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17 Jul 2010
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#21 | | Windows 7 Professional 64-Bit |
I can't stop laughing to this cause it's so true but I always tell myself enough is enough because I have a family and it works out all the time. I just set my initial goal and if I cannot hit in two tries, I use my two seconds tries to get it 100% stable with a lower overclock. This way I save a lot time, there's less bitching in the house and a lot less second hand smoke being inhaled. | My System Specs |
| OS Windows 7 Professional 64-Bit CPU Intel i5-2520M Memory Corsair 8GB DDR3-1600 Graphics Card AMD HD-6850M Sound Card Realtek Dolby Advanced HD Screen Resolution 1600x900 Mouse Logitech M510 | Logitech G400 Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB | Hitachi Travelstar 750GB Internet Speed 35 Mbps |
18 Jul 2010
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#22 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 I frequently find that overclocking to many becomes an obsession and eventually you spend all of your time testing, tweaking and upgrading components...but then spend no real time actually making your computer productive. True 
Quote: Originally Posted by Nemix77 I just set my initial goal and if I cannot hit in two tries, I use my two seconds tries to get it 100% stable with a lower overclock. Yep - that's why I've stuck to 4.0ghz. I can get more, but the thought of all the time involved in tweaking and testing - meh | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number SmartEyeball Inc OS 8 Pro x64 CPU i7 3770K 4.6GHz Motherboard ASUS P8Z77 WS Memory 16GB G.Skill Trident X 2400mhz Graphics Card 3x Gigabyte GTX 670 OC WindForce *TRI SLI* Sound Card ALC898 / 5.1 receiver/ ATH-AD900 Headphones Monitor(s) Displays x3 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung / "40 Sony Screen Resolution 5760*1200/ 1920*1200 / 1920*1080 Keyboard Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine MX Black // Filco Ninja TKL Mouse Razer Imperator + Thermaltake Theron PSU Corsair AX1200W Case Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow Edition Cooling Noctua NH-D14 Hard Drives 2x Intel 520 240GB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0) * 2TB WD Caviar Black Antivirus MSE Browser IE, FF Other Info GT Extreme V2 Sim Racing Cockpit + 40" LCD and K/B Mouse stand ▼
Fanatec CSR Elite Wheel + Clubsport Pedals + CSR shifter/7GS ▼
Buttkicker v2 Seat Rumbler with Dedicated 5.1 and Sub Woofer attached to frame ▼
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18 Jul 2010
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#23 | | Win 7 Pro x64/Win Server 2008 R2 Canada |

Quote: Originally Posted by smarteyeball Done properly (ie keeping within manufacturers 'max safe' VID and temp ranges) - Overclocking is not the big bad hardware killing boogey man.
Obviously Overclocking has the potential to shorten some components lifespans, depending on how far it's pushed, build quality etc - but reading, researching and double-checking goes a long way in potentially alleviating most 'expensive mistakes'.
As to whether or not you need to is entirely an individual choice.
Right hardware + research/knowledge = is worth the performance gains.
Going in balls deep without researching first = Not worth it. Same applies for simple 'bragging rights'. I certainly can't disagree with your points, but I do believe that it isn't always worth it. There are good and bad reasons to overclock, because in some cases, the real world performance gain is small, and the potential for an expensive mistake is always there.
OCing should really only be tried if you know your hardware well, and do your research beforehand. With today's speeds on CPUs, most humans probably wouldn't notice the speed improvement. My stock speed is 3.2 GHz, and I OC to 3.8. It's a Black Edition Phenom, and I bought it for that reason, so why not? I can also afford to replace it, and I know when to stop.
The reason that I try to discourage wanna-be OC'ers isn't that I want to keep them from doing it. I just want them to read what I say, and maybe think "Okay, maybe it isn't so easy. I'd better read up on this." I want them to do it carefully.
I've been doing electronics for over 25 years, and IMHO, I pretty much know what you can and can't do with electronic equipment. There's nothing wrong with OCing, if you do it carefully. I hang out on an OC forum, and almost everyday there's a post from someone who has flamed out his CPU, or MOSFETS, or some other critical component. I hate to see that happen, because almost everyone there says "Take it slow and easy.", including me.
