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Windows 7 - Overclocking - Does it matter about graphics |
04-13-2010
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#1 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 RTM + SP1 |
Overclocking - Does it matter about graphics Hey peeps,
I am building a 'fun' pc for my next project. By 'fun' i mean it for browsing, oc'ing, customising and playing videos/movies but not games.
Now i was looking at graphics cards and thought to myself, does it really matter what graphics i use, even though i only want to oc the CPU?
Thanks
Lucky
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number The HAFmeister (Custom) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 RTM + SP1 CPU Intel Core i7 950 3.06GHZ (OC'd to 3.99Ghz) Motherboard Asus Rampage III Extreme x58 SATA 6GB & USB 3.0 Memory 6GB OCZ Reaper HPC Edition PC3-16000 (set 1606Mhz 8-8-8-26) Graphics Card EVGA Nvidia Geforce GTX 570 Sound Card Creative SB X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional Series Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SM2433BW 24" Widescreen Monitor Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech G9 Gaming Mouse PSU Thermaltake Toughpower 1200w (Modular) Case CoolerMaster HAF-932 Cooling Zalman Reserator XT and ZM-WB5 Plus - GPU uses Stock coolers Hard Drives Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB 32Mb Buffer SATA II
Western Digital Caviar Black 750GB 32Mb Buffer SATA II
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 16Mb Buffer SATA II
Western Digital My Book Essential Edition 750GB USB
Samsung Spinpoint 2TB SATA II Internet Speed 3MB Profile - 350-400kbs (Real-Speed) Other Info IcyBox Hot-Swap Bay,
Logitech G27 Steering Wheel,
Xbox 360 Wirless Elite Controller with Microsoft Reciever and
Play & Charge Kit,
Belkin USB Wireless Adaptor,
GAME Generic Controller (Playstation Looky-Likey),
Epson SX125 All-in-One. |
04-13-2010
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#2 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by Luckystar Hey peeps,
I am building a 'fun' pc for my next project. By 'fun' i mean it for browsing, oc'ing, customising and playing videos/movies but not games.
Now i was looking at graphics cards and thought to myself, does it really matter what graphics i use, even though i only want to oc the CPU?
Thanks
Lucky Mainly for games, video editing, graphic design/CAD, and using as an HTPC to stream HD to multiple extenders. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 CPU i5-750 Motherboard Asus Memory 4GB DDR3 1600 Graphics Card GT220 |
04-13-2010
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#3 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by Luckystar Hey peeps,
I am building a 'fun' pc for my next project. By 'fun' i mean it for browsing, oc'ing, customising and playing videos/movies but not games.
Now i was looking at graphics cards and thought to myself, does it really matter what graphics i use, even though i only want to oc the CPU?
Thanks
Lucky .
It's early in the game, but web browsers are eventually going to take advantage of 3D hardware acceleration. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 x64 CPU Athlon ii x4 620 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2P Memory 4 GB Graphics Card Geforce 9600 512meg Sound Card Xonar DS Hard Drives Hitachi Deskstar 1 tb |
04-13-2010
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#4 | | Win 7 Pro x64/Win Server 2008 R2 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Luckystar Hey peeps,
I am building a 'fun' pc for my next project. By 'fun' i mean it for browsing, oc'ing, customising and playing videos/movies but not games.
Now i was looking at graphics cards and thought to myself, does it really matter what graphics i use, even though i only want to oc the CPU?
Thanks
Lucky Buy the best graphics card you can afford. That way, its' useful life is longer as the graphics applications that use it improve in quality. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Mellon Labs OS Win 7 Pro x64/Win Server 2008 R2 CPU Phenom II X4 955 BE @ 3400 Motherboard ASUS M4A79XTD EVO Memory 8 GB Mushkin Blackline DDR3-12800 @ 1600 7-7-7-20 Graphics Card 2 x Sapphire Radeon 1GB 4670 - Crossfire Sound Card VIA HD Audio on MB. Sounds great. Monitor(s) Displays Acer 23" HDMI Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech G15 Mouse MS Comfort 3000 optical PSU OCZ Stealthstream 600 Case Antec 200 Cooling Coolermaster V8 w/AS 5, too many fans. Hard Drives 1 x WD Silicon Edge 64GB SSD
1 x WD 160GB SATA
1 x WD 500GB SATA Internet Speed Fast enough, kinda, but I'm in Canada. Waaay overpriced. :( Other Info A Mellon Labs X-1 - LCD Smartie driven system status display.
