| Windows 7: Can I change PSU fan? |
07 Jan 2013
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#11 | | Win7 Ultimate X64 England |

Quote: Originally Posted by Britton30 Never discharge a capacitor by shorting the terminals, it can over heat rapidly and even explode hot materials in your face. I never realised that but im a sparky by trade so i am more used to dealing with mains electrics than low voltage stuff and thats how we discharge stuff in work, mainly HV caps in microwave and similar machinery they charge at 3000 to 6000 volts and make a pretty flash and a bang when you discharge them if there full but i accept they are totally different bits of kit to psu caps
So i apologise if i gave a bummer there 
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#12 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Boston |
Pauly are you kidding, discharging with a wire, as an electronic engineer, there is no such discharging method ever heard, discharging a HV capacitor need an electronic circuit with a resistor so the energy inside the capacitor would change into heat in a period of time. in physics we have a theory that energy wont disappear in the space, and it would just change from one form to another. like from electricity into heat or mechanical energy. Bungee, if you want to clean your psu, as previous discussion i had with this forum guys, there is nothing to worry of, the capacitor are shielded with plastic, and be aware of touching its tips. the fan has a socket and you can remove it then clean it with a tissue and using oil in the middle part of it, called its router, you should remove its label, under that, there is a plastic cap. you should remove it and pour just one drop of oil in it. that simple...
but be careful.  Warning Opening a PSU can be life threatening if you touch or bump a capacitor.
It is not recommended to do if you dont care so since it could easily kill you.
Last edited by mmkarimi; 07 Jan 2013 at 05:44 PM..
Reason: added warning
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07 Jan 2013
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#13 | | Windows 7, 64 bit Home SP1, Win 8 Pro 64 bit Citrus Co, FL |
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In the Air Force, with high powered comm transmitters such as the old BC610, we used a grounding "stick" - a metal probe with a wooden handle and a ground clip from the metal probe that was clipped to ground on the transmitter. We would ground the plate cap (HV) on the transmitter tube or other areas before we would do anything inside the transmitter. In my own Ham equipment, I only used a jumper to ground things when working on it. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number My Own Build OS Windows 7, 64 bit Home SP1, Win 8 Pro 64 bit CPU Intel i7 3770 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H Memory 16GB GSkill Ripsaw F3-14900CL9Q-16GBXL Graphics Card Sapphire HD7770 Sound Card RealTek Monitor(s) Displays Viewsonic VA2448 Series 24" LED Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Kensington wired Mouse Logitech Wireless PSU Antec High Current Gamer HCG-620M Modular Case Coolermaster HAF XM Cooling Corsair H80 Liquid cooling with aftermarket Nexus quiet fans Hard Drives 240GB Intel 520 SSD for Win 7
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07 Jan 2013
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#14 | | Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit At home. |

Quote: Originally Posted by Bungee18 ...I'll just get a good, high flow, quiet fan (or the quietest I can lay my hands on), and have a tech replace it so I don't fry myself.
Thanks again. I'm thinking if you can find a tech willing to make the mod (I suspect most reputable ones will try to talk you out of it), it will wind up costing you more than the PSU itself. PITA and seemingly expensive though it may be, you would be better off replacing it with a higher quality PSU that is already quieter. Also, a somewhat larger one will run cooler, allowing the fan to run slower.
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#15 | | Win 7 Pro 64-bit 7601 Italy |
If you are very very determined to do it yourself and don't care about risking your own life to change a noisy fan, use heavy-duty rubberized gloves AND rubber boots. The most important thing to keep in mind is that you have to avoid at all costs to use your body to make a circuit that allows the current from a capacitor to move through your chest (heart) to go either to the ground or to return into the PSU (on another component/contact).
In case of a discharge it will hurt a lot, but won't kill as it won't get through the heart. Current goes by the lower-resistance route, it isn't an evil monster with a life of its own. Say you touch the device with a bare arm but with boots on, only that arm gets electrocuted (a small patch of skin actually).
But screwing up royally and ending up sitting on the floor with the open PSU falling on you with all capacitors crackling with evil sparks remains a risk. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number custom built OS Win 7 Pro 64-bit 7601 CPU AMD Phenom 9650 QuadCore, revision DR-B3 Motherboard ASUS M4A78 Memory 4,00 GB Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Fujitsu Siemens P19-3P Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024 x 32 bits @ 60 Hz Oh yeah, 4:3 rocks! Keyboard Microsoft, whatever. Mouse Optical, logitec. PSU whatever, around 450w Case Scavenged from old company PC, 10+ years old Cooling CPU fan, GPU fan, case fan, nothing fancy Hard Drives (1) MAXTOR S TM3320613AS SATA Disk Device (2) STM35004 18AS SATA Disk Device (3) TOSHIBA USB 2.5"-HDD Internet Speed effective max speeds: 70-ish kB/s down 30-ish kB/s up Antivirus Avira, free endition. Browser Firefox with FXChrome to make it look like Google Chrome Other Info Was discarded by previous owner due to "horrible performance".
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07 Jan 2013
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#16 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 Mt. Crumpit/Whoville |