I don't want to discourage people, I want to encourage them to do it right. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Mellon Labs OS Win 7 Pro x64/Win Server 2008 R2 CPU Phenom II X4 955 BE @ 3400 Motherboard ASUS M4A79XTD EVO Memory 8 GB Mushkin Blackline DDR3-12800 @ 1600 7-7-7-20 Graphics Card 2 x Sapphire Radeon 1GB 4670 - Crossfire Sound Card VIA HD Audio on MB. Sounds great. Monitor(s) Displays Acer 23" HDMI Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech G15 Mouse MS Comfort 3000 optical PSU OCZ Stealthstream 600 Case Antec 200 Cooling Coolermaster V8 w/AS 5, too many fans. Hard Drives 1 x WD Silicon Edge 64GB SSD
1 x WD 160GB SATA
1 x WD 500GB SATA Internet Speed Fast enough, kinda, but I'm in Canada. Waaay overpriced. :( Other Info A Mellon Labs X-1 - LCD Smartie driven system status display.
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18 Jul 2010
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#24 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Hampton VA |

Quote: Originally Posted by smarteyeball Yep - that's why I've stuck to 4.0ghz. I can get more, but the thought of all the time involved in tweaking and testing - meh  I must be lazy as I think I'm the only one who hasn't gone 4+ gig with my 930
Between the CPU cooler & trying to keeping temps reasonable on load, I'll say at my paltry 3.3 (3.5 turbo mode) overclock and like it.... for now At any rate, yeah, overclocking takes a lot of understanding, patience, and trial & error, most importantly understanding, especially when you start messing with voltages & BIOS settings. You should view over-clocking as a hobby, just as you would in Hot Roding cars. And like all hobbies, they’re not always for everyone | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by me OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-950 (3.06GHz) OC to 3.8GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 rev 1, F6 Bios Memory 12 gig Corsair DDR3 Dominator GT Memory (3X 4GB) Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD6950 2gig (Sapphire) Sound Card X-Fi Titanium Fatality Pro Monitor(s) Displays HP ZR22w 22" LCD Monitor Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech Wireless Wave Mouse Logitech Performance MX PSU Antec Signature - SG-850 Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Noctua NH-C12P SE14 Hard Drives Primary - OCZ Vertex 4 SSD (256GB). Storage - OCZ Vertex 2 SSD (120GB) & 2TB WD Caviar Black. Internet Speed High Speed Cable Other Info Memory Timings - 1600MHz @ 8-8-8-20-1T @ 1.640 volts |
18 Jul 2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by Mellon Head I certainly can't disagree with your points, but I do believe that it isn't always worth it. Definitely.
Depending on needs, or limit achieved it isn't always worth it. At a certain level, the performance gain is not discernible. As for needs, just because you can - doesn't mean you should.
Quick example:
I Just rebuilt my old 775 socket + Q9550 that was a 24/7 OC @ 3.8ghz for over a year for my dad.
He certainly doesn't need an OC'ed machine for browsing and word processing etc, so that chip and board is now destined to live out it's existence @ stock speeds, with all the power saving features enabled. Quote: OCing should really only be tried if you know your hardware well, and do your research beforehand. Yep. Quote: With today's speeds on CPUs, most humans probably wouldn't notice the speed improvement. True. Unless you are specifically looking for the improvement, at certain levels most wouldn't notice it. Quote: My stock speed is 3.2 GHz, and I OC to 3.8. It's a Black Edition Phenom, and I bought it for that reason, so why not? I can also afford to replace it, and I know when to stop. Ditto. I can afford to - and am prepared to replace something in the event something does give way, even though I'm still under the 'safe' on air threshold. Quote: The reason that I try to discourage wanna-be OC'ers isn't that I want to keep them from doing it. I just want them to read what I say, and maybe think "Okay, maybe it isn't so easy. I'd better read up on this." I want them to do it carefully. That's a good point. I didn't intend to come across as snarky in my post, but since I was tired I didn't consider that angle and I apologise if that's how it came across Quote: I don't want to discourage people, I want to encourage them to do it right. Again, I couldn't agree more. 
Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21
I must be lazy as I think I'm the only one who hasn't gone 4+ gig with my 930
Between the CPU cooler & trying to keeping temps reasonable on load, I'll say at my paltry 3.3 (3.5 turbo mode) overclock and like it.... for now  Mate, if you are happy with it - that's all that counts Quote: You should view over-clocking as a hobby, just as you would in Hot Roding cars. And like all hobbies, they’re not always for everyone  It certainly can become a hobby - even an obsession. But on the plus side, at least it's cheaper than cars | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number SmartEyeball Inc OS 8 Pro x64 CPU i7 3770K 4.6GHz Motherboard ASUS P8Z77 WS Memory 16GB G.Skill Trident X 2400mhz Graphics Card 3x Gigabyte GTX 670 OC WindForce *TRI SLI* Sound Card ALC898 / 5.1 receiver/ ATH-AD900 Headphones Monitor(s) Displays x3 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung / "40 Sony Screen Resolution 5760*1200/ 1920*1200 / 1920*1080 Keyboard Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine MX Black // Filco Ninja TKL Mouse Razer Imperator + Thermaltake Theron PSU Corsair AX1200W Case Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow Edition Cooling Noctua NH-D14 Hard Drives 2x Intel 520 240GB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0) * 2TB WD Caviar Black Antivirus MSE Browser IE, FF Other Info GT Extreme V2 Sim Racing Cockpit + 40" LCD and K/B Mouse stand ▼
Fanatec CSR Elite Wheel + Clubsport Pedals + CSR shifter/7GS ▼
Buttkicker v2 Seat Rumbler with Dedicated 5.1 and Sub Woofer attached to frame ▼
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18 Jul 2010
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#26 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit sp1 Laguna Hills Southern California |
you can do a soft oc with the tools given with the motherboard or aplication for oc but anything beyond that would be on you i soft oc'ed my 2.8 to 3.22 but in the future i was planing on uping my cpu which right now is running fine a little boost is fine but
boosting all the way to the max is a good way to be out of a rig in a few months most cpu and units have automatic shut off before you destroy it but when you go past the company limits and you damage it your pretty much stuck with what ever you did
dont do anything unless you have done this type of thing before or plain and simple experiment with a old system you dont particulary care for if you fry that you will have a better understanding of what your doing instead of messing up your main rig
someone correct me if im wrong | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by me FX - Series Scorpious OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit sp1 CPU Vishera FX 8350 Oc' 4.812Ghz 1.488 V-core full load 50c Motherboard Asus Sabertooth 990fx rev 2.0 Memory 16gb Corsair Vengeance ram 1600mhz Oc'ed to 1750mhz Graphics Card VisionTek HD7970 Ghz.ed Bios Crossfire 1150/1560 power 10% Sound Card AC97 Monitor(s) Displays 27" ViewSonic 1920/1080dp hdmi 37in vizio hdmi dual monitors Screen Resolution 1920x1080 27"- 1920x1080 37" Keyboard Logitech wireless keyboard Mouse Logitech wireless mouse PSU HX1050w Corsair Silver 80plus certified crosfire/sli Case Thermaltake Element V Cooling Antec 620 Water cooling system and 4 120 mm LED fans Hard Drives Ocz Agility 120Gb SSD Seagate baracuda 500 Gb WD Mybook 500Gb Internet Speed Cable 25+ mb Antivirus WebRoot Spysweeper with Antivirus Browser IE-9, Chrome, Opera Other Info I have 2 systems FX AM3+ 8350-K15 Oc'ed 4.812Ghz AM2+ 965 BE Stock 3.4 Ghz Both stable Both Gaming Rigs Also Hp Notebook 1.65 ghz Dual core amd E-450 8gb Patriot Ram DDR3 Discrete Gpu Hd6320 dedicated ram 1973 mb 15.5 screen |
19 Jul 2010
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#27 | | W7 Ulti/64, XP Pro/32 NYC |

Quote: Originally Posted by flawless Thanks for all of your advice. I was never really sure what over clocking was and I read some where and heard from a friend that it can improve your pc. After reading all of your posts I can see it's not really worth it and it sounds like you don't get much more for the risk you're takeing if you don't know what you are doing. It also sounds like you need to want to learn about overclocking instead of just wanting a quick way to improve your pc because it's a hard and lengthy process. Thanks for all of your help and I think I will keep clear of overclocking for now XD
I will be sure to rep you all tomorrow as I am on my iPhone now =) I disagree, OC done judiciously is well worth it. Why pay $1000 for an i7 965 when you can buy a i7 920 for $260 and OC it up to the 965 and higher. With stock air cooling only.
