz Wirelees Keyboard Mouse MS Industrial 2.4GHz Wirelees Optical Mouse PSU Don't know for now ! Case Case MSI Cooling Stock Hard Drives SAMSUNG HD503HI ATA Device - 500GB Internet Speed Download speed : 6,5Mbps / Upload speed : 1Mpbs Other Info BIOS version : BIOS Date: 02/05/10 19:13:52 Ver: 08.00.10
Prime95 (4h) : max. 65°C
DirectX 11 version.
Logitech G13 Advanced Gaming Keyboard. Some questions about OC and selecting right case and fans problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:44 AM. | |