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04-13-2010
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I'd suggest just getting a $100 9600 GT. Not only will it play almost any game out today, but it'll allow you to stream videos and all that. You could go with an 8000 series if you wanted to save money or even a nice motherboard with a good oboard video card. Of course the equivalent in ATI will work as well.
Example of Mothboard w/ decent integrated gfx: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813141015 | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Apple Macbook Pro (April 2009) OS W7 Ult. x64 | OS X CPU Intel Mobile Core 2 Duo 2.93Ghz [T9800 Penryn] Motherboard NVIDIA nForce 730i Rev. B1 [Mac-F2268EC8 (U2E1)] Memory 4096MB Samsung DDR3 Dual Channel [PC3-8500F 1066Mhz] Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT 512MB [G96M Rev. C1] Sound Card SB X-Fi Surround 5.1 USB | Onboard Realtek (Disabled) Monitor(s) Displays Acer x223wbd 22" | Apple Anti-Glare 17" (Disabled) Screen Resolution {Current} 1440x900 {Acer} 1680x1050 {Apple} 1920x1200 Keyboard Logitech G-15v2 [PN 920-000379] Mouse Logitech G-9 [PN 910-000338] PSU Magsafe Case Aluminum/Unibody (MBP52) Cooling 2 x 6000 RPM Fans Hard Drives {Internal}
Seagate Momentus 320GB 2.5" 7200RPM [ST9320421AS]
{Externals}
LaCie 320GB USB 2.0 HDD [301284UR]
LaCie 750GB USB 2.0 FW400 eSATA HDD [301314U]
LaCie 1TB USB 2.0 HDD [301304UR] Internet Speed 12Mbps/2.5Mbps w/ 24Mbps Speed Boost [Comcast] Other Info Logitech X-540 Speakers [PN 970223-0122]
Sennheiser PC-151 Headset |
04-14-2010
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 RTM + SP1 |
Mistaken origianl post I think you have all mistaken my post, but then it may just be a 'blonde' question.
Let me re-phrase my question, I want to overclock this new PC, It will have a C2D E8400 (I was told the best one for OC'ing). 4 GB of OCZ Reaper HPC and will be nestled on a ASUS P5E Deluxe.
When i was looking at graphics, i was thinking of a HD4770 or a HD4830. But what i am asking is will either of those cards cause any types of bootlenecks or limitations when OC'ing the CPU and RAM.
Here is a run down of what the PC will be used for:
There is no gaming involved for this PC, I already have one, read my system specs below. This new build is purely for 'fun'; browsing (Seven Forums, Facebook, Email and general research); OC'ing CPU and RAM (Graphics OC'ing can wait for now (To learn the basics and to get the hang of it all)); watching films and videos (If i want to watch in the front room on the big telly then i will connect the PC to the TV by wired means, as the case is only a little standard ATX case). This means there is no need for X-Fire (Until the cards above come right down in price) | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number The HAFmeister (Custom) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 RTM + SP1 CPU Intel Core i7 950 3.06GHZ (OC'd to 3.99Ghz) Motherboard Asus Rampage III Extreme x58 SATA 6GB & USB 3.0 Memory 6GB OCZ Reaper HPC Edition PC3-16000 (set 1606Mhz 8-8-8-26) Graphics Card EVGA Nvidia Geforce GTX 570 Sound Card Creative SB X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional Series Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SM2433BW 24" Widescreen Monitor Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech G9 Gaming Mouse PSU Thermaltake Toughpower 1200w (Modular) Case CoolerMaster HAF-932 Cooling Zalman Reserator XT and ZM-WB5 Plus - GPU uses Stock coolers Hard Drives Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB 32Mb Buffer SATA II
Western Digital Caviar Black 750GB 32Mb Buffer SATA II
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 16Mb Buffer SATA II
Western Digital My Book Essential Edition 750GB USB
Samsung Spinpoint 2TB SATA II Internet Speed 3MB Profile - 350-400kbs (Real-Speed) Other Info IcyBox Hot-Swap Bay,
Logitech G27 Steering Wheel,
Xbox 360 Wirless Elite Controller with Microsoft Reciever and
Play & Charge Kit,
Belkin USB Wireless Adaptor,
GAME Generic Controller (Playstation Looky-Likey),
Epson SX125 All-in-One. |
04-14-2010
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 RTM + SP1 |

Quote: Originally Posted by notsograymatter I'd suggest just getting a $100 9600 GT. Not only will it play almost any game out today, but it'll allow you to stream videos and all that. You could go with an 8000 series if you wanted to save money or even a nice motherboard with a good oboard video card. Of course the equivalent in ATI will work as well.