With the X 58's there is no more FSB, components are meant to be pushed now.
No different than working on a high end V8, you want the most out of it. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY #3, #2 OS W7 Ulti/64, XP Pro/32 CPU INTEL i7 920 DO, Core2 Duo 6400 Motherboard GIGABYTE EX58 UD3R-SLI, EP45-UD3R Memory KINGSTON DDR3 1333MHz, CORSAIR DDR2 800MHz Graphics Card EVGA GTX 260 x2, 8800 GTX Sound Card REALTEK HD onboard, ditto Monitor(s) Displays SONY 40" BRAVIA LCD Screen Resolution 1360 X 768 Keyboard MS Mouse MS PSU COOLERMASTER 900W, ENERMAX 850W Case COOLERMASTER HAF 932 x2 Cooling stock Hard Drives OCZ VERTEX/RAID0 -3, Vertex 30GB Internet Speed ADSL 3MB/768KBs Other Info amateur enthusiast |
19 Jul 2010
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#28 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Hampton VA |
Just to put things in perspective….Overclocking DOES give performance boosts. The real question is is it worth the risk of damaging/destroying your components.
Overclocking done right can gain you a performance boost, overclocking done wrong can destroy/damage your system.
Those who say there’s no performance gains from overclocking are missing the data that shows quite the opposite. Sorry And again, the only question is whether it’s worth the risk of damaging your components, or voiding your warranty.
My two cents . 
Quote: Originally Posted by smarteyeball Quote: You should view over-clocking as a hobby, just as you would in Hot Roding cars. And like all hobbies, they’re not always for everyone  It certainly can become a hobby - even an obsession. But on the plus side, at least it's cheaper than cars  Tell me about it, I gave up on the car hobby years ago due to.... expenses. Ironically it was the money from a restoration project that I chose to forgo and instead used it to buy my first computer. And the funny thing about that is the guy that built my computer gave me some basic overclocking tips; in fact the MB was chosen for that reason
The rest as they say is history | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by me OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-950 (3.06GHz) OC to 3.8GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 rev 1, F6 Bios Memory 12 gig Corsair DDR3 Dominator GT Memory (3X 4GB) Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD6950 2gig (Sapphire) Sound Card X-Fi Titanium Fatality Pro Monitor(s) Displays HP ZR22w 22" LCD Monitor Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech Wireless Wave Mouse Logitech Performance MX PSU Antec Signature - SG-850 Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Noctua NH-C12P SE14 Hard Drives Primary - OCZ Vertex 4 SSD (256GB). Storage - OCZ Vertex 2 SSD (120GB) & 2TB WD Caviar Black. Internet Speed High Speed Cable Other Info Memory Timings - 1600MHz @ 8-8-8-20-1T @ 1.640 volts |
19 Jul 2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21 Those who say there’s no performance gains from overclocking are missing the data that shows quite the opposite. Sorry Those of us who maintain this line of thinking....realize that with Benchmark test results there is certainly an increase. However, quite often in the real world just using the computer tests....these overclocks are often not terribly evident. Sure, if you do raw video editing continuously..you will see it...but I'm talking about the average computer user who might actually not see any difference at all. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/2 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
19 Jul 2010
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#30 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Hampton VA |
Though you have a point, I must say that being tthis is a tech site... we're talking to tech users who want that extra sometin' somethin'
Overclocking is a hobby. We all have them, and not everyone is for everyone
I could argue that the avarage user doesn't need a 64-bit OS with 6+ gig of RAM. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by me OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-950 (3.06GHz) OC to 3.8GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 rev 1, F6 Bios Memory 12 gig Corsair DDR3 Dominator GT Memory (3X 4GB) Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD6950 2gig (Sapphire) Sound Card X-Fi Titanium Fatality Pro Monitor(s) Displays HP ZR22w 22" LCD Monitor Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech Wireless Wave Mouse Logitech Performance MX PSU Antec Signature - SG-850 Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Noctua NH-C12P SE14 Hard Drives Primary - OCZ Vertex 4 SSD (256GB). Storage - OCZ Vertex 2 SSD (120GB) & 2TB WD Caviar Black. Internet Speed High Speed Cable Other Info Memory Timings - 1600MHz @ 8-8-8-20-1T @ 1.640 volts All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:29 PM. | |