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18 Mar 2013
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#1541 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64/ linux in VM NW Florida |
I'm really not sure. It has never bothered me. I just assumed if they put it there, you were supposed to use it. Not so, according to Asus. Assuming they know what they are talking about. I only connected the 8 pin and have had no problems so far. | My System Specs |
| Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built- Always under construction OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64/ linux in VM CPU Intel i7-3770K Motherboard Asus Maximus V Extreme Z77 Memory 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws Z DDR3-2400 (2X4GB) Graphics Card EVGA GTX 670 SC 4GB Sound Card On Board Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24" LCD Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech G500 PSU CORSAIR AX850 Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Custom Water Cooling Hard Drives Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB, Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB, Samsung 830 256GB, Samsung HD103SJ 1TB . External HD- Black X dock esata 1TB Samsung Spinpoint, Rosewill USB 3.0 dock 1TB Samsung Spinpoint Internet Speed carrier pigeon speed Antivirus MSE/MBAM Browser ie8 Other Info 2nd Rig,Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64, i7-2600K, Asrock P67 Extreme 4, 8GB DDR3-2133, HAF XM case, Noctua NH-D14, Gigabyte HD6950 OC 1GB, 2 X Crucial M4 128GB, Asus 24" LED.
Laptop- Samsung RF711-SO1 17" i5-2310M, 8GB DDR3-1333, Crucial M4 and OCZ vertex2, Nvidia GT540M.Win 7 HP X64 SP1. |
19 Mar 2013
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#1542 | | 64bit Windows 7 Ultimate South Africa |
Well just to add my 2cents, I had majour problems when I tried to overclock my cpu,untill I plugged in the extra 4pin, I didnt think it would be nesasarry cause it allready had a 8pin in, but it worked and overclocking isue solved. So I dont know why, all i can think of is rather have it and not need it, then need it and not have it. But for temps etc I dont think it matters | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built OS 64bit Windows 7 Ultimate CPU Intel i7 3930k oc-4.3 ghz Motherboard Asus Rampage IV extreme Memory 32g-8x4gig Corsair Vengance DDR3 1600 Graphics Card Sli - EVGA gtx580 hydro copper 2 Sound Card Onboard Monitor(s) Displays Samsung S27" a950D 3D Screen Resolution 1920X1080P Keyboard Razer blackwidow Ultimate Mouse Razer Mamba 2012 4G PSU Corsair AX1200w Case Silverstone TJ11 B-W Cooling Water Cooled Hard Drives 1 x 120GB OCZ Vertex 3 6g/s SSD (os-drive),
1 x 120GB Corsair Force 6g/s SSD (games)
1 x 120GB Corsair Force 6g/s SSD (games2)
1 x 1TB Seagate,
1 x 1TB WD,
1 x 1TB Iomega |
19 Mar 2013
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#1543 | | win7 home prem x64 SP1 Droitwich spa uk |
+1 for the 4pin eps not being needed on the V Formula, Its just for stability at higher cpu oc's. I bought the Ax 850 because it had the extra eps connector but to use it meant i would only be able to run 1 gpu. The extra eps use's one of the Pcie output connectors 
As others have said, it's not a must to use it but it helps. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom build OS win7 home prem x64 SP1 CPU AMD Fx 6100 4.5GHz, 1.44v Motherboard Asus Crosshair V Formula 990fx Memory Corsair Vengeance1600 8GB (2x4) 9,9,9,24,2T Graphics Card Palit GTX670 Jetstream 2GB 2 way sli Sound Card Onboard SupremeFX X-Fi 2 Monitor(s) Displays Hanns G HL231, x2 Screen Resolution 3840X1080 Keyboard Coolermaster Quickfire Pro Mouse Cyborg MMO 7 PSU Corsair Ax 850 80plus Gold Case Corsair carbide 500R Cooling Corsair H100, 2 Cougar Vortex 120mm Hard Drives OCZ Agility3 120GB
1x1TB hitachi 7k1000.c, 1x1TB external hitachi Internet Speed 74mb dwn/16up Other Info 2x120+ 1x200 corsair stock white led intake, Rear Cougar Vortex 120 intake,Bottom 1x Cougar Vortex 120 .
temps
syst =28c
cpu = idle 32-35c.