Quote: Originally Posted by mmkarimi Pauly are you kidding, discharging with a wire, as an electronic engineer, there is no such discharging method ever heard, discharging a HV capacitor need an electronic circuit with a resistor so the energy inside the capacitor would change into heat in a period of time. in physics we have a theory that energy wont disappear in the space, and it would just change from one form to another. like from electricity into heat or mechanical energy. Bungee, if you want to clean your psu, as previous discussion i had with this forum guys, there is nothing to worry of, the capacitor are shielded with plastic, and be aware of touching its tips. the fan has a socket and you can remove it then clean it with a tissue and using oil in the middle part of it, called its router, you should remove its label, under that, there is a plastic cap. you should remove it and pour just one drop of oil in it. that simple...
but be careful. WARNING Dangerous info here!! | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built Desktop By DataTech OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 CPU Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB G.Skill Sniper 2133MHz 4x4GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Onboard Realtek 5-1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Old, beat-up Dell USB From 10 yrs Ago Mouse Gigabyte m6900 wired PSU Corsair HX650W Case Inwin Dragon Rider Cooling Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB for OS, 750GB Seagate MomentusXT for data, 500GB Seagate Constellation for storage Internet Speed 8-19 Mbs down, 3-4 Mbs up Comcast Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE 9, Opera when needed Other Info 4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power generator with flux capacitor, 1.21 gigawatts. |
07 Jan 2013
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#17 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Boston |
IS it just dangerous because its dangerous or you have any reason behind?
have you ever open any (just one) psu?
they shield the capacitors so if you don't intentionally touch those tips you wouldn't touch them.  Warning i leave this post to you guys
its much better to go and get a new one MMKARIMI | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU core i7. |
07 Jan 2013
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#18 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 Mt. Crumpit/Whoville |
mmkarimi I'm not going to be pulled into your fantasy world. Try googling the subject. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built Desktop By DataTech OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 CPU Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB G.Skill Sniper 2133MHz 4x4GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Onboard Realtek 5-1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Old, beat-up Dell USB From 10 yrs Ago Mouse Gigabyte m6900 wired PSU Corsair HX650W Case Inwin Dragon Rider Cooling Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB for OS, 750GB Seagate MomentusXT for data, 500GB Seagate Constellation for storage Internet Speed 8-19 Mbs down, 3-4 Mbs up Comcast Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE 9, Opera when needed Other Info 4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power generator with flux capacitor, 1.21 gigawatts. |
07 Jan 2013
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#19 | | Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1 Kentucky |
I've seen the warning "Do Not Open" on quite a few power supplies.......ever wondered why they have to put those warnings on there? Like the coffee cups from McDonald's that have "Caution: Hot" on them.
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07 Jan 2013
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#20 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Buenos Aires, Argentina |
Thank you for your help guys.
I will definitely not open it my self, neither I am going to get a new one. 750W is more than enough for my system and NZXT's PSUs are good enough (at least that's what they say at jonnyguru.com, best PSU reviews around).
I did some research on the fan the PSU comes equipped with, and these ADDA fans are pretty standard for PSUs, even for higher end ones, another reason for not going for a new, more expensive one.
A certified tech will do the modd for around 50 bucks, the new fan will be 20 bucks at the most. A new good quality 1000W PSU would be around 230 (Argentina pricing).
That settles it for me.
Thanks again for all your help and advice.
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