Example of Mothboard w/ decent integrated gfx: Newegg.com - XFX MI93007 AS9 LGA 775 NVIDIA GeForce 9300 HDMI Micro ATX Intel Motherboard You are on the right lines of what i am thinking, but i am going with an ASUS board. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number The HAFmeister (Custom) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 RTM + SP1 CPU Intel Core i7 950 3.06GHZ (OC'd to 3.99Ghz) Motherboard Asus Rampage III Extreme x58 SATA 6GB & USB 3.0 Memory 6GB OCZ Reaper HPC Edition PC3-16000 (set 1606Mhz 8-8-8-26) Graphics Card EVGA Nvidia Geforce GTX 570 Sound Card Creative SB X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional Series Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SM2433BW 24" Widescreen Monitor Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech G9 Gaming Mouse PSU Thermaltake Toughpower 1200w (Modular) Case CoolerMaster HAF-932 Cooling Zalman Reserator XT and ZM-WB5 Plus - GPU uses Stock coolers Hard Drives Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB 32Mb Buffer SATA II
Western Digital Caviar Black 750GB 32Mb Buffer SATA II
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 16Mb Buffer SATA II
Western Digital My Book Essential Edition 750GB USB
Samsung Spinpoint 2TB SATA II Internet Speed 3MB Profile - 350-400kbs (Real-Speed) Other Info IcyBox Hot-Swap Bay,
Logitech G27 Steering Wheel,
Xbox 360 Wirless Elite Controller with Microsoft Reciever and
Play & Charge Kit,
Belkin USB Wireless Adaptor,
GAME Generic Controller (Playstation Looky-Likey),
Epson SX125 All-in-One. |
04-14-2010
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#8 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by Luckystar I think you have all mistaken my post, but then it may just be a 'blonde' question.
Let me re-phrase my question, I want to overclock this new PC, It will have a C2D E8400 (I was told the best one for OC'ing). 4 GB of OCZ Reaper HPC and will be nestled on a ASUS P5E Deluxe.
When i was looking at graphics, i was thinking of a HD4770 or a HD4830. But what i am asking is will either of those cards cause any types of bootlenecks or limitations when OC'ing the CPU and RAM.
Here is a run down of what the PC will be used for:
There is no gaming involved for this PC, I already have one, read my system specs below. This new build is purely for 'fun'; browsing (Seven Forums, Facebook, Email and general research); OC'ing CPU and RAM (Graphics OC'ing can wait for now (To learn the basics and to get the hang of it all)); watching films and videos (If i want to watch in the front room on the big telly then i will connect the PC to the TV by wired means, as the case is only a little standard ATX case). This means there is no need for X-Fire (Until the cards above come right down in price) Actually the E8600 is the best dual core for overclocking but the E8400 is a close second. It won't help with watching movies but there are many other tasks that will occur just a bit faster if your processer is running at 4.0GHz compaired to 3.0GHz. Not a big difference unless you are gaming and if it's not completely stable you will end up hurting performance and crashes will also occur.
As for overclocking memory, it's highly over rated for any real world type of performance increase and pretty much isn't worth the effort. If you want faster memory just buy the faster type of memory and be sure and use the proper divider for the FSB being used. Fast DDR2 memory would be PC2 9600 like I'm running at 1200MHz, very stable and fast. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built OS Windows 7 RTM X64 CPU Q9650-4.275GHz, E8600 4.5GHz, E6750-3.8GHz Motherboard Evga 780i FTW Memory G.Skill PC2 9600 1200Mhz 5 5 5 15 2T Graphics Card GTX480 Sound Card Asus Xonar D2 Monitor(s) Displays HannsG Screen Resolution 1680X1050 Keyboard Logitech G15 Mouse Logitech G9 PSU ThermalTake Toughpower 1000Watt modular Case ThermalTake XaserV Cooling Xigmatek S1283 Hard Drives GSkill Phoenix Pro 120GB SSD Internet Speed T1 |
04-14-2010
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If no gaming, then get the cheapest HDCP compliant card you can get. Being concerned about bottlenecks [cpu or gpu] is when you are gaming and are looking for the highest fps.