cpu load 40c...intel burn test 45/50c
gpu temps idle =44
gpu load 56/60c,
speakers=Logitech z506 5.1 surround, headset=Roccat kaves 5.1
http://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/4401835 |
19 Mar 2013
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#1544 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Bay Area Peninsula |
Were the standards not developed when CPU's were 150w, like P4's, and many, if not most are now 100w. I believe the 4 pin was actually for the 150w, no? In any case, I think the leads all combine to the same path, and are from the same rail of the PSU. Discuss
A Guy | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 CPU INTEL Core i5-750 Quad-Core 3.37GHz Motherboard ASUS P7P55D Memory KINGSTON 4GB (2 x 2GB) HyperX PC3-12800 DDR3 1600MHz CL8 Graphics Card MSI N240GT-MD1G/D5 GeForce GT 240 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster B2430H 24" Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 PSU ANTEC TruePower New TP-550, 80 PLUS, 550W Case ANTEC Three Hundred Illusion Cooling COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus, 4 x 120mm 1 x 140mm Noctua's Hard Drives Intel X25M Gen2 80GB, SEAGATE 500GB Barracudaź 7200.12, SATA 3 Gb/s, 7200 RPM, 16MB cache Internet Speed 20 + Mbps Antivirus Avast Browser Opera |
19 Mar 2013
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#1545 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 Mt. Crumpit/Whoville |
I'll go along with that Bill. On many boards. like mine, which have a single 8-pin Extended Power Supply (EPS) plug, the instructions say one may use only a 4-pin connector. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built Desktop By DataTech OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 CPU Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB G.Skill Sniper 2133MHz 4x4GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Onboard Realtek 5-1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Old, beat-up Dell USB From 10 yrs Ago Mouse Gigabyte m6900 wired PSU Corsair HX650W Case Inwin Dragon Rider Cooling Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB for OS, 750GB Seagate MomentusXT for data, 500GB Seagate Constellation for storage Internet Speed 8-19 Mbs down, 3-4 Mbs up Comcast Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE 9, Opera when needed Other Info 4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power generator with flux capacitor, 1.21 gigawatts. |
19 Mar 2013
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#1546 | | Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit At home. |

Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald 
Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe Core temp will. I have mine set that way. But, is your max temp T Case or TJ Max? TCase is the temp in the center of the CPU that no software I know of can read. TJ Max is the Temp Junction. The temp of the cores, that's what software reads. TJ Max usually has a higher max than TCase. Core temp will tell you what it is.
EDIT: as an example, I believe my 3770K has a Tcase Max of 72°C but TJ Max is 105°C I haven't the foggiest notion which it is. I had fun just finding the figure I did find.
I'll check out Core temp. Thanks! I've got Core Temp up and running on my machine and, other than all the crapware it both tries to install and actually installs (which I promptly got rid of), it's exactly what I wanted (and it has pretty colors)! Thanks again! I'd rep you but the forum says I have to spread some around elsewhere first. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit CPU Intel i7-3930K Motherboard ASUS P9X79 WS Memory Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR Graphics Card MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR Sound Card On board Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays HP w2207h Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech M525 (two in use) PSU Corsair HX750w Case Antec Two Hundred v2 Cooling Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm) Hard Drives Samsun 128GB 840 Pro
Western Digital WD Black WD2002FAEX 2TB
Western Digital WD Black WD2002FAEX 2TB Internet Speed fair to middlin' Antivirus AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Browser IE9 Other Info LSI 9211-8i SATA III controller card (eight more SATA III ports), 2.5" & 3.5" Hot Swap Bays, HooToo HT-CR001 PCI-E to USB 3.0 Internal Combo - 3 Ports USB 3.0 Hub + 6 Slot Card Reader, and LG Model CH12LS28 BD-ROM Combo Optical Drive. Also, ScanSnap S1500 ADF duplexing scanner, Canon 9000F flat bed scanner, Logitech 5.1 speaker system, Samsung CLP 415nw laser color printer, |
19 Mar 2013
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#1547 | | Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 Australia |

Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe Core temp will. I have mine set that way. But, is your max temp T Case or TJ Max? TCase is the temp in the center of the CPU that no software I know of can read. TJ Max is the Temp Junction. The temp of the cores, that's what software reads. TJ Max usually has a higher max than TCase. Core temp will tell you what it is.
EDIT: as an example, I believe my 3770K has a Tcase Max of 72°C but TJ Max is 105°C This is my understanding Safe CPU Temperatures? running from 9C-24C is it too cold?
I have some reference buried somewhere. I have found it interesting that Intel seem to give Tcase (& power) as their spec limits.
I have personally found that Open Hardware Monitor is a good tool and it appears their temp readings are:
1) under my Nuvoton NCT6776F CPU Core Temp it gives the Tcase
2) under my Intel Core i7-2600K CPU Core Temps it gives Tcore
As a rule of thumb I think Tcore ~= Tcase +10c. I also think most of the temperatature monitor programs estimate Tcore. So in summary if the Tcore reading is near Tcase|max+10c then things are too hot.
My 2600k overclocked to 4.3G may nudge 65c Tcore but hovers around 55c Tcase and is well under the Tcase|max of 72.6c.
I stand to be corrected. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (+ Recased Acer Aspire x1800) OS Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 CPU Intel i7 2600k Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Memory G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+) Monitor(s) Displays Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech MK520 (wireless) Mouse Logitech MK520 PSU Seasonic M12II 520W Case Lian Li Lancool PC-K60 Cooling Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+ Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB (000F), Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS + Internet Speed 6-7 Mbps Antivirus Norton NIS, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC) Browser FireFox Other Info Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1 |
19 Mar 2013
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#1548 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 Mt. Crumpit/Whoville |
The Tcase max on mine is 72.6C, while TJmax is 101C. Tcase can't be read as I take it, it is the temp in the center of the Integrated Heat Sink (IHS). One reference | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built Desktop By DataTech OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 CPU Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB G.Skill Sniper 2133MHz 4x4GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Onboard Realtek 5-1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Old, beat-up Dell USB From 10 yrs Ago Mouse Gigabyte m6900 wired PSU Corsair HX650W Case Inwin Dragon Rider Cooling Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB for OS, 750GB Seagate MomentusXT for data, 500GB Seagate Constellation for storage Internet Speed 8-19 Mbs down, 3-4 Mbs up Comcast Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE 9, Opera when needed Other Info 4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power generator with flux capacitor, 1.21 gigawatts. |
19 Mar 2013
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#1549 | | Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit At home. |
Re: second EPS connector. My P9X79 WS has the 8 pin EPS connector and also a 4 pin Molex connector insted of the usual 4 pin connector. According to the manual (yes, I actually read those things), it's for when more power is needed when running three or more graphics card. I didn't know that it was optional since I'm going to be running only one GPU card until after I got the board so I had a Molex cable and connector ready before the MOBO arrived. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit CPU Intel i7-3930K Motherboard ASUS P9X79 WS Memory Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR Graphics Card MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR Sound Card On board Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays HP w2207h Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech M525 (two in use) PSU Corsair HX750w Case Antec Two Hundred v2 Cooling Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm) Hard Drives Samsun 128GB 840 Pro
Western Digital WD Black WD2002FAEX 2TB
Western Digital WD Black WD2002FAEX 2TB Internet Speed fair to middlin' Antivirus AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Browser IE9 Other Info LSI 9211-8i SATA III controller card (eight more SATA III ports), 2.5" & 3.5" Hot Swap Bays, HooToo HT-CR001 PCI-E to USB 3.0 Internal Combo - 3 Ports USB 3.0 Hub + 6 Slot Card Reader, and LG Model CH12LS28 BD-ROM Combo Optical Drive. Also, ScanSnap S1500 ADF duplexing scanner, Canon 9000F flat bed scanner, Logitech 5.1 speaker system, Samsung CLP 415nw laser color printer, |
19 Mar 2013
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#1550 | | Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 Australia |

Quote: Originally Posted by Britton30 The Tcase max on mine is 72.6C, while TJmax is 101C. Tcase can't be read as I take it, it is the temp in the center of the Integrated Heat Sink (IHS). One reference I guess we agree. The best measure of heat damage to PN junctions is Tcore and definitely Tjunction.
So Intel why is Tcase a useful measure in practical situations since it is generally estimated? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (+ Recased Acer Aspire x1800) OS Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 CPU Intel i7 2600k Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Memory G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+) Monitor(s) Displays Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech MK520 (wireless) Mouse Logitech MK520 PSU Seasonic M12II 520W Case Lian Li Lancool PC-K60 Cooling Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+ Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB (000F), Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS + Internet Speed 6-7 Mbps Antivirus Norton NIS, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC) Browser FireFox Other Info Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1 Show Us Your Rig [4] problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:12 AM. | |