Look at this: http://www.sevenforums.com/chillout-...tem-build.html
No bleeding edge videocard here either... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Rig 1 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition @ 3.4GHz (AM2+) Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA790X-UD4P (AM2+) Memory Corsair CM2X4096-8500C5 (4 X 2GB) Graphics Card XFX Radeon HD 5770 / Diamond Radeon HD 5770 CrossFireX Sound Card Asus Xonar DS (PCI) Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 932bw+ (3) Screen Resolution 4320x900 Keyboard Logitech Desktop Wave Mouse Logitech LX8 Laser PSU Corsair CMPSU-750TX Case Cooler Master HAF 932 Cooling Corsair Hydro Series H50 Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 2 80 GB - Windows 7 System --
WD Caviar Black 1TB - Music, Movies, Vids, Pics --
WD Caviar Black 640GB - User Profiles & Games --
WD My Book 320GB external Internet Speed 20 down / 2 up Other Info LG GGC-H20L Blu-Ray / HDDVD combo --
Hauppauge HVR-1250 --
Silverstone MFP-51 --
Logitech Webcam C600 |
04-15-2010
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#10 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 RTM + SP1 |
Quote: Actually the E8600 is the best dual core for overclocking but the E8400 is a close second. It won't help with watching movies but there are many other tasks that will occur just a bit faster if your processer is running at 4.0GHz compaired to 3.0GHz. Not a big difference unless you are gaming and if it's not completely stable you will end up hurting performance and crashes will also occur.
As for overclocking memory, it's highly over rated for any real world type of performance increase and pretty much isn't worth the effort. If you want faster memory just buy the faster type of memory and be sure and use the proper divider for the FSB being used. Fast DDR2 memory would be PC2 9600 like I'm running at 1200MHz, very stable and fast. 
Quote: Originally Posted by mpcrsc562 If no gaming, then get the cheapest HDCP compliant card you can get. Being concerned about bottlenecks [cpu or gpu] is when you are gaming and are looking for the highest fps.
Look at this: http://www.sevenforums.com/chillout-...tem-build.html
No bleeding edge videocard here either... Thanks guys for your help, you have now sorted my issue.
mpcrsc562, I will just get the HD4830 in that case. I was not sure about bottlenecking and whether it was an issue as i have only built two systems so far, one below and one for my mum and both are used for gaming (Yes my mum is a silver-surfer and a gamer, even if it is only basic games).
One thing though, Chevy64, You say a Dual Core would be no good for Movies. Could you please explain as to why?
I will only be using for downloaded films from Itunes and playing DVD's, don't own any HD films as yet.
Lucky | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number The HAFmeister (Custom) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 RTM + SP1 CPU Intel Core i7 950 3.06GHZ (OC'd to 3.99Ghz) Motherboard Asus Rampage III Extreme x58 SATA 6GB & USB 3.0 Memory 6GB OCZ Reaper HPC Edition PC3-16000 (set 1606Mhz 8-8-8-26) Graphics Card EVGA Nvidia Geforce GTX 570 Sound Card Creative SB X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional Series Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SM2433BW 24" Widescreen Monitor Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech G9 Gaming Mouse PSU Thermaltake Toughpower 1200w (Modular) Case CoolerMaster HAF-932 Cooling Zalman Reserator XT and ZM-WB5 Plus - GPU uses Stock coolers Hard Drives Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB 32Mb Buffer SATA II
Western Digital Caviar Black 750GB 32Mb Buffer SATA II
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 16Mb Buffer SATA II
Western Digital My Book Essential Edition 750GB USB
Samsung Spinpoint 2TB SATA II Internet Speed 3MB Profile - 350-400kbs (Real-Speed) Other Info IcyBox Hot-Swap Bay,
Logitech G27 Steering Wheel,
Xbox 360 Wirless Elite Controller with Microsoft Reciever and
Play & Charge Kit,
Belkin USB Wireless Adaptor,
GAME Generic Controller (Playstation Looky-Likey),
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